What is Rush talking about?

[The Village Idiot]

Why is Rush sounding like he is defending RINO's?

"The Republican Party is NOT the problem.."??

They are definitely PART OF the problem. TOO many RINOs!

[Ralph Wiggum]

Why is this in the lounge?

[dutch508]

because flg is a ****ing retard?


 

[The Village Idiot]

Why is this in the lounge?

because nobody reads General Duscussion

[bkg]

Careful FGL, there are people here who think the GOP is the solution.

[The Village Idiot]

Careful FGL, there are people here who think the GOP is the solution.

It could be, after its RINO's get neutered

[Eupher]

Careful FGL, there are people here who think the GOP is the solution.

I don't believe there is any SINGLE solution to the goat**** that two of the three branches of gubmint have become.

That said, the GOP is probably one of many potential solutions to an incredibly vexing and annoying problem -- the problem of extreme liberalism and the nanny state that it fosters.

[thundley4]

I don't believe there is any SINGLE solution to the goat**** that two of the three branches of gubmint have become.

That said, the GOP is probably one of many potential solutions to an incredibly vexing and annoying problem -- the problem of extreme liberalism and the nanny state that it fosters.

That 3rd branch of government can be a goat**** also.  They did give new powers to states for taking private property.

[bkg]

It could be, if RINO's ever get neutered

fify

but again, what's their motivation to do so? Outside of Honor, there is none.

[Eupher]

That 3rd branch of government can be a goat**** also.  They did give new powers to states for taking private property.

agreed, but for the most part, the judicial branch has stayed out of the fray that characterizes Lord Zero's apoplectic, maniacal stupidity.

[Duke Nukum]

Why is Rush sounding like he is defending RINO's?

"The Republican Party is NOT the problem.."??

They are definitely PART OF the problem. TOO many RINOs!

Instead of ensuring permanent Democrat Party rule by advocating a third party movement, Rush is opting for the Reagan strategery of taking back the GOP from the RINOs.  When he says, "The Republican Party is not the problem..." he usually follows it up pretty quickly by saying something akin to "the RINOs are."

If you want less RINOs then get out the vote in the primaries for the more conservative candidate and get as many people to go with you as possible. 

Also, and this is very important, always vote in local elections.  Here in Madison, about 12% of the population controls who is on the school boards and central committee. If there isn't enough information on the individual candidates, it may be helpful to see who your local teacher's union and other liberal organizations are endorsing and vote for the other guy.  Not ideal but better than nothing.

[Javelin]

Instead of ensuring permanent Democrat Party rule by advocating a third party movement, Rush is opting for the Reagan strategery of taking back the GOP from the RINOs.  When he says, "The Republican Party is not the problem..." he usually follows it up pretty quickly by saying something akin to "the RINOs are."

If you want less RINOs then get out the vote in the primaries for the more conservative candidate and get as many people to go with you as possible.  

Also, and this is very important, always vote in local elections.  Here in Madison, about 12% of the population controls who is on the school boards and central committee. If there isn't enough information on the individual candidates, it may be helpful to see who your local teacher's union and other liberal organizations are endorsing and vote for the other guy.  Not ideal but better than nothing.

Actually the Republican Party is a HUGE PART OF THE PROBLEM!  Rush is far too partisan for me despite the fact that he does get much right when it comes to conservative ideals.  His partisan blood that flows through his veins blinds him just like it does many Republicans.  

The whole Republican problem is that the party is more important than the people.  Hence they are also infected with socialist or as Glenn Beck likes to put it, "progressive light".  Either way you cut it, the majority of them are useless.  

Personally I am sick of the partisan bullsh*t.  Sorry, sue me for being a constitutionalist I call it like it is.  The republican party has FAR more problems than RINO's and anyone who wants to play the libtard card can go ahead and flame like the libs do with this    and then move on.

[Duke Nukum]

Actually the Republican Party is a HUGE PART OF THE PROBLEM!  Rush is far too partisan for me despite the fact that he does get much right when it comes to conservative ideals.  His partisan blood that flows through his veins blinds him just like it does many Republicans.  

The whole Republican problem is that the party is more important than the people.  Hence they are also infected with socialist or as Glenn Beck likes to put it, "progressive light".  Either way you cut it, the majority of them are useless.  

Personally I am sick of the partisan bullsh*t.  Sorry, sue me for being a constitutionalist I call it like it is.  The republican party has FAR more problems than RINO's and anyone who wants to play the libtard card can go ahead and flame like the libs do with this    and then move on.

I'm sure a new third party will work as well as the rest.  We should just bring back Perot.

[Javelin]

I'm sure a new third party will work as well as the rest.  We should just bring back Perot.

Who said anything about a 3rd party?  If it would work, sure why not.  How about we just actually start with some damn accountability that actually means something.  How?  Start locally and take our states back from the Federal Government and then make them squeal like the pigs they are.  It wouldnt be so hard if people would actually put up the effort instead of simply running mouths.  The whole Tea Party thing being hijacked by the republican party is a joke and an insult.  Now people who worshiped the whole Scott Brown thing are upset... well I wonder why... 

Its about more than a pompom show and it certainly is about more than voting for the best of the worst in showing.  Our political system is a frieking circus show. 

Vote for Perot if you wish, worship the republican gods if you wish, either way your going to end up with a clown in the end juggling your balls while you cry about the pain like we now have with Obama.  If the past 100 years of this teeter totter joke is not enough to prove it what makes anyone in their right mind believe that a party will do anything to improve the next 100 years?  Yet the people who talk about 3rd parties are called crazy?  Whatever... Last time I heard the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.  At least those who want a 3rd party and are willing to consider the option wouldnt fall into the classification of insanity.  Rush... now that man I call insane or the GOP coolaid spout, whichever you choose.

If more people actually got involved in a meaningful way perhaps things would change.

[5412]

Hi,

From what I heard today some caller asked him about some remarks Glenn Beck made and the fact Romney endorsed McCain.  Rush stated his policy is not to discuss others in his business, saying that while he may not always agree with them, they are not the problem, the far wacko left is the problem.

He mentioned he did not agree with Romney endorsing McCain, that is part of the problem, but there is not point in starting a civil war among republicans, they are not the real problem.

Rush is like Palin, he is practical enough to know they have to get the Republican leadership to get their head out of their collective asses and get and stay conservative movement.  A third party will just ensure the libs win even bigger.

regards,
5412

[Javelin]

Hi,

From what I heard today some caller asked him about some remarks Glenn Beck made and the fact Romney endorsed McCain.  Rush stated his policy is not to discuss others in his business, saying that while he may not always agree with them, they are not the problem, the far wacko left is the problem.

He mentioned he did not agree with Romney endorsing McCain, that is part of the problem, but there is not point in starting a civil war among republicans, they are not the real problem.

Rush is like Palin, he is practical enough to know they have to get the Republican leadership to get their head out of their collective asses and get and stay conservative movement.  A third party will just ensure the libs win even bigger.

regards,
5412

5412 you like me are a Marine.  You understand the concept of combat effectiveness.  That is what I am looking for.  Show me a leader and I will vote for him if he is a leader that is not a lib in sheeps clothing.  I have no problem with that.

So my whole point to my rant, the problem is within the republican party just as much as the democrat party.  There is no denying it.  Show me the leader that stands for right and true conservative values.  There is not one.  Its not about starting a civil war.  The republicans have been proven ineffective repeatedly just the same as the democrats.  So in truth, the republican party is in a "revolution" if you will, perhaps emerging from its "civil war" after the fallout last year.  No matter, the point is mute.  Perception is everything and if the perception people choose colors the picture a rosy color rather than truth, perhaps we deserve what we are getting.

If there is not change we will one day find ourselves inside of another kind of civil war and no matter of sticking our heads in the sand will fix it.  At this moment the republican party is "combat ineffective" and they will remain so until a leader does emerge that is a true leader.  Until that time, its all partisan talk.  Quite honestly show me a leader on any side that stands for what is right, Republican, Democrat or 3rd party and he gets my vote.  There was once upon a time when the name Democrat did not mean Communist and Republican did not mean a sellout.

[Duke Nukum]

Who said anything about a 3rd party?  If it would work, sure why not.  How about we just actually start with some damn accountability that actually means something.  How?  Start locally and take our states back from the Federal Government and then make them squeal like the pigs they are.  It wouldnt be so hard if people would actually put up the effort instead of simply running mouths.  The whole Tea Party thing being hijacked by the republican party is a joke and an insult.  Now people who worshiped the whole Scott Brown thing are upset... well I wonder why... 

Its about more than a pompom show and it certainly is about more than voting for the best of the worst in showing.  Our political system is a frieking circus show. 

Vote for Perot if you wish, worship the republican gods if you wish, either way your going to end up with a clown in the end juggling your balls while you cry about the pain like we now have with Obama.  If the past 100 years of this teeter totter joke is not enough to prove it what makes anyone in their right mind believe that a party will do anything to improve the next 100 years?  Yet the people who talk about 3rd parties are called crazy?  Whatever... Last time I heard the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.  At least those who want a 3rd party and are willing to consider the option wouldnt fall into the classification of insanity.  Rush... now that man I call insane or the GOP coolaid spout, whichever you choose.

If more people actually got involved in a meaningful way perhaps things would change.

Yeah, the part about starting locally and also voting for the most conservative candidate in the primaries, I said that in my first post you responded to.


Whining about the Republican Party is not productive.  Saying "I told you so" over and over and over again about Scott Brown or John McCain or Mitt Romney is not productive. Either work on taking back the GOP or start a third party or stay at home and sit on your hands because Scott Brown, et al. isn't conservative enough for you.

And if people don't think primaries or local elections are important then be the leader.  Be the one people can come to for answers.  And if it's choice between Scott Brown and Martha Coakley then you have to be leader enough to know the limitations of what you have to work with.  For myself, faced with a Scott Brown vs. a Tammy Baldwin, I'm going to go with the Scott Brown.

[The Village Idiot]

Nobody has been talking about a third party. Glenn Beck said third parties are stupid. BTW- Don't believe half the attacks on Beck.

[Duke Nukum]

Nobody has been talking about a third party. Glenn Beck said third parties are stupid. BTW- Don't believe half the attacks on Beck.

Then what are we talking about?  If the Republican Party is the the problem then what solution is being proposed?  Or is it just a bitch session?  If you have a choice between a Scott Brown and a Martha Coakley and a third party Ron Paul type, who are you going to vote for?

Are you going to just ceaselessly point out, "Scott Brown's a RINO" and vote for him anyway and then just come back a month later and say "I told you so" over and over?  Or what?  Or sit on your hands and hope Coakely wins and if Brown does win in spite of your best RINO'ing then you just play the "i told you so" card?

What?  What is it all about?

What is your solution?  Is it only about having bragging rights on the InterWebs?

[The Village Idiot]

Then what are we talking about?  If the Republican Party is the the problem then what solution is being proposed?  Or is it just a bitch session?  If you have a choice between a Scott Brown and a Martha Coakley and a third party Ron Paul type, who are you going to vote for?

The answer is to stop attacking the conservatives who want to make the GOP more conservative.

[Duke Nukum]

The answer is to stop attacking the conservatives who want to make the GOP more conservative.

And who are you talking about here?  Are you talking about the RINO's?  Because they aren't going to stop.  Are you talking about the people who wouldn't heed the great wisdom that Scott Brown would turn out to be a RINO?  Well, what good does that do when it comes down to a choice between Brown and Coakley?

Who is being attacked and who is doing the attacking?

[5412]

5412 you like me are a Marine.  You understand the concept of combat effectiveness.  That is what I am looking for.  Show me a leader and I will vote for him if he is a leader that is not a lib in sheeps clothing.  I have no problem with that.

So my whole point to my rant, the problem is within the republican party just as much as the democrat party.  There is no denying it.  Show me the leader that stands for right and true conservative values.  There is not one.  Its not about starting a civil war.  The republicans have been proven ineffective repeatedly just the same as the democrats.  So in truth, the republican party is in a "revolution" if you will, perhaps emerging from its "civil war" after the fallout last year.  No matter, the point is mute.  Perception is everything and if the perception people choose colors the picture a rosy color rather than truth, perhaps we deserve what we are getting.

If there is not change we will one day find ourselves inside of another kind of civil war and no matter of sticking our heads in the sand will fix it.  At this moment the republican party is "combat ineffective" and they will remain so until a leader does emerge that is a true leader.  Until that time, its all partisan talk.  Quite honestly show me a leader on any side that stands for what is right, Republican, Democrat or 3rd party and he gets my vote.  There was once upon a time when the name Democrat did not mean Communist and Republican did not mean a sellout.

Hi,

I totally agree with you.  I am a registered independent.  Where the hell is Ronald Reagan when you need him? 

I like Marco Rubio but it is too soon.  He says the right things but time will tell.  The libs have done a good job of killing off a lot of young shoots, Allen in VA, JC Watts and others.  They have a habit of realizing who the stars are and doing everything they can to discredit them, much like they have done Palin. 

There is an old saying, "When the student is ready to learn, the teacher shall appear!"  The public is ripe for a young conservative to emerge and make the tough decisions to get the country where it needs to be.  At the same time that person better be very skilled at sales and talking directly to the population like Reagan did because the media is going to do nothing but try to distort and destroy.  My wife thinks it could be that Michelle lady from MN who seems to be biding her time at the moment and getting a lot of good conservative face time.  I am not so sure we have seen that leader just yet.

regards,
5412

[Javelin]

And who are you talking about here?  Are you talking about the RINO's?  Because they aren't going to stop.  Are you talking about the people who wouldn't heed the great wisdom that Scott Brown would turn out to be a RINO?  Well, what good does that do when it comes down to a choice between Brown and Coakley?

Who is being attacked and who is doing the attacking?

This is what I love about republicans, they are about as brain dead as democrats when it comes to this.  They simply cannot see the flaws within their own debate.  If there is discussion within about change then there is "civil war" or b*tching or worse yet, someone is claiming to be desiring a 3rd party or even worse a Ronulian Revolution.

The point is very simple.  Republicans are socialist from where I sit, ok its that simple.  There needs to be a shakeup within the party, a major one.  Democrats are damn Communists these days.  I hate both your parties, that easy.  No where have I seen anyone stand up for constitutional rights, period.

I tell people to get involved and then I am told to get involved.  Damn if I was any more involved I would be running for president myself.  

Your solution is simple.  Dont take what they give you on the platter at the booth, you design the platter.  Thats what I am doing.

The whole point to me posting on this thread to begin with as dealing with Rush and his partisan republican attitude that I hate.  At least it was about that until it was degraded into 3rd party talk.  And by the way, whoever says a 3rd party is a bad idea is approaching it from a COMPLETELY WRONG PERSPECTIVE.  POLITICS ALWAYS STARTS LOCALLY AND SO SHOULD A 3RD PARTY, IT DOESNT START FROM THE HIGHEST POSITION IN THE COUNTRY!  Sometimes I wonder who is the bigger idiot, Republicans or Libertarians.

[Javelin]

Hi,

I totally agree with you.  I am a registered independent.  Where the hell is Ronald Reagan when you need him? 

I like Marco Rubio but it is too soon.  He says the right things but time will tell.  The libs have done a good job of killing off a lot of young shoots, Allen in VA, JC Watts and others.  They have a habit of realizing who the stars are and doing everything they can to discredit them, much like they have done Palin. 

There is an old saying, "When the student is ready to learn, the teacher shall appear!"  The public is ripe for a young conservative to emerge and make the tough decisions to get the country where it needs to be.  At the same time that person better be very skilled at sales and talking directly to the population like Reagan did because the media is going to do nothing but try to distort and destroy.  My wife thinks it could be that Michelle lady from MN who seems to be biding her time at the moment and getting a lot of good conservative face time.  I am not so sure we have seen that leader just yet.

regards,
5412

If I had my choice, it would be Michelle B.  Everyone focuses so much on Palin, and while I like her she does not have the fire Michelle has.  Notice something though, there are no men left to stand up and fight a mans fight.  Interesting isnt it.

[The Village Idiot]

And who are you talking about here?  Are you talking about the RINO's?  Because they aren't going to stop.  Are you talking about the people who wouldn't heed the great wisdom that Scott Brown would turn out to be a RINO?  Well, what good does that do when it comes down to a choice between Brown and Coakley?

Who is being attacked and who is doing the attacking?

Bill Bennett, Mark Levin and others have launched attacks on Glenn Beck for being too critical of the GOP