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Offline Delmar

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I stumbled on this Obama/Putin thread from last September that is full of pure comedy gold that is even funnier in hindsight.  Seemingly the DUmmies weren't buying it but everybody that has scrolled through the hero-worshipping comments on one of their Obama picture threads knows better--they believe this crap. 

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Fri Sep 6, 2013, 01:40 AM
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A dominant Obama meets Putin at G20


Putin knows when he is in the presence of a real world leader.


President Barack Obama was intent on getting the upper hand as he greeted Russia's Vladimir Putin at the G-20 summit on Thursday, according to body language experts who watched the frosty exchange.

From a jacket-buttoning pause to a hard-pumping handshake, Obama displayed tell-tale signs of dominance after he alit from a limo in front of St. Petersburg's Konstantin Palace, where Putin waited to meet him, communication experts said.

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Patti Wood, author of "Success Signals: Body Language in Business," made a similar analogy.

"It was very odd. Obama is treating him like he was greeting a doorman," she said.

She noted the significance Obama buttoning his suit jacket after exiting the limo.

"That’s another way men show power," she said. "It says, 'I know the attention is on me' and it’s a little bit rude to do that. It's grabbing the power for yourself."

Tonya Reiman, who has written three books on body language, said Obama extended his hand at least two seconds before Putin did.

"This is a show of power," she said. "In addition, he leans in toward Putin with his upper body, placing himself slightly into Putin's personal zone. Notice Putin pulls back ever so slightly, which indicates that Obama has the upper hand."

During the handshake, they pumped up and down 18 times, said Joseph Tecce, a psychology professor and body-language scholar at Boston College.

"The handshake is very tense. The 18 may have been an attempt for either one to show dominance, to say, 'Don't fuss with me," he said. "Or they are saying, 'Look, we are shaking hands, we're good — an attempt to establish what is not real."

Wood said Obama grasped Putin's hand from underneath so he could bring it up to him.

"That says, 'I’m in charge here. I’m going to run the show," she said.

"Putin is intimidated by Obama, Obama is not intimidated by Putin," Tecce said.

When the encounter was over, Putin remained standing outside the palace as Obama walked inside.

Reiman noticed that before Obama strode off, he raised up his arm, which she labeled a sign of dominance. "Putin looks down — another sign of submissive behavior," she said.



http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/05/20342654-the-big-chill-a-dominant-obama-meets-a-cool-putin-at-g20?lite

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023608341

But now we find out that fear of Putin is turning Barry's hair gray.
http://twitchy.com/2014/03/16/russia-media-chief-claims-fear-of-putin-making-obama-go-gray-more-likely-reason-provided-video/
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Re: From bold and dominant to fearful and graying in six short months
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2014, 05:47:17 PM »
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She noted the significance Obama buttoning his suit jacket after exiting the limo.

"That’s another way men show power," she said. "It says, 'I know the attention is on me' and it’s a little bit rude to do that. It's grabbing the power for yourself."

Tonya Reiman, who has written three books on body language, said Obama extended his hand at least two seconds before Putin did.

"This is a show of power," she said. "In addition, he leans in toward Putin with his upper body, placing himself slightly into Putin's personal zone. Notice Putin pulls back ever so slightly, which indicates that Obama has the upper hand."

During the handshake, they pumped up and down 18 times, said Joseph Tecce, a psychology professor and body-language scholar at Boston College.

"The handshake is very tense. The 18 may have been an attempt for either one to show dominance, to say, 'Don't fuss with me," he said. "Or they are saying, 'Look, we are shaking hands, we're good — an attempt to establish what is not real."

Wood said Obama grasped Putin's hand from underneath so he could bring it up to him.

"That says, 'I’m in charge here. I’m going to run the show," she said.

"Putin is intimidated by Obama, Obama is not intimidated by Putin," Tecce said.

When the encounter was over, Putin remained standing outside the palace as Obama walked inside.

Reiman noticed that before Obama strode off, he raised up his arm, which she labeled a sign of dominance. "Putin looks down — another sign of submissive behavior," she said.

Jeez, and not a word about the patriarchal dominant rape culture.   :lmao:

They want this tiny turd to match the uber badass image that's in their heads so damn badly, don't they?
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Re: From bold and dominant to fearful and graying in six short months
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2014, 06:09:45 PM »
Jeez, and not a word about the patriarchal dominant rape culture.   :lmao:

They want this tiny turd to match the uber badass image that's in their heads so damn badly, don't they?
They can twist, turn, spin, tell any lie they want but he's still a wussy....always has been....always will be.
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Re: From bold and dominant to fearful and graying in six short months
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2014, 06:20:13 PM »
As we used to say, Obama "...is all show, and no go."
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Re: From bold and dominant to fearful and graying in six short months
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2014, 08:49:22 PM »
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Tonya Reiman, who has written three books on body language, said Obama extended his hand at least two seconds before Putin did.

"This is a show of power," she said.

Or supplication as the one who needs the meeting.

The body language subtleties are highly overrated.  Body language does not mean the same thing across cultures; to a Russian or Central European, Putin being the reserved one, rather than the effusively eager one trying to force things along, shows strength and dealing from a position of power.

Another example of our press trying to make Obama sound like Superman, the 20-dimensional chess player, when he's really just dropping trow and shitting all over the checkerboard to the annoyance of all the adults present.
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Re: From bold and dominant to fearful and graying in six short months
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2014, 08:51:59 PM »
Or supplication as the one who needs the meeting.

The body language subtleties are highly overrated.  Body language does not mean the same thing across cultures; to a Russian or Central European, Putin being the reserved one, rather than the effusively eager one trying to force things along, shows strength and dealing from a position of power.

Another example of our press trying to make Obama sound like Superman, the 20-dimensional chess player, when he's really just dropping trow and shitting all over the checkerboard to the annoyance of all the adults present.
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Re: From bold and dominant to fearful and graying in six short months
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2014, 06:57:12 PM »
Actually, Obama is not "losing" the "exchange." He is in full cohorts with Putin's and other dictators' world dominance view.  Most conservatives and passionate Americans are pissed, and Obama may be an incompetent unknowing boob overall, but make no mistake: Putin's world vision, is Lenin's world vision, is Obama's world vision. Period.
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Re: From bold and dominant to fearful and graying in six short months
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2014, 07:03:07 PM »

     We look at videotape and debate body language as if Putin wasn't in the KGB and knows every single trick in the book.

     DUmmies: Putin is the one playing chess. 0bama is playing jacks, and badly.
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Re: From bold and dominant to fearful and graying in six short months
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2014, 07:53:38 PM »
I stumbled on this Obama/Putin thread from last September that is full of pure comedy gold that is even funnier in hindsight.  Seemingly the DUmmies weren't buying it but everybody that has scrolled through the hero-worshipping comments on one of their Obama picture threads knows better--they believe this crap.  
 
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023608341

But now we find out that fear of Putin is turning Barry's hair gray.
http://twitchy.com/2014/03/16/russia-media-chief-claims-fear-of-putin-making-obama-go-gray-more-likely-reason-provided-video/

Excellent find!  :hi5:

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Tonya Reiman, who has written three books on body language, said Obama extended his hand at least two seconds before Putin did.

"This is a show of power," she said. No it's not......"In addition, he leans in toward Putin with his upper body, placing himself slightly into Putin's personal zone. Notice Putin pulls back ever so slightly, which indicates that Obama has the upper hand."   Wrong.  It signifies someone who is anxious and uneasy.  

Why are you 'tards quoting someone who appears on FAUXNews?

     We look at videotape and debate body language as if Putin wasn't in the KGB and knows every single trick in the book.

....and some. 
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Re: From bold and dominant to fearful and graying in six short months
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2014, 11:48:37 PM »
^5 Delmar.  Good find.  I got a great laugh out of that read.
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Re: From bold and dominant to fearful and graying in six short months
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2014, 04:30:55 AM »
As we used to say, Obama "...is all show, and no go."
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