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Re: Mr. Obama: *******
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2009, 06:41:13 PM »
Quote from: Sweet Dee on February 02, 2009, 06:36:34 PM
You could say the same for anyone who refers to a black man as a "negro".  Good lord son, grow up.  If you can't make a valid argument based on facts and rational commentary, then you need to shut the heck up and avoid the racist dialogue.  Geez.

Sweety, you are out of your element.  I had higher hopes for you, but you just aren't well-informed.  Please do yourself a favor and research who it was that brought the term "The Magic Negro" into the modern political lexicon.  It wasn't me.
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Re: Mr. Obama: *******
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2009, 06:42:19 PM »
Quote from: Sweet Dee on February 02, 2009, 06:36:34 PM
You could say the same for anyone who refers to a black man as a "negro".  Good lord son, grow up.  If you can't make a valid argument based on facts and rational commentary, then you need to shut the heck up and avoid the racist dialogue.  Geez.
It's a reference to an LAT op-ed about the counterfeit mythological status afforded person's of color in movies such as Bagger Vance and Bruce, Almighty.

BTW - the op-ed was written by an african american
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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2009, 06:48:08 PM »
I just saw the coverage of this very story on access Hollywood - yeah I'm that bored right now.  LOL

Anyway, the bottom line for me is, if he wants to be taken serious as President of the United States he wouldn't even entertain the conversation with Matt Lauer.  It wouldn't be a thought in his head.  I would rather he be preoccupied with all those wonderful things he has promised to do than have a little sit down with Matty.   ::)

Honestly it just shows that Obama is more concerned with making sure everyone loves him more than running the country and keeping us safe.  OF course that has been obvious with his choices of cabinet members and hanging out in the press room and making sure he is photographed in the oval office on the phone.  It is freaking Hollywood President and honestly I am not surprised by his comment or his willingness to even discuss that his family is on the cover of some gossip mag.  

Personally I have never thought that entertainment and politics mix, actually I have always thought that was the worst possible combination.  Just one more way to see how this presidency is more of a popularity contest than anything else.   ::)
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« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2009, 06:50:30 PM »
I don't wish to hi-jack the thread, but I never did like the usage of <hypenated> American.

This includes, but is not limited to:

African-American

Japanese-American

Chinese-American

German-American

Italian-American

etc...

Either one is an American or one is not.  I care less about where one's ancestors came from or the color of their skin.  

IMO the usage of such terms only continues to be devisive between sub-cultural elements of our society.

Sorry for the thread drift, but PCism is a pet peeve of mine.

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Re: Mr. Obama: *******
« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2009, 06:51:20 PM »
Quote from: Lord Undies on February 02, 2009, 06:41:13 PM
Sweety, you are out of your element.  I had higher hopes for you, but you just aren't well-informed.  Please do yourself a favor and research who it was that brought the term "The Magic Negro" into the modern political lexicon.  It wasn't me.

Don't call me sweetie.  And don't use the fact that the term was created by a black man, as the sheild that makes it okay for you to repeat it and act like a friggin' self-righteous know it all.  You are condescending and rude because you rarely have anything relevant to say.  You have to use other people's words instead of your own.  And you use them in tacky, ridiculous ways.  So let's pretend that I respect you, and you can just pretend like I'm the dimwit little chick you've made me out to be.

Peace the frick out.  Good lord.  This topic is out of control.
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« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2009, 06:51:40 PM »
Quote from: Tess on February 02, 2009, 06:48:08 PM
I just saw the coverage of this very story on access Hollywood - yeah I'm that bored right now.  LOL

Anyway, the bottom line for me is, if he wants to be taken serious as President of the United States he wouldn't even entertain the conversation with Matt Lauer.  It wouldn't be a thought in his head.  I would rather he be preoccupied with all those wonderful things he has promised to do than have a little sit down with Matty.   ::)

Honestly it just shows that Obama is more concerned with making sure everyone loves him more than running the country and keeping us safe.  OF course that has been obvious with his choices of cabinet members and hanging out in the press room and making sure he is photographed in the oval office on the phone.  It is freaking Hollywood President and honestly I am not surprised by his comment or his willingness to even discuss that his family is on the cover of some gossip mag.  

Personally I have never thought that entertainment and politics mix, actually I have always thought that was the worst possible combination.  Just one more way to see how this presidency is more of a popularity contest than anything else.   ::)

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Re: Mr. Obama: *******
« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2009, 06:52:38 PM »
Quote from: Sweet Dee on February 02, 2009, 06:51:20 PM
Don't call me sweetie.  And don't use the fact that the term was created by a black man, as the sheild that makes it okay for you to repeat it and act like a friggin' self-righteous know it all.  You are condescending and rude because you rarely have anything relevant to say.  You have to use other people's words instead of your own.  And you use them in tacky, ridiculous ways.  So let's pretend that I respect you, and you can just pretend like I'm the dimwit little chick you've made me out to be.

Peace the frick out.  Good lord.  This topic is out of control.

Not to point out the obvious but your moniker is "sweet" dee....
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Re: Mr. Obama: *******
« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2009, 06:52:41 PM »
Maybe you guys that are all ripped over this just expect more from your guy, personally I think he's dirt.  However reading the cover of a national magazine in no way brings him down lower than dirt in my eyes - only his policies can do that.  As for Jess, I'm sure she's fine with the extra publicity.

He called Sarah a pig and that was low; Sunday was nothing other then a media/barack love fest.
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Re: Mr. Obama: *******
« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2009, 07:02:06 PM »
Quote from: Sweet Dee on February 02, 2009, 06:51:20 PM
Don't call me sweetie.  And don't use the fact that the term was created by a black man, as the sheild that makes it okay for you to repeat it and act like a friggin' self-righteous know it all.  You are condescending and rude because you rarely have anything relevant to say.  You have to use other people's words instead of your own.  And you use them in tacky, ridiculous ways.  So let's pretend that I respect you, and you can just pretend like I'm the dimwit little chick you've made me out to be.

Peace the frick out.  Good lord.  This topic is out of control.
It isn't about the term being coined by a black man, sweetie; it's about the psuedo-mythology assigned to him because of his skin color. Pony McHope-coke is trying to play a big people's game when he hasn't even had to cross the street without the like of Bill Ayers holding his hand.

He's a rank amateur with an emphasis on rank.
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Re: Mr. Obama: *******
« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2009, 07:03:14 PM »
Quote from: Sweet Dee on February 02, 2009, 06:51:20 PM
Don't call me sweetie.  And don't use the fact that the term was created by a black man, as the sheild that makes it okay for you to repeat it and act like a friggin' self-righteous know it all.  You are condescending and rude because you rarely have anything relevant to say.  You have to use other people's words instead of your own.  And you use them in tacky, ridiculous ways.  So let's pretend that I respect you, and you can just pretend like I'm the dimwit little chick you've made me out to be.

Peace the frick out.  Good lord.  This topic is out of control.

My, you are a little spitfire.  I like that in a gal.  You may be a dim bulb in the world, but you will always shine as a beacon of silliness to me.
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« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2009, 07:09:03 PM »
I think it made him look like a douche.  I already knew Matt Lauer was a douche, I expect a little better from the leader of the free world.
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Re: Mr. Obama: *******
« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2009, 07:10:05 PM »
Quote from: mamacags on February 02, 2009, 07:09:03 PM
I think it made him look like a douche.  I already knew Matt Lauer was a douche, I expect a little better from the leader of the free world.

H5 for use of the term douche where completely appropriate.
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« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2009, 07:11:00 PM »
Quote from: mamacags on February 02, 2009, 07:09:03 PM
I think it made him look like a douche.  I already knew Matt Lauer was a douche, I expect a little better from the leader of the free world.

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« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2009, 07:24:25 PM »
B. Hussein reminds me of the immature and unprofessional middle-management types who think their water-cooler talk is also appropriate when speaking with clientele.

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« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2009, 07:28:24 PM »
Quote from: USA4ME on February 02, 2009, 07:24:25 PM
B. Hussein reminds me of the immature and unprofessional middle-management types who think their water-cooler talk is also appropriate when speaking with clientele.

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Yes, but he can pronounce "nuclear" without an accent and that's what is really important.
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Re: Mr. Obama: asshole
« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2009, 07:29:57 PM »
I thought it showed his naivete.  He should know that every word coming out of his mouth will be scrutinized.  I'm sure he didn't set out to demean her but it came out that way (and yes I know that it was Lauer who brought up the photo in the first place).  Bush had said some stupid stuff before as well and I will admit that I am playing "tit for tat" with regards to this kind of thing.   :-)
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Re: Mr. Obama: asshole
« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2009, 07:31:17 PM »
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Yes, but he can pronounce "nuclear" without an accent and that's what is really important.
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« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2009, 07:31:53 PM »
Quote from: Mr Snuggle Bunny on February 02, 2009, 07:28:24 PM
Yes, but he can pronounce "nuclear" without an accent and that's what is really important.

We know he has "Ahhhhh" down pat.  It seems to be his byword.  
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Re: Mr. Obama: *******
« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2009, 07:32:58 PM »
Quote from: Sweet Dee on February 02, 2009, 06:36:34 PM
You could say the same for anyone who refers to a black man as a "negro".  Good lord son, grow up.  If you can't make a valid argument based on facts and rational commentary, then you need to shut the heck up and avoid the racist dialogue.  Geez.
His skin color is the only reason he was elected.  Outside of that, he has done nothing in his entire pathetic life.  To have the AUDACITY to write 2 books about the NOTHING he has done i his NOTHING life is truly awe-inspiring.

He continues to be Black and thus, I guess he continues to be qualified based on the criterion his voters used.

He is, indeed, the Magic Negro -- a term hung on him by an extremely liberal columnist from the L.A. Times.
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« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2009, 07:34:46 PM »
Quote from: BEG on February 02, 2009, 07:29:57 PM
I thought it showed his naivete.  He should know that every word coming out of his mouth will be scrutinized.  I'm sure he didn't set out to demean her but it came out that way (and yes I know that it was Lauer who brought up the photo in the first place).  Bush had said some stupid stuff before as well and I will admit that I am playing "tit for tat" with regards to this kind of thing.   :-)

the new fuhrer is a painfully stupid man who, without his eminence grice handlers would just sit in the Oval Office playing sock puppet with a WH napkin.
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« Reply #45 on: February 02, 2009, 07:35:01 PM »
Quote from: BEG on February 02, 2009, 07:29:57 PM
I thought it showed his naivete.  He should know that every word coming out of his mouth will be scrutinized.  I'm sure he didn't set out to demean her but it came out that way (and yes I know that it was Lauer who brought up the photo in the first place).  Bush had said some stupid stuff before as well and I will admit that I am playing "tit for tat" with regards to this kind of thing.   :-)

I don't recall President Bush ever saying a hurtful thing about a fellow American, though.  That's where the Crass Sea parts, IMHO <<whatever that means.
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« Reply #46 on: February 02, 2009, 07:53:15 PM »
Quote from: BEG on February 02, 2009, 07:29:57 PM
I thought it showed his naivete.  He should know that every word coming out of his mouth will be scrutinized.  I'm sure he didn't set out to demean her but it came out that way (and yes I know that it was Lauer who brought up the photo in the first place).  Bush had said some stupid stuff before as well and I will admit that I am playing "tit for tat" with regards to this kind of thing.   :-)

After watching the video.  Personally, I perceived it more as a slam on the silliness of taking those magazines or papers seriously.  Rather than a slam on Jessica Simpson, who's still gorgeous IMHO.

Ideally, yes I'd be inclined to say it shows his inexperience as a statesman.  As his words will undoubtedly be meticulously raked through, by the world.  However, that doesn't appear to be a scripted interview.  That being the case, and that we don't live in an ideal world, or have ideal candidates for office.  I can't expect, every statement to be perfectly eloquent and unassailable from controversy.  Lord knows, we didn't hold Bush to that level of accountability  :thatsright:   
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Re: Mr. Obama: *******
« Reply #47 on: February 02, 2009, 07:58:26 PM »
Quote from: Lord Undies on February 02, 2009, 07:35:01 PM
I don't recall President Bush ever saying a hurtful thing about a fellow American, though.  That's where the Crass Sea parts, IMHO <<whatever that means.

Shrugs, I seem to recall a few people being hurt by his words.  A certain reporter with sunglasses.  A certain mother working three jobs to support her children.  So on and so on.

More importantly though, did anyone else notice that BEG said "tit"   :cheersmate: YES!   :cheersmate:


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« Reply #48 on: February 02, 2009, 07:59:06 PM »
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« Reply #49 on: February 02, 2009, 08:02:40 PM »
Quote from: Gratiot on February 02, 2009, 07:58:26 PM
Shrugs, I seem to recall a few people being hurt by his words.  A certain reporter with sunglasses.  A certain mother working three jobs to support her children.  So on and so on.


Well, refresh my memory.
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