What is Rush talking about?

[Eupher]

They keep running and supporting RINO's because there are many districts where the voting demographic means that a hardline candidate of either stripe cannot win. For the GOP this is especially true in marginal or heavily blue parts of the country.
 

Bingo. As much as it pains me to say it, LC is absolutely right.

It'd be nice if all those folks hadn't forgotten about conservatism, but I fear they have.

[rich_t]

The issue quite simple to remedy. Vote Republican, and, if they don't deserve it, not incumbent Republican.

I have a better idea.

Vote Conservative, and if they don't deserve it, not an incumbent that merely campaigned as one but acted otherwise once in office.

[rich_t]

Yeah its so easy a caveman could do it and thats why we have ended up in the bull shit that we have today.  Thank you for your in depth auto vote little participation for an R that requires little to no brainpower to facilitate the degradation of our rights and our childrens future.  Hell, maybe next time they will take the Patriot Act and actually do something invasive on the American public right?

And to think you call people like me shallow... Some people here have some serious mental issues.  But your right about one thing.  Its always easier to vote R, not get involved to change anything because you sitting on your ass crying about no one presenting a solution.  Good job.

I was a member of another board a year or so ago where one moderator referred to herself as a broken glass republican.

I had never heard that term and asked her what she meant.

She told me that she would rather crawl over a field of broken glass rather than vote for someone that didn't have an R behind their name.  Or words to that effect.

I was absolutely stunned that a person that I had found, until that point, to be a reasonable, intelligent, politically astute individual.

This was a woman that I had grown to have a fair amount of respect for, based on her previously posted conservative views.

She turned plumb viscious when I started questioning her about her "GOP and only GOP" attitude.

I am coming to the conclusion that we have a few of the "broken glass" type here too.

[rich_t]

They keep running and supporting RINO's because there are many districts where the voting demographic means that a hardline candidate of either stripe cannot win. For the GOP this is especially true in marginal or heavily blue parts of the country.
 

And thus we end up with politicians that blur the line between conservative and liberal and as a result folks like me have a tendancy to point out that there is a slim difference between the GOP and the DEM party these days.

[Freeper]

Why is Rush sounding like he is defending RINO's?

"The Republican Party is NOT the problem.."??

They are definitely PART OF the problem. TOO many RINOs!

I didn't hear him say that, so I can't comment specifically on it but, I have heard him say that when they do the right thing that he will support them. Right now he thinks they are acting right. He was impressed with how the reacted to Obama at the HC summit.

[AllosaursRus]

Actually the Republican Party is a HUGE PART OF THE PROBLEM!  Rush is far too partisan for me despite the fact that he does get much right when it comes to conservative ideals.  His partisan blood that flows through his veins blinds him just like it does many Republicans.  

The whole Republican problem is that the party is more important than the people.  Hence they are also infected with socialist or as Glenn Beck likes to put it, "progressive light".  Either way you cut it, the majority of them are useless.  

Personally I am sick of the partisan bullsh*t.  Sorry, sue me for being a constitutionalist I call it like it is.  The republican party has FAR more problems than RINO's and anyone who wants to play the libtard card can go ahead and flame like the libs do with this    and then move on.

And they will be, if we don't wrest control from the frikkin' idiots who think they "just have to get along"! That's Rush's whole point! Take back the party like Reaguns did!

I'm a Reagan Conservative. Back when that actually meant something. We were fightin' the Cold War Commies, cuttin' taxes left and right, and increasing revenue!

A third party does nothing more than ensure DemonRats win elections! Sorry, that has been the cold hard facts for better than a century! Wake up and smell the manure!

ETA: Ask Teddy Roosevelt, Ross Perot, or Bill, "what does "is" mean", Clintoon! Sorry to say I was young and naive enough to think like you when the last one happened. The first time a pres ever got elected with under 50% of the popular vote! Gave me 8 years of cringing every time that DipStick opened his mouth! And uncountable years so far, listening to his Bitch!

[AllosaursRus]

Yeah, the part about starting locally and also voting for the most conservative candidate in the primaries, I said that in my first post you responded to.


Whining about the Republican Party is not productive.  Saying "I told you so" over and over and over again about Scott Brown or John McCain or Mitt Romney is not productive. Either work on taking back the GOP or start a third party or stay at home and sit on your hands because Scott Brown, et al. isn't conservative enough for you.

And if people don't think primaries or local elections are important then be the leader.  Be the one people can come to for answers.  And if it's choice between Scott Brown and Martha Coakley then you have to be leader enough to know the limitations of what you have to work with.  For myself, faced with a Scott Brown vs. a Tammy Baldwin, I'm going to go with the Scott Brown.

Ya know Duke, you hit the nail right on the head! What did these people think Scott Brown was going to be? He's from Massataxes, for cripes sake! 'Probly the most liberal state in the frikkin union!

These guys crack me up! I live in a state where there are nothing but conservatives! At least in my immediate vicinity. I think we have one, count 'im one, DemonRat elected somewhere down around Boise. Even he knows what side his bread is buttered on! You idiots that are complaining, you did it to yourselves!

Quit cryin' in your soup and get off your ass! Being a keyboard warrior on a conservative site, is not going to win you any popularity contest!

ETA: Oh yea, and Rich, me thinks "you doth protest too much"! ( is that how it's written, Coach? Been a long time since I have heard it. )

[rich_t]

Ya know Duke, you hit the nail right on the head! What did these people think Scott Brown was going to be? He's from Massataxes, for cripes sake! 'Probly the most liberal state in the frikkin union!

These guys crack me up! I live in a state where there are nothing but conservatives! At least in my immediate vicinity. I think we have one, count 'im one, DemonRat elected somewhere down around Boise. Even he knows what side his bread is buttered on! You idiots that are complaining, you did it to yourselves!

Quit cryin' in your soup and get off your ass! Being a keyboard warrior on a conservative site, is not going to win you any popularity contest!

ETA: Oh yea, and Rich, me thinks "you doth protest too much"! ( is that how it's written, Coach? Been a long time since I have heard it. )

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You are entitled to your opinion.  As am I.

Have nice day.

[The Village Idiot]

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You are entitled to your opinion.  As am I.

Have nice day.

Jim Bunning gave in. The $15 billion FRAUD bill will now get UNANIMOUS CONSENT. That means every single Republican and every single Democrat thinks its just peachy to hold hands and spend another $10 billion in deficit spending without even having a recorded vote on the matter.

[rich_t]

Jim Bunning gave in. The $15 billion FRAUD bill will now get UNANIMOUS CONSENT. That means every single Republican and every single Democrat thinks its just peachy to hold hands and spend another $10 billion in deficit spending without even having a recorded vote on the matter.

I ain't said a damn word about Bunning.

So what does my comment have to do with yours?

[The Village Idiot]

I ain't said a damn word about Bunning.

So what does my comment have to do with yours?

Nothing.

[AllosaursRus]

Nothing.

Little touchy, ain't he, FG?

[The Village Idiot]

Little touchy, ain't he, FG?

I wonder how much more debt we'll see passed with "Unanimous" consent?? Which means the GOP and Democrats are voting identically. Gee, I do believe that was sort of the topic of conversation on this here thread.

Was I wrong about that Allo?

[AllosaursRus]

I wonder how much more debt we'll see passed with "Unanimous" consent?? Which means the GOP and Democrats are voting identically. Gee, I do believe that was sort of the topic of conversation on this here thread.

Was I wrong about that Allo?

Naw, but it kinda evolved into "I gotta bigger one than you" pissin' match. Heh, heh!

Edited 'cause I confused rich with somebody else!

[The Village Idiot]

Bunning did get them to agree to a recorded vote and it was 78-19. KBH and 2 others weren't there.

MOST GOP Senators voted to add $10 billion to the debt.

[thundley4]

Bunning did get them to agree to a recorded vote and it was 78-19. KBH and 2 others weren't there.

MOST GOP Senators voted to add $10 billion to the debt.

I really can not understand why these idiots did not use part of the unspent stimulus from last year, or some of the returned TARP funds.  No, they had to add another $10B in unfunded debt. This vote should be used against all incumbent in their respective upcoming elections.

[AllosaursRus]

I really can not understand why these idiots did not use part of the unspent stimulus from last year, or some of the returned TARP funds.  No, they had to add another $10B in unfunded debt. This vote should be used against all incumbent in their respective upcoming elections.

This is EXACTLY what Rich is talkin' 'bout! Rush, Beck Hannity, Levin, Ingram, Coulter.... too! We have to take back our party, the Republican party! The party of Lincoln, the party of Reagan!

Until we kick these spendthrifts out, we're in deep doo doo! Having said that, even Levin acknowledges it cannot happen overnight. We're all praying we can do enough to keep America solvent long enough to effect change!

A third party will never, I repeat, never accomplish what needs to be done! We just don't have the time to establish what it would take to elect reps! We have to grab the Repubs by the nutz and force them to our way, period! In my opinion, it's the only thing that will save America for my grand kids!

[rich_t]

Little touchy, ain't he, FG?

Wasn't being touchy.  I was pretty tired and thought that I had maybe missed something.

No big deal.

 

[AllosaursRus]

Wasn't being touchy.  I was pretty tired and thought that I had maybe missed something.

No big deal.

 

Ah don't sweat it. Creating 3rd party candidates is a hot topic on many boards. I just think it will defeat the purpose. I think we have a better chance of turning the Republican party back to conservatism in the short time we have before everything goes to shirt.

I firmly believe "the Bummer" and his minions would like nothing better than to take this country down to the point we are no longer the leader of the free world. He sure seems hell bent on destroying our currency!

[The Village Idiot]

I really can not understand why these idiots did not use part of the unspent stimulus from last year, or some of the returned TARP funds.  No, they had to add another $10B in unfunded debt. This vote should be used against all incumbent in their respective upcoming elections.

If Bunning hadn't made this an issue it would have passed unanimous consent, which is what they wanted. 18 of those who voted NAY are lying their rear ends off.