Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party

[Lacarnut]

NO.  The delegates are the ones who VOTE at the local and national level for these candidates.   They are NOT bought off by those with deep-pockets (and if they are then I am missing a freaking payment  ).

THEY control the process.   THEY control who gets the nomination.   THEY control the platform.

THEY = YOU.  

Of course, the smoking man thinks you have said too much... so listen for those helicopters...



For a Yankee, you are dense. Money talks and bullshit walks. That is how it works in National politics including Congress and the Presidency. Idealism like yours may work for the local dog catcher but not that far beyond.

[Conservative Libertarian]

And not suprisingly, none of the Pro-RINOs in this thread have directly answered my question. Why should the Tea Party Conservatives trust the RNC and their candidates after publically declaring war on us?

All that I got was a twisting of my own post into anti-Tea Party BS citing that the Tea Party had declared war on everyone else. Of course, the RINO forgot to mention the 2+prior election cycles where the Conservatives had supported their RINO candidates only to be rejected after the establishment RNC candidates received their votes. These RINOs refuse to see their own double-crossing hypocracy. No wonder they are no different than Democraps.

[5412]

And not suprisingly, none of the Pro-RINOs in this thread have directly answered my question. Why should the Tea Party Conservatives trust the RNC and their candidates after publically declaring war on us?

All that I got was a twisting of my own post into anti-Tea Party BS citing that the Tea Party had declared war on everyone else. Of course, the RINO forgot to mention the 2+prior election cycles where the Conservatives had supported their RINO candidates only to be rejected after the establishment RNC candidates received their votes. These RINOs refuse to see their own double-crossing hypocracy. No wonder they are no different than Democraps.

Hi,

I'm with you on this one.  I'd love to believe all politics are local; however there is tons of money poured into Iowa and the early primaries from outside the state.  What that does is cull the field very early due to economics.  By that time the hand picked candidates have momentum and the others drop out out due to economics.  Then by the time the primary gets to the rest of us we have to choose the lesser of the two republican evils. 

My point is all politics used to be local.  If it still was, how come there is so much outside money dumped into the early primaries?

What really is frustrating is this.  If a conservative tries to hang in there, he is destroyed by the national republican party because the fight for the nomination hurts all the candidates.  By the time they get the nomination a lot of money is already gone and damage is done.  Unfortunately, or it may turn out to be fortunately, the RINO's have to continue to lose until they finally give up and wake up.  By that time there will be so much damage done by the liberals there will be little left to salvage.

regards,
5412

[txradioguy]

And not suprisingly, none of the Pro-RINOs in this thread have directly answered my question. Why should the Tea Party Conservatives trust the RNC and their candidates after publically declaring war on us?

Given how the RNC treated candidates this last election cycle and the noises Karl Rove is making now...the TEA Party and Conservatives in genereal need to put as much distance between themselves and the establishment GOP as possible.

[J P Sousa]

Hi,

Having attended several tea party rallies I can say this to you.  You have no clue what the tea party is all about.  You are brainwashed by the media. 

The other night I was at a dinner and a bright young woman tore into the tea party and what they stood for.  I listened then politely corrected her by saying that TEA stood for "Taxed Enough Already".  Our message was simple, stop the spending, stop the incessant taxes, and get back to what the constitution stands for.    We are against big government and all that believe in that.

When I finsished, she was dumbfounded and said, "Well I believe in those things too."  I then followed up by suggesting that it was both democrats and republicans, coupled with the complicit media, that made the term tea party the most negative term in politics.  We are a threat to all of them.

Does the Tea Party have some candidates that say stupid things?  Of course, and they deserve to lose when they do.  Then again let's look at Pelosi, Waters and Biden for stupid stuff.  Why don't they get villified by the media when they say stupid stuff all the time?

If one candidate says something stupid, you ask why you should vote for them.....you probably shouldn't.  I do draw one major distinction.  While you may not agree with his position, nor do I, at least he was honest.  Seems to me that the RINO's and libs both lie to get nominated and elected, then govern as they wish.

As long as you are going to let the media shape your views, you will continue to sound like the "low information voter" which is the typical liberal lemming.  Perhaps that is why you don't fare well on this forum, most here are inclined to see through the BS and look at the facts.

5412

HI-5
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[J P Sousa]

I'd like to make a couple observations;

#1- Harry Reid was ENDORSED by republican leaders.

#2- Bain Capital gave $2 million to Romney (to "kill" his primary opponents) but also $4.5 million to Democratic campaigns and causes

What does the RNC stand for again ? I'm having trouble seeing a difference...........
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[J P Sousa]

Hi,

I'm with you on this one.  I'd love to believe all politics are local; however there is tons of money poured into Iowa and the early primaries from outside the state.  What that does is cull the field very early due to economics.  By that time the hand picked candidates have momentum and the others drop out out due to economics.  Then by the time the primary gets to the rest of us we have to choose the lesser of the two republican evils. 

My point is all politics used to be local.  If it still was, how come there is so much outside money dumped into the early primaries?

What really is frustrating is this.  If a conservative tries to hang in there, he is destroyed by the national republican party because the fight for the nomination hurts all the candidates.  By the time they get the nomination a lot of money is already gone and damage is done.  Unfortunately, or it may turn out to be fortunately, the RINO's have to continue to lose until they finally give up and wake up.  By that time there will be so much damage done by the liberals there will be little left to salvage.

regards,
5412

It isn't just the "National" party, I witnessed this happening at the "local" level as well. BTW: In my county the "state committee persons" were essentially chosen by the County Chairman and in turn the National committee persons by the STATE chairman. Sure there have been attempts to go against the chairmen but with VERY LIMITED results.

It's sad but unless there is an "outside" movement like the TEA PARTY, things pretty much stay the same.........in the hands of the "professional" politicians. Damn, I just depressed myself. 
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[Lacarnut]

That is not what we want. We have stated what that is and you went out of your way to ignore it.

Were you born an asshole or have you been working on it your whole life?

She is in the law profession; so, that speaks volumes.

[BigTex]

Obtuse much?

Ignorant much?

[BigTex]

but you are going to have a hard time selling your shit sandwich to us out here in the wilderness- as the last election proved.

The last election proved that "conservatives" and the tea party are willing to vote for Obama to spite the republican party

Republicans that voted for Obama: 6%
Tea Party that voted for Obama: 11%
Conservatives that voted for Obama: 17%

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2012-exit-poll

Obama is your shit sandwich now you have to eat it.

[docstew]

The last election proved that "conservatives" and the tea party are willing to vote for Obama to spite the republican party

Republicans that voted for Obama: 6%
Tea Party that voted for Obama: 11%
Conservatives that voted for Obama: 17%

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2012-exit-poll

Obama is your shit sandwich now you have to eat it.

Your source is an exit poll? And no one ever lies on those. EVER. 

[Dacabeti]

The last election proved that "conservatives" and the tea party are willing to vote for Obama to spite the republican party

Republicans that voted for Obama: 6%
Tea Party that voted for Obama: 11%
Conservatives that voted for Obama: 17%

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2012-exit-poll

Obama is your shit sandwich now you have to eat it.

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Envelope please... the Winner is this gem from BigTex

[docstew]

The last election proved that "conservatives" and the tea party are willing to vote for Obama to spite the republican party

Republicans that voted for Obama: 6%
Tea Party that voted for Obama: 11%
Conservatives that voted for Obama: 17%

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2012-exit-poll

Obama is your shit sandwich now you have to eat it.

The only stat I could believe without a doubt is that 64% of O voters don't have HS diplomas. Sad that they wouldn't even qualify for military service, the left's benchmark for "too dumb to breathe without a reminder".

[Conservative Libertarian]

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Agreed Dac. And formerlurker is the runner-up his leg.

[Ptarmigan]

The last election proved that "conservatives" and the tea party are willing to vote for Obama to spite the republican party

Republicans that voted for Obama: 6%
Tea Party that voted for Obama: 11%
Conservatives that voted for Obama: 17%

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2012-exit-poll

Obama is your shit sandwich now you have to eat it.

I am guessing they are Ronulans/Paulistas.

[Conservative Libertarian]

I am guessing they are Ronulans/Paulistas.

They sure sound like it.

[5412]

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HI,

What am I missing?  If they were Republicans, Tea Party members, or conservatives, they wouldn't vote for Obama.  If they voted for Obama they were low information liberals. 

The whole point is stupid.  The thread is about how the Republican party is trying to destroy the conservative movement.  That is fact and also stupid.

regards,
5412

[BigTex]

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Own it dac, all those sour anti-GOP "conservatives" voted for Obama

[BigTex]

HI,

What am I missing?  If they were Republicans, Tea Party members, or conservatives, they wouldn't vote for Obama.  If they voted for Obama they were low information liberals. 

The whole point is stupid.  The thread is about how the Republican party is trying to destroy the conservative movement.  That is fact and also stupid.

regards,
5412

Conservatives have destroyed themselves by voting for a liberal to destroy a moderate

[Lacarnut]

Obama is your shit sandwich now you have to eat it.

I know another nigga named Moses. If you did not vote for Romney, how is that shit sandwich tasting.

[formerlurker]

That is not what we want. We have stated what that is and you went out of your way to ignore it.

Were you born an asshole or have you been working on it your whole life?

Oh dear.   You truly don't have a blessed clue do you?

[formerlurker]

And not suprisingly, none of the Pro-RINOs in this thread have directly answered my question. Why should the Tea Party Conservatives trust the RNC and their candidates after publically declaring war on us?

All that I got was a twisting of my own post into anti-Tea Party BS citing that the Tea Party had declared war on everyone else. Of course, the RINO forgot to mention the 2+prior election cycles where the Conservatives had supported their RINO candidates only to be rejected after the establishment RNC candidates received their votes. These RINOs refuse to see their own double-crossing hypocracy. No wonder they are no different than Democraps.

 

This is you by the way, same belief system - someone do it for me:

[rich_t]

Oh dear.   You truly don't have a blessed clue do you?

We all know that you are the only one that posts here that has a clue.

 

[formerlurker]

Hi,

I'm with you on this one.  I'd love to believe all politics are local; however there is tons of money poured into Iowa and the early primaries from outside the state.  What that does is cull the field very early due to economics.  By that time the hand picked candidates have momentum and the others drop out out due to economics.  Then by the time the primary gets to the rest of us we have to choose the lesser of the two republican evils. 

My point is all politics used to be local.  If it still was, how come there is so much outside money dumped into the early primaries?

What really is frustrating is this.  If a conservative tries to hang in there, he is destroyed by the national republican party because the fight for the nomination hurts all the candidates.  By the time they get the nomination a lot of money is already gone and damage is done.  Unfortunately, or it may turn out to be fortunately, the RINO's have to continue to lose until they finally give up and wake up.  By that time there will be so much damage done by the liberals there will be little left to salvage.

regards,
5412

Really - you and those who share the same values as you hold the positions that vote for candidates in the party, and sets the party platform, and you will be so easily influenced by outside factors?  

Excuses.   Excuses.  Excuses.   It's all you have.

[formerlurker]

We all know that you are the only one that posts here that has a clue.

 

Uh-huh.