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Re: New Member to ConservativeCave
« Reply #75 on: June 21, 2013, 02:32:35 PM »
'Penis' is banned but not 'boobiez' -lol

Peniz is spelled differently.
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Re: New Member to ConservativeCave
« Reply #76 on: June 21, 2013, 02:34:27 PM »
Bitch slapped for asking questions.
Hey! I thought I should ask. You can never tell when something is or isn't a euphemism here sometimes.

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Re: New Member to ConservativeCave
« Reply #77 on: June 21, 2013, 02:37:14 PM »
Hey! I thought I should ask. You can never tell when something is or isn't a euphemism here sometimes.

Be patient Grasshopper, all will be revealed.

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« Reply #78 on: June 21, 2013, 02:50:02 PM »
Hey! I thought I should ask. You can never tell when something is or isn't a euphemism here sometimes.

Dutch does that to everyone. Especially around his birthday and he's reminded how old he really is.

Gotta remember he was Elvis' Platoon Sergeant.
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Re: Re: Re: New Member to ConservativeCave
« Reply #79 on: June 21, 2013, 02:52:38 PM »
Dutch does that to everyone. Especially around his birthday and he's reminded how old he really is.

Gotta remember he was Elvis' Platoon Sergeant.
I went to have a haircut at the Fort where Elvis got his first military haircut. The barber chair he sat in for his first military haircut is still ther on display.
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Re: Re: Re: New Member to ConservativeCave
« Reply #80 on: June 21, 2013, 02:55:31 PM »
Dutch does that to everyone. Especially around his birthday and he's reminded how old he really is.

Gotta remember he was Elvis' Platoon Sergeant.

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« Reply #81 on: June 21, 2013, 02:57:51 PM »
I was on point recon for Moses.

Old soldiers never die.  They just smell that way.

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Re: Re: Re: New Member to ConservativeCave
« Reply #82 on: June 21, 2013, 03:09:27 PM »
Old soldiers never die.  They just smell that way.

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Re: Re: New Member to ConservativeCave
« Reply #83 on: June 21, 2013, 05:29:27 PM »
Sounds like we've got a college kid trying to use us as an experiment.

Ok n00b you ate trying to claim you're not a lib...how do you feel about current proposals on:

Immigration reform.

Obamacare.

Social Security reform.

Energy independence.

Abortion.

Gay marriage.



Not asking for a college dissertation on them like you've been doing with your previous responses. Just short concise answers on why you are for/against the above issues.

Nice ad hominem attack. Anyway, I'll ignore that and give my positions on the subjects above.

Immigration Reform

I'll just talk about the immigration problem in general.

Immigration is one of the biggest problems in this country today. Here's how we can fix it.

  • Simplify the citizenship acquisition process.
  • Offer a path to citizenship for current non-criminal immigrants in the country.
  • Establish more infrastructure to deter illegal immigrants from entering the US.
  • Allocate more funds to border security.

First off, simplifying the citizenship acquisition process means that potential legal immigrants won't have to wait years to gain entry into the United States. Secondly, offering a path to citizenship for the current immigrants (who are non-criminal) will enable us to tax them. Drawing revenue for which we could eventually pay the next two things on the list off. Thirdly, establishing more infrastructure to deter illegal immigrants (and other undesirable elements such as drug cartels) to deter them such as fences, more border checkpoints, motion sensors, cameras, drones to watch the border, etc. will help in keeping other illegals from getting in. Lastly, allocating more funds to border security (such as Border Patrol) will enable them to expand and be able to defend our border and apprehend immigrants who got past the infrastructure.

I bet you were looking for me to say "Nobody's illegal", but I'm not a hippy or an OccuTard. Sorry to disappoint.

Obamacare

I am in favor of healthcare for those who can't afford it, but Obamacare isn't a perfect policy, and it definitely should not be done in a recession. We should focus on paying off our debt first.

Social Security reform

No privatization. Privatizing Social Security makes it fall into the hands of the few, for the purpose of bringing profit to these few people. Social Security is meant to help the populace, not draw profits. So I believe it should stay in public hands.

Energy Independence

I believe the United States should definitely make efforts to become independent in regards to energy. We don't want to fall to the feet of foreign oil cartels. However I believe we shouldn't pollute our environment trying to get our hands on oil. Fracking isn't exactly the most beneficial to the environment, and the Tar Sands? Forget about it. We should look into green alternatives instead of trying to please a few oil barons here. We should stick with nuclear, solar, and hydroelectric energy.

Abortion

Ban after the first trimester, there can be exceptions though such as the pregnancy later becomes a danger to the mother's life, or if certain circumstances prevented them from getting an abortion in the first trimester. The circumstances better be something good too, not just "I was lazy and didn't feel like going until now" or "I changed my mind" or some other bullshit.

Gay Marraige

I don't see the point in not letting them get married to be honest. It's just a word. Let them eat cake and toss each others' salads.

On another topic, holy shit this thread got huge.
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Re: New Member to ConservativeCave
« Reply #84 on: June 21, 2013, 05:34:11 PM »
I think our new friend got lost trying to find Stormfront.  I'm sure the National Socialists there would be more to his liking.

Not even a week on here and I get called a National Socialist. Lol.
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Re: New Member to ConservativeCave
« Reply #85 on: June 21, 2013, 06:05:07 PM »
I see you live in New York. Is that city or just the state?

For the NYC mayor. Who do you support, Weiner or that Dyke...dang forget her name. or who else?

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Re: New Member to ConservativeCave
« Reply #86 on: June 21, 2013, 06:14:31 PM »
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mmigration Reform

I'll just talk about the immigration problem in general.

Immigration is one of the biggest problems in this country today. Here's how we can fix it.

Simplify the citizenship acquisition process.
Offer a path to citizenship for current non-criminal immigrants in the country.
Establish more infrastructure to deter illegal immigrants from entering the US.
Allocate more funds to border security.




Here's how can also fix it.

Close the border...for good.


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I am in favor of healthcare for those who can't afford it, but Obamacare isn't a perfect policy, and it definitely should not be done in a recession. We should focus on paying off our debt first.

I'm glad that we agree on this. Obamacare is going to collapse under it's own weight.  


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No privatization. Privatizing Social Security makes it fall into the hands of the few, for the purpose of bringing profit to these few people. Social Security is meant to help the populace, not draw profits. So I believe it should stay in public hands.

I feel you brother but I think that you need to look at the history of this thing to see how it is failing.

The social safety net is not workable in it's current form.

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I believe the United States should definitely make efforts to become independent in regards to energy. We don't want to fall to the feet of foreign oil cartels. However I believe we shouldn't pollute our environment trying to get our hands on oil. Fracking isn't exactly the most beneficial to the environment, and the Tar Sands? Forget about it. We should look into green alternatives instead of trying to please a few oil barons here. We should stick with nuclear, solar, and hydroelectric energy.

You know, I might be on board with this until I took a helicopter ride around Indianapolis.

465 runs around the boarder of Indy, Have you ever seen so many cars in your life? We are going to need gasoline and diesel for the foreseeable future.

I haven't even mentioned what bio fuels do to existing fuel systems.


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Ban after the first trimester, there can be exceptions though such as the pregnancy later becomes a danger to the mother's life, or if certain circumstances prevented them from getting an abortion in the first trimester. The circumstances better be something good too, not just "I was lazy and didn't feel like going until now" or "I changed my mind" or some other bullshit.

I'm not sure we are too much apart on this.


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I don't see the point in not letting them get married to be honest. It's just a word. Let them eat cake and toss each others' salads.

NO. They can shag each other as much as they want. They can have civil unions as far as I am concerned.

But marriage, NO.



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Re: New Member to ConservativeCave
« Reply #87 on: June 21, 2013, 06:20:22 PM »
Lex claims not to be a liberal, but he's been spouting every talking point the party has.

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Re: New Member to ConservativeCave
« Reply #88 on: June 21, 2013, 06:33:39 PM »
Not even a week on here and I get called a National Socialist. Lol.
I'm sorry, I must have you confused with someone else.
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« Reply #89 on: June 21, 2013, 06:36:12 PM »
Not even a week on here and I get called a National Socialist. Lol.

My first week or so, someone called me Humpty Dumpty; wasn't he fat?  -which is worse?

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Re: New Member to ConservativeCave
« Reply #90 on: June 21, 2013, 06:42:26 PM »
My first week or so, someone called me Humpty Dumpty; wasn't he fat?  -which is worse?

I can't but notice that you are still here.

I'm assuming that it was not fatal.
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« Reply #91 on: June 21, 2013, 06:49:29 PM »
I can't but notice that you are still here.

I'm assuming that it was not fatal.

I'm still here but I was never here in the first place.... :rimshot:

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Re: Re: New Member to ConservativeCave
« Reply #92 on: June 21, 2013, 07:02:22 PM »
Nice ad hominem attack. Anyway, I'll ignore that and give my positions on the subjects above.

Immigration Reform
No body wants to secure the border FIRST, so it's a no go. (SEE Reagan amnesty failure)

Obamacare
I am in favor of healthcare for those who can't afford it, but Obamacare isn't a perfect policy, and it definitely should not be done in a recession. We should focus on paying off our debt first.

Pie in the sky.

Social Security reform

No privatization. Privatizing Social Security makes it fall into the hands of the few, for the purpose of bringing profit to these few people. Social Security is meant to help the populace, not draw profits. So I believe it should stay in public hands.

Look into the federal "thrift savings plan", best possible model. "Public hands" are full of waste and fraud.

Energy Independence

I believe the United States should definitely make efforts to become independent in regards to energy. We don't want to fall to the feet of foreign oil cartels. However I believe we shouldn't pollute our environment trying to get our hands on oil. Fracking isn't exactly the most beneficial to the environment, and the Tar Sands? Forget about it. We should look into green alternatives instead of trying to please a few oil barons here. We should stick with nuclear, solar, and hydroelectric energy.

You don't have the facts to support your conclusions.

Abortion

Ban after the first trimester, there can be exceptions though such as the pregnancy later becomes a danger to the mother's life, or if certain circumstances prevented them from getting an abortion in the first trimester. The circumstances better be something good too, not just "I was lazy and didn't feel like going until now" or "I changed my mind" or some other bullshit.

It's killing a baby.

Gay Marraige

I don't see the point in not letting them get married to be honest. It's just a word. Let them eat cake and toss each others' salads.

Why isn't civil unions enough ?    :thatsright:


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Re: New Member to ConservativeCave
« Reply #93 on: June 21, 2013, 07:22:22 PM »
Why do people insist that they get health care and not have to pay for it ?
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« Reply #94 on: June 21, 2013, 07:38:44 PM »
Why do people insist that they get health care and not have to pay for it ?

Why would they not do such a thing?
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« Reply #95 on: June 21, 2013, 09:18:02 PM »
Why would they not do such a thing?
Most doctors don't want to treat patients for free. It used to be that you could pay them in chickens or some form of barter. Now doctors invest huge amounts in education and even more to set up their practices to pay off their debt. They like it when their "customers" pay for services rendered, so they can pay off debt, and have enough money left over to have a decent chance at the American dream. Otherwise if doctors had to provide all their services for free, and somehow tap into some other income source to pay debt, and living expenses, they might not want to be doctors. They might want to be some other professional that did earn enough.
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Re: New Member to ConservativeCave
« Reply #96 on: June 21, 2013, 09:30:36 PM »
I'm sorry, I must have you confused with someone else.

Lol. Do you seriously think I actually believe half the crap I say on that profile?
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Re: Re: New Member to ConservativeCave
« Reply #97 on: June 21, 2013, 09:48:51 PM »
Nice ad hominem attack. Anyway, I'll ignore that and give my positions on the subjects above.

Immigration Reform
No body wants to secure the border FIRST, so it's a no go. (SEE Reagan amnesty failure)

Obamacare
I am in favor of healthcare for those who can't afford it, but Obamacare isn't a perfect policy, and it definitely should not be done in a recession. We should focus on paying off our debt first.

Pie in the sky.

Social Security reform

No privatization. Privatizing Social Security makes it fall into the hands of the few, for the purpose of bringing profit to these few people. Social Security is meant to help the populace, not draw profits. So I believe it should stay in public hands.

Look into the federal "thrift savings plan", best possible model. "Public hands" are full of waste and fraud.

Energy Independence

I believe the United States should definitely make efforts to become independent in regards to energy. We don't want to fall to the feet of foreign oil cartels. However I believe we shouldn't pollute our environment trying to get our hands on oil. Fracking isn't exactly the most beneficial to the environment, and the Tar Sands? Forget about it. We should look into green alternatives instead of trying to please a few oil barons here. We should stick with nuclear, solar, and hydroelectric energy.

You don't have the facts to support your conclusions.

Abortion

Ban after the first trimester, there can be exceptions though such as the pregnancy later becomes a danger to the mother's life, or if certain circumstances prevented them from getting an abortion in the first trimester. The circumstances better be something good too, not just "I was lazy and didn't feel like going until now" or "I changed my mind" or some other bullshit.

It's killing a baby.

Gay Marraige

I don't see the point in not letting them get married to be honest. It's just a word. Let them eat cake and toss each others' salads.

Why isn't civil unions enough ?

Problem with securing the border first is we just don't have the funds right now. So we tax the current immigrants once they are legal residents, so we can at least get some funds before we endeavor on allocating funds to securing our border.

No facts, eh? Okay then.

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Killing a baby. It's a hard decision, although, it's not yours to make. Are you the mother? Or do you want the government to be so small it can fit into womens' private parts?

What's the point of restricting homosexuals to just Civil Unions? I don't get it. There's nothing special about a word.
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« Reply #98 on: June 21, 2013, 09:51:52 PM »
Lol. Do you seriously think I actually believe half the crap I say on that profile?
I forgot... school is out for the summer and children are free to roam around unsupervised.

Whatever you say, guy.

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« Reply #99 on: June 21, 2013, 10:08:33 PM »
I forgot... school is out for the summer and children are free to roam around unsupervised.

Whatever you say, guy.



Hmmm...implying I'm a child. Kind of an insult, doesn't really make you look all that better.




Here's how can also fix it.

Close the border...for good.


I'm glad that we agree on this. Obamacare is going to collapse under it's own weight. 


I feel you brother but I think that you need to look at the history of this thing to see how it is failing.

The social safety net is not workable in it's current form.

You know, I might be on board with this until I took a helicopter ride around Indianapolis.

465 runs around the boarder of Indy, Have you ever seen so many cars in your life? We are going to need gasoline and diesel for the foreseeable future.

I haven't even mentioned what bio fuels do to existing fuel systems.


I'm not sure we are too much apart on this.


NO. They can shag each other as much as they want. They can have civil unions as far as I am concerned.

But marriage, NO.


I'm glad I have some agreeing points with at least one person here. Anyway I shall comment.

Closing the borders for good? Seems a bit too radical. We should pick and choose who gets into the nation more carefully. Not just letting anyone who can speak a little English in. Let the educated come here, engineers, doctors, etc. We can always use more of them.

I agree that Social Security is indeed failing these days, but we shouldn't fully put it in private hands. If we put it in private hands, they're going to be using Social Security for profit. Social Security wasn't meant to be used for profit.

Sure we're going to still have to use oil. America has become dependent on it, but in places where we don't need to use oil and other dirty energy-producing resources we should strive to replace it with more efficient and environmentally (and human) friendly energy (like for providing power to our nation's cities and suburbs.) Eventually with the increasing prevalence of greener alternatives I think we as Americans can shake off our oil addiction.

May I ask why can't they have gay marriage? A word isn't that big of a deal. No matter the traditional definition.
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"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light." - Plato