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« on: February 18, 2011, 09:01:18 AM »
My names Mike, I'm a Political Science major.
I'm probably get accused of being a liberal several hundred times, as my passion is Debate, so I've trained myself to see both sides.
I'm socially liberal, but politically moderate.
I have a conditioned irrational distaste for Conservativeness, however, I'm completely aware of this and I'm sure I'll overcome it eventually.

I have a knack for pointing out logical fallacies and giving tips on how to improve ones arguments, don't take it as an insult, it's merely constructive criticism.

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Re: Hello there
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2011, 09:03:48 AM »
Welcome.

How did you find us?

No malicious intent behind the query--it's asked of all new members--it's just that as marketing director of conservativecave, I like to know what brings people here; what works and what doesn't work.
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2011, 09:04:24 AM »
Ohhh, I see, another one that thinks that he's more intelligent than the rest of us........  :banghead:
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Re: Hello there
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2011, 09:07:59 AM »
Welcome.

How did you find us?

No malicious intent behind the query--it's asked of all new members--it's just that as marketing director of conservativecave, I like to know what brings people here; what works and what doesn't work.

Honestly? I Googled "Conservative Forum"

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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2011, 09:09:38 AM »
Honestly? I Googled "Conservative Forum"

Yeah, honestly.

It's great market research.
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Re: Hello there
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2011, 09:12:04 AM »
My names Mike, I'm a Political Science major.
I'm probably get accused of being a liberal several hundred times, as my passion is Debate, so I've trained myself to see both sides.
I'm socially liberal, but politically moderate.
I have a conditioned irrational distaste for Conservativeness, however, I'm completely aware of this and I'm sure I'll overcome it eventually.

I have a knack for pointing out logical fallacies and giving tips on how to improve ones arguments, don't take it as an insult, it's merely constructive criticism.

You're a political science major who has yet to take political philosophy. Spare us your condescension. The last thing we need is to be lectured by a wet-behind-the-ears know-it-all fresh out of the womb. Get some life experience, then come talk to us. Academic theory =/= Actual Practice.
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Re: Hello there
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2011, 09:14:43 AM »
Ohhh, I see, another one that thinks that he's more intelligent than the rest of us........  :banghead:

Yeah, my daddy was a dumbass until I moved out of his house. He became very intelligent after that.... :rotf:
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2011, 09:16:18 AM »
Yeah, my daddy was a dumbass until I moved out of his house. He became very intelligent after that.... :rotf:

Samuel Clemens stated the same thing.


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There's a reason why patriotism is considered a conservative value. Watch a Tea Party rally and you'll see people proudly raising the American flag and showing pride in U.S. heroes such as Thomas Jefferson. Watch an OWS rally and you'll see people burning the American flag while showing pride in communist heroes such as Che Guevera. --Bob, from some news site

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Re: Hello there
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2011, 09:19:16 AM »
You're a political science major who has yet to take political philosophy. Spare us your condescension. The last thing we need is to be lectured by a wet-behind-the-ears know-it-all fresh out of the womb. Get some life experience, then come talk to us. Academic theory =/= Actual Practice.

It's not my fault my school lies about what courses it has in the course book.

And your personal attacks are less than appreciated.

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Re: Hello there
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2011, 09:20:46 AM »
It's not my fault my school lies about what courses it has in the course book.

And your personal attacks are less than appreciated.

If you came here looking for respectful and civil discourse, you should have checked your condescension at the door upon arrival.
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Re: Hello there
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2011, 09:24:24 AM »
You're a political science major who has yet to take political philosophy. Spare us your condescension. The last thing we need is to be lectured by a wet-behind-the-ears know-it-all fresh out of the womb. Get some life experience, then come talk to us. Academic theory =/= Actual Practice.

When he finally gets his sheeps skin from a 10+ year course in "Real Life" at the School of Hard Knocks, his tune will change.
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Re: Hello there
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2011, 09:31:59 AM »
If you came here looking for respectful and civil discourse, you should have checked your condescension at the door upon arrival.

My apologies, I didn't realize until now you are an administrator.

I didn't mean to come off as condescending.
I just though I'd jump right in! This is a discussion forum. It seemed to me that most people were talking about how they agree with each other! Clash is a GOOD thing, especially in discussion. It creates new ideas or new views on a position.

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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2011, 09:37:55 AM »
My apologies, I didn't realize until now you are an administrator.

I didn't mean to come off as condescending.
I just though I'd jump right in! This is a discussion forum. It seemed to me that most people were talking about how they agree with each other! Clash is a GOOD thing, especially in discussion. It creates new ideas or new views on a position.

My position doesn't mean anything in this discussion. I'm not corresponding as an admin. I'm corresponding as a poster.
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Re: Hello there
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2011, 09:58:48 AM »
It's not my fault my school lies about what courses it has in the course book.

And your personal attacks are less than appreciated.


Welcome to CC.


If you feel you are being attacked, perhaps you should reread how you introduced yourself.

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I'm a Political Science major.

Congrats on working towards a degree. Education is a good thing. Many of our members have college degrees, and quite a few advanced degrees. Most of our members have years and years of experience in the work force.


I'm probably get accused of being a liberal several hundred times, as my passion is Debate, so I've trained myself to see both sides.

We don't care if you are a liberal. And it's always good for anyone to be able to recognize that there are often differening opinons on most topics.

I'm socially liberal, but politically moderate.

Ok.

I have a conditioned irrational distaste for Conservativeness

wow. You do realize that this is a "politically and socially conservative" forum, right? And your 4th sentence in your INTRODUCTION ABOUT YOURSELF...is to express your distaste for most of the people here? That's certainly classy.

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however, I'm completely aware of this and I'm sure I'll overcome it eventually.


Maybe, but it's not my job to teach you some manners....I've already raised my children, and have no interest in someone else's child.

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I have a knack for pointing out logical fallacies

really?

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and giving tips on how to improve ones arguments

So nice of you to be so generous imparting your knowledge of debate. I'm sure everyone here, will be delighted to learn from you.

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don't take it as an insult,

Ah, but Grasshopper.....you already insulted the membership with your fourth sentence. tsk, tsk.

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it's merely constructive criticism.

Actually, so far you have merely demonstrated arrogance.

I, however, have given YOU, polite, yet constructive criticism, of your introductory post.

Others here....will just tell you to  :foff: .... and justifiably so, all because of how you presented yourself to us.


Oh...and FYI ...though I am a moderator here...this post was made as a long time member to a new member who appears to need a bit of an attitude adjustment in order to prevent a hostile environment. 






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Re: Hello there
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2011, 12:04:53 PM »

Welcome to CC.


If you feel you are being attacked, perhaps you should reread how you introduced yourself.

Congrats on working towards a degree. Education is a good thing. Many of our members have college degrees, and quite a few advanced degrees. Most of our members have years and years of experience in the work force.


I'm probably get accused of being a liberal several hundred times, as my passion is Debate, so I've trained myself to see both sides.

We don't care if you are a liberal. And it's always good for anyone to be able to recognize that there are often differening opinons on most topics.

I'm socially liberal, but politically moderate.

Ok.

I have a conditioned irrational distaste for Conservativeness

wow. You do realize that this is a "politically and socially conservative" forum, right? And your 4th sentence in your INTRODUCTION ABOUT YOURSELF...is to express your distaste for most of the people here? That's certainly classy.
 

Maybe, but it's not my job to teach you some manners....I've already raised my children, and have no interest in someone else's child.

really?

So nice of you to be so generous imparting your knowledge of debate. I'm sure everyone here, will be delighted to learn from you.

Ah, but Grasshopper.....you already insulted the membership with your fourth sentence. tsk, tsk.

Actually, so far you have merely demonstrated arrogance.

I, however, have given YOU, polite, yet constructive criticism, of your introductory post.

Others here....will just tell you to  :foff: .... and justifiably so, all because of how you presented yourself to us.


Oh...and FYI ...though I am a moderator here...this post was made as a long time member to a new member who appears to need a bit of an attitude adjustment in order to prevent a hostile environment. 



Oh debk you put that so nicely.....but unfortunately Yankees mistake polite, mannerly, genteel conversation and discussion for weakness and stupidity. Maybe I should enlighten our new friend that when southern ladies, and southern gentlemen for that matter, have suffered enough of their insufferable Yankee attitude, that scorn and fury the likes of which even hell has never seen will come down on his little ass.
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"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within."  Stalin

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Re: Hello there
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2011, 12:11:29 PM »
Oh debk you put that so nicely.....but unfortunately Yankees mistake polite, mannerly, genteel conversation and discussion for weakness and stupidity. Maybe I should enlighten our new friend that when southern ladies, and southern gentlemen for that matter, have suffered enough of their insufferable Yankee attitude, that scorn and fury the likes of which even hell has never seen will come down on his little ass.


I grew up in the midwest, so I'm neither Yankee or Southerner.  :tongue:

I'm polite, mannerly and genteel.... only up to a certain point. That point is considerably sharper when I encounter condescension and my intelligence is underestimated. :-)
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Re: Hello there
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2011, 12:12:00 PM »
My names Mike, I'm a Political Science major.
I'm probably get accused of being a liberal several hundred times, as my passion is Debate, so I've trained myself to see both sides.
I'm socially liberal, but politically moderate.
I have a conditioned irrational distaste for Conservativeness, however, I'm completely aware of this and I'm sure I'll overcome it eventually.

I have a knack for pointing out logical fallacies and giving tips on how to improve ones arguments, don't take it as an insult, it's merely constructive criticism.

You'll overcome it when you're actually out there working and see how much of your salary goes to sustain others who don't work.

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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2011, 12:45:03 PM »
You'll overcome it when you're actually out there working and see how much of your salary goes to sustain others who don't work.

Welcome!

He's a Poly-Sci major.  Do you think he'll ever get a job?   :tongue:

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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2011, 01:10:32 PM »
He's a Poly-Sci major.  Do you think he'll ever get a job?   :tongue:

Ooops! :-)
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Re: Hello there
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2011, 07:55:05 PM »
Hi Bertram,

Welcome, my name is Vesta.

Please accept my sincere condolenses that you were raised as orphaned.

You have done well to get into College with no family to teach you respect or civil deportment. Your future may be a bit hard as I do not think you could get a job as a Walmart greeter with your social skills.

Please pay no attention to some of the men here, they are a rough and rowdy group that were fighting off alligators in swamps before you were born.

It's some of us woman here that you need to tread carefully around, when we had kids like you, we spanked them and sent them to their room.

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Re: Hello there
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2011, 07:58:44 PM »
Hi Bertram,

Welcome, my name is Vesta.

Please accept my sincere condolenses that you were raised as orphaned.

You have done well to get into College with no family to teach you respect or civil deportment. Your future may be a bit hard as I do not think you could get a job as a Walmart greeter with your social skills.

Please pay no attention to some of the men here, they are a rough and rowdy group that were fighting off alligators in swamps before you were born.

It's some of us woman here that you need to tread carefully around, when we had kids like you, we spanked them and sent them to their room.

Vesta, that was pretty dang cool.  Hi5 for you.  :-)
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Re: Hello there
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2011, 08:09:13 PM »
My names Mike, I'm a Political Science major.
I'm probably get accused of being a liberal several hundred times, as my passion is Debate, so I've trained myself to see both sides.
I'm socially liberal, but politically moderate.
I have a conditioned irrational distaste for Conservativeness, however, I'm completely aware of this and I'm sure I'll overcome it eventually.

I have a knack for pointing out logical fallacies and giving tips on how to improve ones arguments, don't take it as an insult, it's merely constructive criticism.

Others have chimed in on your little introduction -- some more mannerly than others -- so I'm going to keep my "welcome" short and sweet.

**** off, grasshopper. Take your "conditioned irrational distaste" somewhere else, whether or not you're aware of it.

You wouldn't know constructive criticism if it spit in your face, so I'll just keep it uncivil -- maybe you'll understand that.

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Re: Hello there
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2011, 11:58:32 PM »
Hi Bertram,

Welcome, my name is Vesta.

Please accept my sincere condolenses that you were raised as orphaned.

You have done well to get into College with no family to teach you respect or civil deportment. Your future may be a bit hard as I do not think you could get a job as a Walmart greeter with your social skills.

Please pay no attention to some of the men here, they are a rough and rowdy group that were fighting off alligators in swamps before you were born.

It's some of us woman here that you need to tread carefully around, when we had kids like you, we spanked them and sent them to their room.

 :rotf: :rotf:HI5 indeed! 





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Re: Hello there
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2011, 01:37:12 AM »
Hi Bertram,

Welcome, my name is Vesta.

Please accept my sincere condolenses that you were raised as orphaned.

You have done well to get into College with no family to teach you respect or civil deportment. Your future may be a bit hard as I do not think you could get a job as a Walmart greeter with your social skills.

Please pay no attention to some of the men here, they are a rough and rowdy group that were fighting off alligators in swamps before you were born.

It's some of us woman here that you need to tread carefully around, when we had kids like you, we spanked them and sent them to their room.

H5 Vesta!
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Re: Hello there
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2011, 09:43:47 PM »

I grew up in the midwest, so I'm neither Yankee or Southerner.  :tongue:

I'm polite, mannerly and genteel.... only up to a certain point. That point is considerably sharper when I encounter condescension and my intelligence is underestimated. :-)

Vesta, that was pretty dang cool.  Hi5 for you.  Ditto.

"Midwest", Hmmm, let's see. Ohio, Iowa, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, Indiana... Yup, Yankee states all.


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