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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on April 12, 2021, 08:40:58 AM
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Star Member Stinky The Clown (62,985 posts)
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It seems to me there should be pressure brought to bear on those who refuse a vaccination
If life were fair, they should suffer the consequences on their own. But life is not fair and all of us can be affected by their moronic refusal. In a fair world, they would be ordered to get it. In our imperfect world, they cannot be.
We can, however, make their decision uncomfortable for them.
How about a few of these consequences:
No in-person school for the children of unvaccinated parents
No admittance to businesses that are open except during special designated times
Make it legal for insurers to charge higher premiums for certain policies based solely on vaccination status
Issue vaccination credentials and prohibit those without them from participation in many activities, including public transportation, airlines, hotels, restaurants, cruise ships, etc., etc.
I'm sure a loooong list can be compiled.
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Maybe you can deport them to resettlement camps in the east...
Star Member DBoon (18,063 posts)
2. I would not do business with any place that did NOT restrict unvaccinated
Why risk my health when a competitor would actually care about the health of their customers?
We don't allow smoking due to the effect of second hand smoke while Covid is contagious and much more immediately lethal.
Stigmatizing behavior dangerous to others is one mechanism society uses to protect its members.
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Maybe you could mark the shops as those who won't comply...
Pobeka (3,302 posts)
5. Health insurers can charge more for smokers now.
The cost of multiple weeks in the hospital is staggering, which will happen to a percentage of those who don't get vaccinated. Refusal to get vaccinated should automatically mean higher health premiums, no matter if private or thru medicare.
I have no desire to go into a restaurant who allows non vaccinated folks (unless they have a real medical waver). Absolutely don't want to be on an airplane with them.
You're right, if they don't want to be vaccinated, they should bear the cost to society for their refusal to do so. The cost of a vaccine resistant mutation arising from this group of risk takers has got to be close to a trillion dollars.
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you could publicly humiliate them into complying with the State's mandates...
Star Member msongs (59,836 posts)
8. and how, exactly, are non-vaxxd people to be identified in public places? nt
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Maybe you can force them to wear a badge on their clothing...
Sympthsical (948 posts)
40. Maybe slow that authoritarian roll there
Yeesh.
Even with vaccines, we should still mask and socially distance.
We've dealt with anti-vaxxers for decades. Now that it's Republicans, we need to re-order society?
People need to get a handle on this nonsense.
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Im sure you can come up with some sort of solution that's final...
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The Nazi-Auschwitz analogy is less than weak because Pfizer and Moderna and J&J vaccines aren't death camps poised to kill 5 or 6 million people.
But Stinker is demanding Hitlerian-Stalinist-Maoist-Castroist-Chavista authoritarian action that intelligent freedom-loving US citizens should reflexively reject.
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so much for "my body, my choice"...
It's this same kind of thinking that will try to get people to accept the mark of the beast in the end times as told in the book of Revelations.
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If your vaccine works the unvaccinated are no threat to you.
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Several threads over there just like this one. I wonder why none of them have brought up the fact that very few black people will be able to get vaccinated. You have to show ID to get the vaccine ...
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KC
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Are they saying gay men can be charged more for insurance now? :fuelfire:
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Several threads over there just like this one. I wonder why none of them have brought up the fact that very few black people will be able to get vaccinated. You have to show ID to get the vaccine ...
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KC
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A cherished narrative-meme is that conservatives are the ones refusing to get vaccinated. It's true of some conservatives, obviously, though far from all. What Proggies don't like to know or be known is that race-baiters, including Farrakhan, have whipped up vaccine-refusal among blacks by calling the vaccines "white vaccines" and invoking 80-100 year-old spectres of the Tuskegee syphilis "experiments". Consequently, vaccine refusal is high among blacks.
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Look, jag off fascist Nazi DUmmy: No one had to pressure me to get vaccinated. Had my first shot and the 2nd is coming next weekend. Last I looked, this is still a free country. And will never pressure people to get vaccinated. I will certainly recommend it if asked.
But I sure as Hades NEVER going to carry my damn vaccination card ANYWHERE ANYTIME! Nor have I or will I submit to contract tracing.
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BTW - the Army allowed us to decline. During the last OpSynch meeting 1/3 had gotten the shot or are scheduled to get it, 1/3 declined (G3 was bitching about the 1/3 that hadn't done either).
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These people (DU) are absolutely obsessed with the vaccine/vaccination. Even if I were to get vaccinated I'm not going to run around telling everyone. My medical records are between me and my doctor. Period.
My wife and I just canceled a cruise were supposed to take at the end of January this year and it got pushed, then pushed again, then canceled completely. The cruise line gave us the option to keep our money with them and get a pretty good deal with some 'onboard' credits and other things, or cancel by May.
We could never get them to tell us if they were going to require vaccination in order to sail, so we are simply getting our refund. Hated to do that, but I would have sailed in January.
Who knows, at some point I may feel comfortable getting the vaccine, now is not the time for me and I won't be forced into a medical decision.
KC
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Those who three decades ago were calling for personal freedom now want to be part of the brown shirt crowd.
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Anybody got a mole that's still alive? Somebody should remind the DUmmies that they're pushing "Trump" vaccines. (That both Biden and Harris said couldn't be trusted when they were running for office in 2020.)
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The cost of a vaccine resistant mutation arising from this group of risk takers has got to be close to a trillion dollars.
Actually the cost is closer to a million, bazillion, trillion, quadrillion to the 9th power.
However our new prez will pull it out of his ass :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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Star Member DBoon (18,063 posts)
2. I would not do business with any place that did NOT restrict unvaccinated
How would you know, genius?
Pobeka is another one:
I have no desire to go into a restaurant who allows non vaccinated folks (unless they have a real medical waver). Absolutely don't want to be on an airplane with them.
When you walked into that restaurant, you didn't have to present your papers. How are you going to know about everybody else there?
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Anybody got a mole that's still alive? Somebody should remind the DUmmies that they're pushing "Trump" vaccines. (That both Biden and Harris said couldn't be trusted when they were running for office in 2020.)
The chances that Stinker himself was vociferously on the Untested Trump Vaccine bandwagon back in September and October are really high. It was DU Party Line back then.
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When you walked into that restaurant, you didn't have to present your papers. How are you going to know about everybody else there?
knowing how DUmmies are, I wouldn't put it past them to yell out to all the customers in the restaurant demanding them to raise their vaccination cards high above their heads for inspection as the DUmmy passed by on the way to his/her/it's table
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The chances that Stinker himself was vociferously on the Untested Trump Vaccine bandwagon back in September and October are really high. It was DU Party Line back then.
As always, without double standards, liberals would have no standards at all.
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The chances that Stinker himself was vociferously on the Untested Trump Vaccine bandwagon back in September and October are really high. It was DU Party Line back then.
Yes, of course. The sparkling old dude is not known for his constancy.
Neither is his second wife.
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I'm sure a loooong list can be compiled.
Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:35 PM
Sympthsical (969 posts)
40. Maybe slow that authoritarian roll there
Yeesh.
Even with vaccines, we should still mask and socially distance.
We've dealt with anti-vaxxers for decades. Now that it's Republicans, we need to re-order society?
People need to get a handle on this nonsense.
Alright buddy, you just made the list.
Response to Sympthsical (Reply #40)Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:11 PM
Star Member Stinky The Clown (62,992 posts)
41. Which vaccine did you get?
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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #40)Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:11 PM
Star Member Stinky The Clown (62,992 posts)
41. Which vaccine did you get?
:rotf: Did Stinker get an answer he really didn't want to hear, the a "good" Prog DU-member is a vax-resister or an out-and-out anti-vaxxer? :rotf: DU-grade Proggies want to believe that all vax-resisters and anti-vaxxers are Rs and conservatives, but Ds and Progs have plenty of both in their midst. :rotf:
ETA: Stinker posted that Sunday and got no response.
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Anybody got a mole that's still alive? Somebody should remind the DUmmies that they're pushing "Trump" vaccines. (That both Biden and Harris said couldn't be trusted when they were running for office in 2020.)
Remember when;
Trump says every American can get a coronavirus vaccine by April, but health experts say that's not likely
By Maggie Fox and Nikki Carvajal, CNN
Updated 7:01 PM ET, Fri September 18, 2020
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/18/health/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-april-promise-bn/index.html
I always love it when Trump is correct.
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Remember when;
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/18/health/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-april-promise-bn/index.html
I always love it when Trump is correct.
Trump says every American can get a coronavirus vaccine by April, but health experts say that's not likely
By Maggie Fox and Nikki Carvajal, CNN
Updated 7:01 PM ET, Fri September 18, 2020
You know, you just made me realize something I've been missing with respect to the DUmmies. The reason they didn't like Trump was because of the simple things he did NOT do, like add 2 tiny little words to that statement above. They would have preferred something more along the lines of this;
Trump says every American can, and WILL, get a coronavirus vaccine by April, but health experts say that's not likely
By Maggie Fox and Nikki Carvajal, CNN
Updated 7:01 PM ET, Fri September 18, 2020
Funny how you just come to realize stuff like that ...
KC