Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party

[Conservative Libertarian]

formerlurker,

It is obvious that you are an asshole Paulbot.

[formerlurker]

Conservatives have destroyed themselves by voting for a liberal to destroy a moderate

Again, it's like whistling in a graveyard.

[formerlurker]

formerlurker,

It is obvious that you are an asshole Paulbot.

Of course I am.   You with all those clues. 

[Dacabeti]

Own it dac, all those sour anti-GOP "conservatives" voted for Obama

I proudly own my vote. I voted for Virgil Goode the only Conservative that was running in the end.

Now you own the GOP putting up yet another Liberal to run against a Liberal.

[Dacabeti]

Of course I am.   You with all those clues.  

Hi Cam

[Dacabeti]

I know another nigga named Moses. If you did not vote for Romney, how is that shit sandwich tasting.

And then the Racist Paulbot shows his true colors

[Conservative Libertarian]

Hi Cam

I wonder if he brought his boyfriend with him?

[Dacabeti]

I wonder if he brought his boyfriend with him?

Of Course; can't you tell by the way the 2 are backing each other buttpluging up? Its the racist pedophile Cam his ropesmoking boyfriend.

[Conservative Libertarian]

Of Course; can't you tell by the way the 2 are backing each other buttpluging up? Its the racist pedophile Cam his ropesmoking boyfriend.

 

[5412]

Conservatives have destroyed themselves by voting for a liberal to destroy a moderate

Hi,

That is fiction.  I have no idea where you got that information.  I am very involved with the Tea Party and also a local Republican Club.  We gritted our teeth and voted for Romney because BO is our biggest enemy.

You come off to me as just another person trying to destroy the conservatives for things they did not do.

5412

[txradioguy]

Own it dac, all those sour anti-GOP "conservatives" voted for Obama

And you voted for who exactly?

[formerlurker]

Hi Cam

Oh for fun, for fun.   

[formerlurker]

Hi,

That is fiction.  I have no idea where you got that information.  I am very involved with the Tea Party and also a local Republican Club.  We gritted our teeth and voted for Romney because BO is our biggest enemy.

You come off to me as just another person trying to destroy the conservatives for things they did not do.

5412

There are a lot of conservatives who stayed home and did not vote, some of which post here.   

[Lacarnut]

We all know that you are the only one that posts here that has a clue.

 

Right. He/she/it has that same belief system as Romney and his Yankee political brethren. Soft on abortion, flip flop on queer marriage, health care and a me too RINO agenda. No wonder conservatives stayed at home. Many could not stomach his liberalism. If they have to vote for Democrat lite, the same thing will happen in 016.

People like Rove and his rich elite donors despise Palin, Bachman, West and any Tea Party candidate that does not buckle under. These RNC & Romney dimwits made a bad mistake when they cut Palin out of the convention. It looks like they will try to highjack the nomination again.

[J P Sousa]

Right. He/she/it has that same belief system as Romney and his Yankee political brethren. Soft on abortion, flip flop on queer marriage, health care and a me too RINO agenda. No wonder conservatives stayed at home. Many could not stomach his liberalism. If they have to vote for Democrat lite, the same thing will happen in 016.

People like Rove and his rich elite donors despise Palin, Bachman, West and any Tea Party candidate that does not buckle under. These RNC & Romney dimwits made a bad mistake when they cut Palin out of the convention. It looks like they will try to highjack the nomination again.

Well they do seem "bent" on destroying conservatives at ANY cost.
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[BigTex]

1976
Republicans voting for Carter: 11%
Conservatives for voting Carter: 30%



1980
Republicans voting for Carter: 11%
Conservatives voting for Carter: 23%



1984
Republicans voting for Mondale: 7%
Conservatives voting for Mondale: 18%



1988
Republicans voting for Dukakis: 8%
Conservatives voting for Dukakis: 19%



1992
Republicans voting for Clinton: 10%
Conservatives voting for Clinton: 18%



1996
Republicans voting for Clinton: 13%
Conservatives voting for Clinton: 20%



2000:
Republicans voting for Gore: 8%
Conservatives voting for Gore: 17%



2004
Republicans voting for Kerry 6%
Conservatives voting for Kerry 16%



2008
Republicans voting for Obama: 9%
Conservatives voting for Obma: 20%



http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/presidential/presidential_election.html

"conservatives" ALWAYS vote more liberal than republicans. You wanted liberals you got them, now you have to own it instead of blaming other people.

[Ptarmigan]

Republican is a political party like Democrats. Political party and ideology are not always related. There will be liberal Republican or conservative Democrats. The lower percentage of Republicans voting for a Republican president is that they are more likely to vote due to political party affiliation.

[txradioguy]

1976
Republicans voting for Carter: 11%
Conservatives for voting Carter: 30%



1980
Republicans voting for Carter: 11%
Conservatives voting for Carter: 23%



1984
Republicans voting for Mondale: 7%
Conservatives voting for Mondale: 18%



1988
Republicans voting for Dukakis: 8%
Conservatives voting for Dukakis: 19%



1992
Republicans voting for Clinton: 10%
Conservatives voting for Clinton: 18%



1996
Republicans voting for Clinton: 13%
Conservatives voting for Clinton: 20%



2000:
Republicans voting for Gore: 8%
Conservatives voting for Gore: 17%



2004
Republicans voting for Kerry 6%
Conservatives voting for Kerry 16%



2008
Republicans voting for Obama: 9%
Conservatives voting for Obma: 20%



http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/presidential/presidential_election.html

"conservatives" ALWAYS vote more liberal than republicans. You wanted liberals you got them, now you have to own it instead of blaming other people.

Do you have a link to any of this to back up your assertion?  Other than a Libtard site like The Roper Center?

And again...who did you vote for this last election?

[5412]

Really - you and those who share the same values as you hold the positions that vote for candidates in the party, and sets the party platform, and you will be so easily influenced by outside factors?  

Excuses.   Excuses.  Excuses.   It's all you have.

Hi,

What's with the excuses stuff?  The local Republican club is a gathering of like minded people who have candidates come and speak and then they produce bulletins for the membership.  We try to make our voices heard in the party but have little say so.

How is telling the facts interpreted into making excuses?

The facts are the leadership of the republican party is opposed to conservative candidates. 

I just ran some numbers for an article I am writing.  Since 1950, there have been exactly two years that our national debt has not grown year over year.  Most people think it was under Clinton but it is not correct, it was in 1956 & 1957.  That crap has to stop.

Since Obama was elected the debt cieling has been raised 5 times.  That crap has to stop.  Neither of the two items I mentioned would not happen if their was not some republican support.

The mainstream republicans are protecting their turf just like the libs.  So our conservative choices are as follows:  1. Start a third party which is likely to accomplish one thing, continued liberal government at a faster pace.  or 2) Get the old line republican leadership to get their head out of their butts and seek out and find good conservative candidates that give the voter a real honest choice.


You are coming off to me as a liberal.  If you cannot refute the message, attack the messenger.  I'm not buying that at all.

regards,
5412

[Lacarnut]

"conservatives" ALWAYS vote more liberal than republicans. You wanted liberals you got them, now you have to own it instead of blaming other people.

What a bunch of horsesh!t. Why don't you answer Txradio question?????????????????????

[txradioguy]

What a bunch of horsesh!t. Why don't you answer Txradio question?????????????????????

 

[formerlurker]

Hi,

What's with the excuses stuff?  The local Republican club is a gathering of like minded people who have candidates come and speak and then they produce bulletins for the membership.  We try to make our voices heard in the party but have little say so.

Stop right there.   This is where you are dead wrong.   The National party platform is dictated by those who are elected to delegates from the local level.    The libertarians know this, and did a run on those elections in an attempt to secure those seats.   Why?  because they recognize their numbers are too small to win the presidency, or even Congress on their own.   The real conservatives, instead of working heard to secure those seats have pretty much just given up.  

Of course, what I am trying to get you to understand (and it is taking far too long - and it is what BigTex is clearly pointly out to no avail) is that "real conservatives" are also too small in number to be a party, and secure more than just a handful of seats.    

You are therefore NEVER going to get that perfect candidate that represents your belief system in its entirety.   The party is comprised of the entire spectrum of beliefs from the middle to the far right.    It is those local candidates with the loudest voice that is dictating the platform, and please note - they work damn hard to do so.  Damn hard.

How is telling the facts interpreted into making excuses?

They aren't facts.  They are excuses.   Someone else is always to blame.  That someone being individuals who are actually working very hard to have their voice heard.

The facts are the leadership of the republican party is opposed to conservative candidates.  

The leadership is elected by local delegates.   They represent those who work the hardest to have their voice heard.  Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

I just ran some numbers for an article I am writing.  Since 1950, there have been exactly two years that our national debt has not grown year over year.  Most people think it was under Clinton but it is not correct, it was in 1956 & 1957.  That crap has to stop.

So get busy.

Since Obama was elected the debt cieling has been raised 5 times.  That crap has to stop.  Neither of the two items I mentioned would not happen if their was not some republican support.

So get busy.

The mainstream republicans are protecting their turf just like the libs.  So our conservative choices are as follows:  1. Start a third party which is likely to accomplish one thing, continued liberal government at a faster pace.  or 2) Get the old line republican leadership to get their head out of their butts and seek out and find good conservative candidates that give the voter a real honest choice.

Get busy - but you can't negate what BigTex is telling you.  You are small in numbers, you therefore will never fully dictate a pure conservative platform.  

You are coming off to me as a liberal.  If you cannot refute the message, attack the messenger.  I'm not buying that at all.

Nah, that is others are doing here with their sophomoric attacks - which interestingly, since you agree with them you don't call them out on it.  

For fun kids.

[USA4ME]

Read through this thread the last couple of days.

I am a conservative.

I am registered as a Republican because they, at one time, represented my conservative viewpoints.

However, I will not vote for someone strictly because they have an "R" next to their name.  I did that with McCain and I said never again.  Romney had a conservative business mind which I viewed as most important in this last election.

But if the Republicans put up candidates in presidential elections that are less than conservative, I just won't vote for anyone for president.  I'm certainly not going to vote for a liberal.  The only "conservatives" who vote for Democrats are liberals who mistakenly consider themselves to be conservatives.

Now there are those who say that they'll vote for the most conservative, even if that most conservative candidate is really a moderate liberal or a liberal-lite.  I'm not going to do that.  The accusations that not voting at all is a vote for the more liberal candidate will come from some, but I don't care.

At least where I'm living the local and state Republican candidates are conservative, so I'll place my vote for them.  But as a party, if the Republicans aren't going to be conservative, then in national elections they won't get my support.  They figure this out, I and many others will come back.  Maybe we are too small of a group and they'll ignore us.  In the meanwhile, they can wander around in the wilderness trying to figure out why they can't win the WH, when they could have taken that time too get their mind right and to be real conservatives.

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[wasp69]

What a bunch of horsesh!t. Why don't you answer Txradio question?????????????????????

Don't waste your time, you're dealing with a "Republican" that thinks it's time to abolish the Electoral College system.  I doubt you'll get anything more intelligent than "hur durr" if he ever responds.

[Lacarnut]

Stop right there.   This is where you are dead wrong.   The National party platform is dictated by those who are elected to delegates from the local level.    The libertarians know this, and did a run on those elections in an attempt to secure those seats.   Why?  because they recognize their numbers are too small to win the presidency, or even Congress on their own.   The real conservatives, instead of working heard to secure those seats have pretty much just given up.  

Of course, what I am trying to get you to understand (and it is taking far too long - and it is what BigTex is clearly pointly out to no avail) is that "real conservatives" are also too small in number to be a party, and secure more than just a handful of seats.    

You are therefore NEVER going to get that perfect candidate that represents your belief system in its entirety.   The party is comprised of the entire spectrum of beliefs from the middle to the far right.    It is those local candidates with the loudest voice that is dictating the platform, and please note - they work damn hard to do so.  Damn hard.

So much BS; so little time to refute a MA RINO,

First of all, I could care less what northeastern delegates to the convention run on or think. Conservatives are never going to win that state. RINO's just muddy the waters with their vile social policies like abortion, queer marriage, gun control and drug legalization. We have not even gotten to the increase in spending, debt, entitlement and foreign policies that almost mirror Obama to a T.

Secondly, in order to win the Presidency, it take lots of money, good organization and an opposing view on many issues that the Democrats embrace. Romney lost cause he had a me too attitude in the 2 and 3 debates. Plus, many conservatives stayed home cause they did not believe the Romney flip flop transformation.

Thirdly, the elite rich Repubs do not want a candidate who stands for God, Country and a return to morality in private and public. They would rather lose than have someone like Palin become the next President. I do not know what is so hard for dimwit Yankees/RINO's to understand.

I bet you or Big guy would not vote for Palin. However, you expect me to stomach liberal social and economic policies. No thanks. Put up a candidate like McCain or Romney and I will stay home. That shit sandwich left a bad taste in my mouth the last two elections.

Lastly, Rove and the other jerks better not wage war on Tea Party candidated cause their next hand picked candidate for the President will get slaughter worse than Romney.