Holy Hell
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2966050ThomWV (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-06-08 08:03 AM
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On American Strength
Advertisements [?]Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 08:06 AM by ThomWV
Where did the idea that the US is the most powerful nation on earth come from and is it still valid? Consider first our involvement in World War I; in which the introduction of fresh troops and more importantly fresh equipment from the American Expeditionary Force broke the war's stalemate and ushered in the allied victory. We were able to do that because our industrial base which flourished in the 50 years after the Civil War in this nation. Then came the Second World war. It was our undisturbed industrial base and immense energy reserves that gave the minor advantage that allowed the allies to win that one. We were able to make the equipment to supply both our military, the British, the Russians, and all the others that we fought with. that was a tremendous accomplishment and was at once the beginning our our status as a Super Power. We did not win the Second World War because we were somehow a superior people, we did it because we had industrial might and the energy to run it. Ethiopia called her people to war armed with spears, Polish peasants brought battle axes to the front, we supplied the RAF with aircraft and Russia with tanks, we build the transport ships that fed Britain, and coal from West Virginia and oil from Texas and Oklahoma fueled both the machines and the factories.
Where are we today? If we contract out our military production to other nations can it be said we are still a super power? Is the key in the design or in the building? Well, maybe its a moot point; what nation would contract with us if our money had no value, what sort of Super Power will we be when we no longer have the factories to build the tools of war, no more energy sources to run the factories, and no valuable currency with with to buy the stuff?
Their knowledge of history is bad enough...........their knowledge of military history is even worse. DUMBASS
I believe this to be a response from the Tom Thumb primitive on Boeing losing the contract to Nortrup Grumman and Airbus for the new Tanker.
Well to continue with further poo flinging and America hatred............without further ado...
tekisui (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-06-08 08:23 AM
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1. We are no longer a "Super Power", much less THE Super Power.
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 08:23 AM by tekisui
Much of our country is foreign owned. Our debt is foreign owned, our Industries are foreign owned. Most of what we buy is foreign produced. We even have to outsource our military roles. We have as many corporate mercenaries in Iraq as we do US soldiers.
http://www.economyincrisis.org /
The Sun has set on the American Empire. We need to realize that, quit talking and acting like we are the ones who are in charge, and build out country from the inside.
KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-06-08 08:38 AM
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2. There's More To A "Super" Power Than Military
It's the entire economic and social structure that shows a country's strength...military is just one aspect of that power and without the infrastructure, such "power" wouldn't be possible.
The U.S. "emerged" as a "power" following the Spanish-American war and it was based as much on this country's ability to outproduce than our enemies. It was the "Arsenal of Democracy" that was our military might before we sent any troops into WWII and its that arsenal, along with the economic engine behind it that not only propelled the U.S. after the War, but also contributed greatly to the rebuilding of Europe...and where the ground of our "superpower" status really lies.
Also, it's been American culture that has made a big impact...our movies are still the standard around the world and American tourists (no matter how ugyly they are) were visible signs of the affluence and power that other nations would emulate...and in many cases succede better than we have.
The one thing that remains America's strength is our breadbasket...we still are the world's largest food producer and this strength should never be understimated.
The concept that America is some superior nation is what needs to be revised...many assume this to mean we can push anyone and everyone around. The strength of a great nation is showing that power without ever having to fire a shot in anger.
tom_paine (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-06-08 08:41 AM
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3. Where are we today? A kinder and gentler 1930 Germany.
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 08:41 AM by tom_paine
But the same people with the same mentality heading for the same end of their republic, just tailor made for today's delicate sensibilities and the fact that we were once free for two centuries, unlike the 1930s Germans.
American strength? Don't make me laugh. We are the weakest bunch of fools to ever inhabit this nation, which isn't even the Old American Republic (1776-2000, RIP) anymore. And it is my estimate that when the time comes to decide freedom with sacrific or virtual slavery, we will bend our cowardly knees to Emperor Jeb or George P. 98% chance.
Sorry, Thom. Don't blame the messenger because the news is bad.
Holy hell.............the tom_Paine idiotic primitive needs his meds. I wouldn't have thought that their meds would have run out already.
