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DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« on: April 14, 2009, 11:37:22 AM »
Everyone on this board needs to read this report. The site keeps crashing. Keep trying.

I'll I have to say is...this is scary shit.

What does an "rightwing extremist" look like? Here's the government's definition:

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Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.

Michelle Malkin discusses the report here.

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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2009, 11:44:47 AM »
Just to verify the validity of the PDF file. Here is Fox News article on it.

"The Department of Homeland Security is warning law enforcement agencies that recent news is helping "right-wing extremist groups" recruit new members and could lead to violence, and warns about the possible recruitment and radicalization of returning veterans.

DHS' Office of Intelligence and Analysis issued an intelligence assessment last week that said it has no specific information that domestic right-wing terrorists are currently planning acts of violence, but right-wing extremists may be gaining new recruits by playing on fears about the recession and the election of the first African American president. The office called them "unique drivers for right-wing radicalization and recruitment."

"Right-wing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first African American president, and are focusing their efforts to recruit new members, mobilize existing supporters and broaden their scope and appeal through propaganda, but they have not yet turned to attack planning," the assessment reads.

"The current economic and political climate has some similarities to the 1990s when right-wing extremism experienced a resurgence fueled largely by an economic recession, criticism about the outsourcing of jobs and the perceived threat to U.S. power and sovereignty by other foreign powers.," it continues.

The report also suggests that returning veterans are attractive recruits for right-wing groups looking for "combat skills and experience" so as to boost their "violent capabilities." It adds that new restrictions on gun ownership and the difficulty of veterans to reintegrate into their communities "could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks." FNC


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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2009, 11:54:26 AM »
Holy sh*t.
I can see November 2 from my house!!!

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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2009, 11:56:35 AM »
Similiar events also happened under Clinton........who had the FBI so focused on "militas" and other "right-wing extremists" that he completely overlooked, unfortunately, the extremists of the Islamic persuasion......

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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2009, 11:57:11 AM »
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...Right-wing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first African American president...

That tells us a lot right there.
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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2009, 12:04:19 PM »
Read "hate" as being any disagreement with lord O. :censored:

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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2009, 12:17:16 PM »
The DHS claims to have released a report on left wing extremist groups in January.  I searched for a little while and all that came up were references to the DHS saying they had released the report, nothing about the report itself, strange.

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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2009, 12:20:31 PM »
The DHS claims to have released a report on left wing extremist groups in January.  I searched for a little while and all that came up were references to the DHS saying they had released the report, nothing about the report itself, strange.

Michelle points out that there is a report on specific leftwing terrorist organizations like ELF but it doesn't paint a broad brush like this current report does on all conservative-leaning individuals.
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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2009, 12:26:07 PM »
Michelle points out that there is a report on specific leftwing terrorist organizations like ELF but it doesn't paint a broad brush like this current report does on all conservative-leaning individuals.

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"Proposed imposition of firearms restrictions and weapons bans likely would attract new members into the ranks of right-wing extremist groups ... The high volume of purchases and stockpiling of weapons and ammunition by right-wing extremists in anticipation of restrictions and bans in some parts of the country continue to be a primary concern to law enforcement," the report says.


The part in bold is worrisome, because it is a flat out lie meant to scare people into supporting more gun grabbing laws. Extremist groups already had their stockpiles of weapons and ammunition.  It's been the regular gun owners and their fear of liberals making gun/ammunition ownership more difficult.

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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2009, 12:35:16 PM »
^ditto. Our local news channels all ran stories about the guns/ammo industry being "up" *eyeroll* in the current economy/0bowma admin.
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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2009, 12:48:01 PM »
To the B. Hussein cult members, anyone who disagrees with him are RW extremists.  The B. Hussein administration would have considered the founding fathers to be RW extremists.  I just don't see the common people falling for this, and if they do then it's too late anyway, this country will have a short shelf life.

It doesn't surprise me that B. Hussein and his followers view USA citizens which disagree with them in this way, but that they come out and admit it is pretty unprecidented.

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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2009, 01:07:31 PM »
I'm thinking about making a new sign for the tea party tomorrow: "Just your friendly neighborhood rightwing extremist".

I'm so angry over this.
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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2009, 01:17:12 PM »
NOC.Fusion@dhs.gov

(U//FOUO) Unlike the earlier period, the advent of the Internet and other informationage
technologies since the 1990s has given domestic extremists greater access to
information related to bomb-making, weapons training, and tactics, as well as targeting of
individuals, organizations, and facilities, potentially making extremist individuals and
groups more dangerous and the consequences of their violence more severe. New
technologies also permit domestic extremists to send and receive encrypted
communications and to network with other extremists throughout the country and abroad,
making it much more difficult for law enforcement to deter, prevent, or preempt a violent
extremist attack. Could this pertain to the bll that would 0Bama control of the internet?

(U//FOUO) Rightwing extremist views bemoan the decline of U.S. stature and
have recently focused on themes such as the loss of U.S. manufacturing capability
to China and India, Russia’s control of energy resources and use of these to
pressure other countries, and China’s investment in U.S. real estate and
corporations as a part of subversion strategy.'scuse me, a lot of union members are the ones complaining about job losses.


(U//FOUO) Rightwing extremists were concerned during the 1990s with the perception
that illegal immigrants were taking away American jobs through their willingness to
work at significantly lower wages. They also opposed free trade agreements, arguing that
these arrangements resulted in Americans losing jobs to countries such as Mexico.WTF? Again these are the unions doing the complaining about free trade.

* (U) Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and
adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups),
and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. So all the states wanting to reassert their rights under the 10th amendment are now terrorist organizations?
It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a
single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration. Most Christian and Catholic Churches are now Terrorists organizations and shall be outlawed?


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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2009, 01:32:10 PM »
Note to self:  Buy more ammo.
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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2009, 01:32:43 PM »
It's time for us Conservatives and those of us who actually BELIEVE in the Constitution to take a stand against this reverse racism. That statement made by the DHS is obvious in it's sentiment. I could give a FRAK about BrObama's color, it's his politics that concern me. These people just can't get their heads around this sentiment that many of us "white folks" have.
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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2009, 01:37:16 PM »
This is the mindset of the Obama administration - to squash ANY political dissent. What they said about returning combat vets in those "liberty papers" was absolutely disgusting. I'm also a little concerned about April 19, that date has a "history" in this country, millions of Americans voted against that Kenyan national for president, they aren't going to be able to get rid of us all.

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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2009, 01:41:27 PM »
This is the mindset of the Obama administration - to squash ANY political dissent. What they said about returning combat vets in those "liberty papers" was absolutely disgusting. I'm also a little concerned about April 19, that date has a "history" in this country, millions of Americans voted against that Kenyan national for president, they aren't going to be able to get rid of us all.

Good point about the timing of April 19th and release of this document.  How better to get backing for some of this administrations controversial desires than to have this come out and then an attack happen on April 19th.  A date known to hold significance with right wing extremists.  Or am I being paranoid and giving 0Bama and his thugs to much credit for planning something like that? :tinfoil: ?

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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2009, 02:33:08 PM »
Good point about the timing of April 19th and release of this document.  How better to get backing for some of this administrations controversial desires than to have this come out and then an attack happen on April 19th.  A date known to hold significance with right wing extremists.  Or am I being paranoid and giving 0Bama and his thugs to much credit for planning something like that? :tinfoil: ?

I wouldn't put ANYTHING past the Big Zero's administration to construct some scheme that would give them MORE control. A terrorist attack by the so-called "Right Winged Extremists" would play nicely into their plans of gun control/confiscation. Has anybody noticed that gun crime over the last couple of weeks has escalated?? One has to wonder why.......
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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2009, 03:27:59 PM »
Good point about the timing of April 19th and release of this document.  How better to get backing for some of this administrations controversial desires than to have this come out and then an attack happen on April 19th.  A date known to hold significance with right wing extremists.  Or am I being paranoid and giving 0Bama and his thugs to much credit for planning something like that? :tinfoil: ?

worse yet, there would be no way we could say "inside job" without sounding like those idiot troofers.  We'd end up having to roll over and play dead as they pointed the finger at us.

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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2009, 04:04:13 PM »
So one can only dissent during a Republican administration?  :redbird:

They're afraid of the Tea Party tomorrow...****ing wussies....

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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2009, 04:57:30 PM »
So one can only dissent during a Republican administration?  :redbird:

They're afraid of the Tea Party tomorrow...******* wussies....
How much ya wanna bet the infiltrators will bring in racist signs to get photographed and define dissent as racist.

What we are seeing people is the criminalization of politics. In the end, the only reasonable people will be democrats, and GOP types can't get certain jobs because they cannot be trusted.
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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2009, 05:03:56 PM »
What we are seeing people is the criminalization of politics. In the end, the only reasonable people will be democrats, and GOP types can't get certain jobs because they cannot be trusted.
Obama is going to go Hugo on us. This is where we are going.

I have no doubt that it where he'd LIKE us to go....I'm just not sold on the idea that it will happen.  I tend to be an optimist, but I do believe he will be gone in 4 years and his policies reversed.

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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2009, 05:15:25 PM »
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/14/homeland-security-warns-rise-right-wing-extremism/

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But some critics have said the DHS is equating conservative views to right-wing terrorism, but a DHS official countered that earlier this year, the department issued a mirror intelligence assessment of left-wing extremist groups.

"This is the job of DHS, to assess what is happening in this country, with regard to homegrown terrorism, and determine whether it's an actual threat or not, and that's what these assessments do. This is nothing unusual. These assessments are done all the time. This is about awareness," the official told FOX News on Monday.

The assessment, dated Feb. 5 and titled "Left-wing Extremists Likely to Increase Use of Cyberattacks Over the Coming Decade," concentrates largely on the technical savvy of left-wing extremists and not bloodshed.

"The perception that cyberattacks are non-violent aligns well with ideological beliefs, strategic objectives and tactics of many left-wing extremists," the earlier report reads. "The increasing reliance of commercial business and other enterprises on cyber technologies, including interconnected networks and remote access, creates new and expanding vulnerabilities that technically savvy left-wing extremists will exploit."

The report specifically mentions "eco-terrorist" Earth Liberation Front, which has been accused of firebombing construction sites, logging companies, car dealerships and food science labs. The report notes that left-wing extremists prefer economic damage on businesses to get the message across.

"Their no-harm doctrine includes claiming to ensure the safety of humans, animals and the environment even as they attack businesses and associated operations," the report reads. " Direct actions range from animal releases, property theft, vandalism and cyber attacks, all of which extremists regard as non-violent, to bombings and arson."
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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2009, 05:20:15 PM »


And did it say someone who believe is abortion is a left wing extremist??

Yeah they really painted painted those on the left with that big wide brush they used for the right.
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Re: DHS issues report on Rightwing Extremism
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2009, 05:24:22 PM »


And your point is?  Do a search for that left wing report, and you'll only find it mentioned in articles where the DHS is defending this report. OTOH, how many terrorist attacks have been carried out by environmentalists?  Those have not been cyber attacks, no they were attacks on property and businesses. No matter how much the DHS tries to spin this, they are ****ed up for the things they included in this report.  The thing is full of lies and smears to basically allow them to outlaw the GOP based on their threat assessment.