COMPLETELY UNCONSTITITIONAL!

[Firekrakka]

Speaking of freedoms

[Ptarmigan]

Must suck to live in a world where your idea of "liberty" and "defiance of terrorism" means "hide under your bed and hope the government protects you".

Since your lockdown shelter in place was completely voluntary, you can't even blame your Dem governor for ordering you inside. You chose to hide.

Baa.

Time to get the sheep dog.

[Ptarmigan]

Extreme violation of the 4th. All while the Obeezy Admin gives this turd burger his Miranda rights, free healthcare, etc, etc on our dime.

HE'S an enemy combatant, but our citizens aren't!!

Oh, and the spat with FL may have caused her to flee or something. Haven't seen her post in a couple days...

With such a heated issue though, there are bound to be very heavy disagreements.

That is so messed up. Like I said, had there been no lock down, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev would of been caught sooner.

[rich_t]

Of course you can read, Rich, that part isn't in question. But it is the determined and lawful jurisprudence of the judicial branch of our government to actually interpret the Constitution.

This is why I said earlier in this thread that it will be very interesting to see what kind of lawsuits that might come out of this very real threat to the 4th Amendment. Some lawyer or lawyers are going to question what was done and put it in front of a court for that court's interpretation of how that action did or did not violate the 4th Amendment or any other law on the books.

I contend that many of the problems concerning civil liberties and the governments usurpation of power not granted to it, is a direct result of liberal judges and yes even Supreme Court justices trying to "interpret" the Constitution instead of just reading it with an eye towards original intent.  IMO their job isn't to interpret the document.  They should be interpreting the law as written to see if the legislation conflicts with the very simple wording and meaning of the Constitution.

As I have already stated, the Constitution was written in the simple language of the day.  I am of the belief that our founders wrote it that way on purpose.  I believe they wanted it to be easily understood by the common laymen.

I find it very disconcerting that some SCOTUS justices have gone so far as to reference other country's laws when ruling on the Constitutionality of our own legislation.

I am sure that some may disagree and that is fine.  But these are my beliefs and I don't see them changing anytime soon.

[seahorse513]

In my opinion , doing what they did, locking down, asking people to stay in their home, and searches were totallly over the rim, for the whole of Boston. I mean, this guy's photo was all over the internet, somebody would have turned him in. He would have gotten hungry, his cell phone would have run out of charge. I refuse to live in a shoebox, because some little shit!! If I have to get a firearm, I will!!

[rich_t]

In my opinion , doing what they did, locking down, asking people to stay in their home, and searches were totallly over the rim, for the whole of Boston. I mean, this guy's photo was all over the internet, somebody would have turned him in. He would have gotten hungry, his cell phone would have run out of charge. I refuse to live in a shoebox, because some little shit!! If I have to get a firearm, I will!!

Amen Sister.  That is the sort of attitude that helped make this country so great.

[J P Sousa]

I contend that many of the problems concerning civil liberties and the governments usurpation of power not granted to it, is a direct result of liberal judges and yes even Supreme Court justices trying to "interpret" the Constitution instead of just reading it with an eye towards original intent.  IMO their job isn't to interpret the document.  They should be interpreting the law as written to see if the legislation conflicts with the very simple wording and meaning of the Constitution.

As I have already stated, the Constitution was written in the simple language of the day.  I am of the belief that our founders wrote it that way on purpose.  I believe they wanted it to be easily understood by the common laymen.

I find it very disconcerting that some SCOTUS justices have gone so far as to reference other country's laws when ruling on the Constitutionality of our own legislation.

I am sure that some may disagree and that is fine.  But these are my beliefs and I don't see them changing anytime soon.

I see NOTHING to disagree with sir. 
.

[Eupher]

I contend that many of the problems concerning civil liberties and the governments usurpation of power not granted to it, is a direct result of liberal judges and yes even Supreme Court justices trying to "interpret" the Constitution instead of just reading it with an eye towards original intent.  IMO their job isn't to interpret the document.  They should be interpreting the law as written to see if the legislation conflicts with the very simple wording and meaning of the Constitution.

As I have already stated, the Constitution was written in the simple language of the day.  I am of the belief that our founders wrote it that way on purpose.  I believe they wanted it to be easily understood by the common laymen.

I find it very disconcerting that some SCOTUS justices have gone so far as to reference other country's laws when ruling on the Constitutionality of our own legislation.

I am sure that some may disagree and that is fine.  But these are my beliefs and I don't see them changing anytime soon.

Well said, sir. Especially the part about SCOTUS hanging their hats on other laws outside the jurisdiction of the U.S.

H5.

[CG6468]

I see NOTHING to disagree with sir. 

Nor do I.

[Lacarnut]

I seriously doubt that this door to door search would have happened in a rich neighborhoods or God forbid in a Muslim community. No frigging way. I still think Obummer and Homeland security was just itching to see if they could pull off a military operation like this in city full of liberal softies. They got their answer that is okay to stomp on citizens rights. The dumb shits even clapped for the cops. The use of brute military style force by the police was something I would expect to see in a commie country but not here. Even if they had permission from each homeowner, the sorry bastards did not have the right to point rifles at civilians that had no weapons and posed no threat. Anyone that says that they did not drawn down on civilians is either FOS or needs glasses. I hope those that got the shit scared out of them file lawsuits.  

[Firekrakka]

The dumb shits even clapped for the cops.

I saw that and was incredulous! 

[Ptarmigan]

I seriously doubt that this door to door search would have happened in a rich neighborhoods or God forbid in a Muslim community. No frigging way. I still think Obummer and Homeland security was just itching to see if they could pull off a military operation like this in city full of liberal softies. They got their answer that is okay to stomp on citizens rights. The dumb shits even clapped for the cops. The use of brute military style force by the police was something I would expect to see in a commie country but not here. Even if they had permission from each homeowner, the sorry bastards did not have the right to point rifles at civilians that had no weapons and posed no threat. Anyone that says that they did not drawn down on civilians is either FOS or needs glasses. I hope those that got the shit scared out of them file lawsuits.  

That was really out of line. Than again leftists want the government to do everything for them.

[Conservative Libertarian]

That was really out of line. Than again leftists want the government to do everything for them.

Well...Liberals do smell bad because the government didn't wipe their butts for them.

[Lacarnut]

That was really out of line. Than again leftists want the government to do everything for them.

What the gestapo police did was out of line IMO.

[Big Dog]

FL doesn't flee from anything, Rev. I'm sure she's busy IRL.

She never came back.

[Eupher]

She never came back.

You mean she hasn't come back yet.

Trust me, she'll be back.

[txradioguy]

Holy Necroposting Batman! 

[Big Dog]

Holy Necroposting Batman! 

It wasn't dead. It was pinin' for the fjords.