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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #50 on: February 10, 2013, 08:56:20 AM »
PAC:   We need to raise more money to get our message out on these candidates we believe in.  

RC: I am not giving "them" my money until "they" give me a real conservative candidate.    I want a candidate who is this, this and they sure as hell better be this.  

PAC: Ok then.  Next.

RC:  "They" are ruining this country with RINOs.

PAC:  Thank you donors for your donations... we agree these candidates have the best shot at winning.

RC:   :bawl:  I won't vote.   I will stay home.    :bawl:

DNC:  Hey I know he hasn't delivered on 99.999% of the promises he made, but he is a (D) so vote vote vote today!!

Election Day:   Barrack Hussein Obama is the winnah!!

DNC:  Of course he is,   HOORAY!!

PAC:   We need to raise more money for these candidates.

RC:  I am not giving "them" my money until "they" give me a real conservative candidate...

Wash.  Rinse. Repeat.  
 
We the people need to find a candidate who represents our values and can win.....it's just that "we" don't mean "me" to RC.  



Hi,

Nice try. There is an old saying, when you continue with the same type of behavior, expect the same result.  While that is the implication of this, there is several fatal flaws.  

Reagan was Conservative, when Bush ran we thought he was conservative at the time.

The second flaw in your presentation is this.  I seriously doubt any of us who are complaining about RINO's sat out the election, we voted against BO and everything he stands for.  We feel if we had a true conservative we would have won the election.

Voting for a RINO is one thing, financially supporting the party who does not represent our views is something else.

Name one republican president who has been elected since Reagan who was known to be a RINO before the election?  Why would a person vote for a RINO, if they want Santa Claus they can vote for the real thing.

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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #51 on: February 10, 2013, 10:23:11 AM »
Hi,

Nice try. There is an old saying, when you continue with the same type of behavior, expect the same result.  While that is the implication of this, there is several fatal flaws.  

Reagan was Conservative, when Bush ran we thought he was conservative at the time.

The second flaw in your presentation is this.  I seriously doubt any of us who are complaining about RINO's sat out the election, we voted against BO and everything he stands for.  We feel if we had a true conservative we would have won the election.

Voting for a RINO is one thing, financially supporting the party who does not represent our views is something else.

Name one republican president who has been elected since Reagan who was known to be a RINO before the election?  Why would a person vote for a RINO, if they want Santa Claus they can vote for the real thing.

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We knewthat  Romney was a RINO before the election--he lost. We knew that McCain was a RINO before the election--he lost. You would think that the RNC would at least shove a candidate at us that is not an obvious RINO. The RNC has made their choice. They think Dem-lite RINOs are the way to win elections and if they don't win, it's the fault of the Conservatives within the party. In their arogant monds, it could never be their own stupidity of turning their backs on Conservatives.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #52 on: February 10, 2013, 11:11:39 AM »
Hi,

Nice try. There is an old saying, when you continue with the same type of behavior, expect the same result.  While that is the implication of this, there is several fatal flaws.  

Reagan was Conservative, when Bush ran we thought he was conservative at the time.

The second flaw in your presentation is this.  I seriously doubt any of us who are complaining about RINO's sat out the election, we voted against BO and everything he stands for.  We feel if we had a true conservative we would have won the election.

Voting for a RINO is one thing, financially supporting the party who does not represent our views is something else.

Name one republican president who has been elected since Reagan who was known to be a RINO before the election?  Why would a person vote for a RINO, if they want Santa Claus they can vote for the real thing.

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Oh but there are RC who stay home, which is why the messiah was granted a second term.

You missed the entire point of my post.   You are the we the people.  You are the one who participates in the same exercise election after election, yet fully expect others to change the script.


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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #53 on: February 10, 2013, 11:13:12 AM »
We knewthat  Romney was a RINO before the election--he lost. We knew that McCain was a RINO before the election--he lost. You would think that the RNC would at least shove a candidate at us that is not an obvious RINO. The RNC has made their choice. They think Dem-lite RINOs are the way to win elections and if they don't win, it's the fault of the Conservatives within the party. In their arogant monds, it could never be their own stupidity of turning their backs on Conservatives.

You realize that the RNC serves at the pleasure of its membership.

No, actually it's clear you don't see that.   

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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #54 on: February 10, 2013, 11:17:41 AM »
Hell even the loony tunes Libertarians know how to change the system.  They failed last time around, but they aren't going to stop trying. 

RC? Let others do the work.  Now who does that sound like...

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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #55 on: February 10, 2013, 11:27:03 AM »
You realize that the RNC serves at the pleasure of its membership.

No, actually it's clear you don't see that.   

Yes, I do understand that. Real Conservatives are leaving the party and leaving it to the Dem-lites that control it--i.e. the membership that rejected real Conservatives.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #56 on: February 10, 2013, 12:34:54 PM »
Rove is a liar like most politicians and has an ego to match. When asked about why spending under Bush escalated, he comes up with these charts and percentages that are mind boggling. DC insiders are so out of touch with the average American. As long as we have people like him having an influence on the Repub. party, we are in deep shit. The RINO and Yankee establishment would rather have a liberal win an election than a Tea Party candidate. That way they at least retain a piece of the pie where Palin or a Tea Party candidate might kick  their ass to the curb.

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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #57 on: February 10, 2013, 12:35:38 PM »
Hannity is about as conservative as Karl Rove, only Hannity claims that he supports the Tea Party.
The reality is Hannity will support anyone with an R next to their name.



Sometimes I listen to Hannity. He can be real annoying.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #58 on: February 10, 2013, 12:37:18 PM »
Sometimes I listen to Hannity. He can be real annoying.
He does a good job during election season.  The rest of the year, I can't really listen to him.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #59 on: February 10, 2013, 12:43:49 PM »
Yes, I do understand that. Real Conservatives are leaving the party and leaving it to the Dem-lites that control it--i.e. the membership that rejected real Conservatives.

RC leave the party because they don't want to do the work to change it.   Really is a sad day when the Libertarians have more of a clue than the RCs.


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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #60 on: February 10, 2013, 12:54:48 PM »
RC leave the party because they don't want to do the work to change it.   Really is a sad day when the Libertarians have more of a clue than the RCs.



After awhile, people get sick of dealing with idiots and move one to other places. This has gone on so long, there is little hope for the Conservatives to ever be truly welcome in the Republican party. All the RINO's want (EXPECT) from us is our vote. they refuse to give anything in return for it.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #61 on: February 10, 2013, 12:58:59 PM »
After awhile, people get sick of dealing with idiots and move one to other places. This has gone on so long, there is little hope for the Conservatives to ever be truly welcome in the Republican party. All the RINO's want (EXPECT) from us is our vote. they refuse to give anything in return for it.

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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #62 on: February 10, 2013, 12:59:40 PM »
After awhile, people get sick of dealing with idiots and move one to other places. This has gone on so long, there is little hope for the Conservatives to ever be truly welcome in the Republican party. All the RINO's want (EXPECT) from us is our vote. they refuse to give anything in return for it.

 :banghead: <---- honest to the good Lord.   You actually think there is this group of "they" who make ALL the decisions.  

How about you actually look into how the Republican platform is developed?   All politics are local.   All politics are local.

ALL POLITICS ARE LOCAL.

You poor helpless Real Conservatives.  Those big bag "they" RINOs bullying you again?  


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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #63 on: February 10, 2013, 01:07:03 PM »
:banghead: <---- honest to the good Lord.   You actually think there is this group of "they" who make ALL the decisions. 

How about you actually look into how the Republican platform is developed?   All politics are local.   All politics are local.

ALL POLITICS ARE LOCAL.

You poor helpless Real Conservatives.  Those big bag "they" RINOs bullying you again? 



They are not just Bullying COnservatives. They have actually declared war on Conservatives with Karl Rove at the front of the charge. Now, after this, please tell me why REAL conservatives should ever trust these creatures.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #64 on: February 10, 2013, 01:35:10 PM »
THE PARABLE OF THE SHIT SANDWICH

Once upon a time, there was a clear-eyed, strong-hearted young man named Jack who lived in the wilderness. Jack was very hungry. Wherever Jack looked, he could not find nourishment, so he grew hungrier and hungrier.

One day, a man came to the wilderness and offered Jack a sandwich. He said it was a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. The sandwich didn't smell like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich- it smelled like shit. So Jack opened the sandwich and saw it was made with 51% crusty old shit, and 49% grape jelly. Jack refused to eat the shit sandwich.

The man asked, "Why do you refuse to eat this sandwich? Aren't you hungry?"

Jack said, "I am hungry, but I refuse to eat a shit sandwich."

The man replied, "Well, you had better eat it, because the only other man in this wilderness who has sandwiches is selling pure shit with no grape jelly, and you wouldn't want that!" He then took his finger and scraped off a little bit of shit, and told Jack, "Now it's 49% shit and 51% grape jelly, so it's not a shit sandwich anymore. It's a jelly sandwich, and you had better eat it, because the other guy's sandwich is much worse."

But Jack was not so easily fooled. He decided he'd rather be hungry than take the man's shit. He told the man to roll up his shit sandwich into a little ball and stick it up his ass, and Jack lived happier ever after.

The moral of the story is... do I really need to spell it out for you?

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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #65 on: February 10, 2013, 01:44:46 PM »
THE PARABLE OF THE SHIT SANDWICH

Once upon a time, there was a clear-eyed, strong-hearted young man named Jack who lived in the wilderness. Jack was very hungry. Wherever Jack looked, he could not find nourishment, so he grew hungrier and hungrier.

One day, a man came to the wilderness and offered Jack a sandwich. He said it was a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. The sandwich didn't smell like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich- it smelled like shit. So Jack opened the sandwich and saw it was made with 51% crusty old shit, and 49% grape jelly. Jack refused to eat the shit sandwich.

The man asked, "Why do you refuse to eat this sandwich? Aren't you hungry?"

Jack said, "I am hungry, but I refuse to eat a shit sandwich."

The man replied, "Well, you had better eat it, because the only other man in this wilderness who has sandwiches is selling pure shit with no grape jelly, and you wouldn't want that!" He then took his finger and scraped off a little bit of shit, and told Jack, "Now it's 49% shit and 51% grape jelly, so it's not a shit sandwich anymore. It's a jelly sandwich, and you had better eat it, because the other guy's sandwich is much worse."

But Jack was not so easily fooled. He decided he'd rather be hungry than take the man's shit. He told the man to roll up his shit sandwich into a little ball and stick it up his ass, and Jack lived happier ever after.

The moral of the story is... do I really need to spell it out for you?



You mean Jack died of starvation
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #66 on: February 10, 2013, 01:52:26 PM »
You mean Jack died of starvation

If the choice was to eat shit or die, Jack knew what he would do. As General John Stark said, "Live free or die. Death is not the worst of evils."
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #67 on: February 10, 2013, 01:57:58 PM »
THE PARABLE OF THE SHIT SANDWICH

Once upon a time, there was a clear-eyed, strong-hearted young man named Jack who lived in the wilderness. Jack was very hungry. Wherever Jack looked, he could not find nourishment, so he grew hungrier and hungrier.

One day, a man came to the wilderness and offered Jack a sandwich. He said it was a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. The sandwich didn't smell like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich- it smelled like shit. So Jack opened the sandwich and saw it was made with 51% crusty old shit, and 49% grape jelly. Jack refused to eat the shit sandwich.

The man asked, "Why do you refuse to eat this sandwich? Aren't you hungry?"

Jack said, "I am hungry, but I refuse to eat a shit sandwich."

The man replied, "Well, you had better eat it, because the only other man in this wilderness who has sandwiches is selling pure shit with no grape jelly, and you wouldn't want that!" He then took his finger and scraped off a little bit of shit, and told Jack, "Now it's 49% shit and 51% grape jelly, so it's not a shit sandwich anymore. It's a jelly sandwich, and you had better eat it, because the other guy's sandwich is much worse."

But Jack was not so easily fooled. He decided he'd rather be hungry than take the man's shit. He told the man to roll up his shit sandwich into a little ball and stick it up his ass, and Jack lived happier ever after.

The moral of the story is... do I really need to spell it out for you?



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Democrats are great at eating shit sandwiches. They even thinkthat they are steak if the DNC says so. I'm no Democrat and I refuse to eat shit sandwiches prepared by the RNC (DNC-lite).
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #68 on: February 10, 2013, 02:51:11 PM »
You mean Jack died of starvation

Jack would rather someone get him a sandwich of his liking.

Jack believes the only two men in the wilderness story by the way.

Poor Jack.


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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #69 on: February 10, 2013, 02:53:11 PM »
H^5

Democrats are great at eating shit sandwiches. They even thinkthat they are steak if the DNC says so. I'm no Democrat and I refuse to eat shit sandwiches prepared by the RNC (DNC-lite).

Bullies.  Someone should write an exposé on THEM. 

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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #70 on: February 10, 2013, 03:07:00 PM »
Bullies.  Someone should write an exposé on THEM. 

The RNC presidential candidates worked out really well in 2008 and 2012 didn't they?
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #71 on: February 10, 2013, 03:15:57 PM »
The RNC presidential candidates worked out really well in 2008 and 2012 didn't they?

I know.  THEY are a bunch of assholes.

Just one question (as the point eludes you), who exactly is they?

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« Reply #72 on: February 10, 2013, 06:32:40 PM »
I know.  THEY are a bunch of assholes.

Just one question (as the point eludes you), who exactly is they?

If one were to follow the logic of the sentences presented in this thread, you would know that 'THEY' are the RNC and their worthless RINO Presidential candidates.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #73 on: February 10, 2013, 06:34:29 PM »
We knewthat  Romney was a RINO before the election--he lost. We knew that McCain was a RINO before the election--he lost. You would think that the RNC would at least shove a candidate at us that is not an obvious RINO. The RNC has made their choice. They think Dem-lite RINOs are the way to win elections and if they don't win, it's the fault of the Conservatives within the party. In their arogant monds, it could never be their own stupidity of turning their backs on Conservatives.

Hi,

Totally understand and agree with you.  I will be damned if I am going to send a dime to any of these clowns when they do not represent me and my views.

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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #74 on: February 10, 2013, 07:01:58 PM »
If one were to follow the logic of the sentences presented in this thread, you would know that 'THEY' are the RNC and their worthless RINO Presidential candidates.

I had this crazy idea that it was the 10 million voters who voted for Romney in the GOP primaries that made him the nominee
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