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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #200 on: January 03, 2010, 07:10:05 AM »
A couple of hypotheticals just so everyone can really think about voting and consequences.

1) Your Senator is Ben Nelson and while considered a moderate or even conservative among dems he is definitely as Frank as said a democrat.
I have no idea about the Republican that ran against him last time but for this exercise will stipulate that there was philosophically little difference or the least was a carbon copy of McCain.
Pleasant choice right?

In light of what we just had happen what was the best option to take in that election?

2) In 2012 we have a reawakening of conservative ideals and the Republican party puts forth a national slate of solid conservatives for President and Congress,as close to perfect in ideology as could be realistically hoped for.
One of the party platforms is recognizing that Social Security is a broken system but going beyond that not a proper role or function of government.
Therefor they call for the complete dismantling of it with whatever funds are there going to meet the payouts promised to everyone currently 60 (or whatever actual age would be projected) and older.
Everyone else will keep the 14% now going into the system but what they have paid in to this point is unfortunately gone.
The overall betterment of our society from not having the tax burden or a dependence on a government system for a "retirement" being a larger issue.

Do you vote for that slate?

Just for fun and hopefully will be a little thought provoking.

You did not mention SSI and SSDI.  Y'all know this is a losing platform right? 

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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #201 on: January 03, 2010, 07:11:06 AM »
Note -- far better to implement the platform without running on it.   Make it a part of your campaign and you may win back the base, but the Democrats will kill you in the scare tactics department.

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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #202 on: January 03, 2010, 08:04:57 AM »
You did not mention SSI and SSDI.  Y'all know this is a losing platform right? 

Perhaps but it is a pretty conservative one so should have some support.

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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #203 on: January 03, 2010, 09:31:19 AM »
A couple of hypotheticals just so everyone can really think about voting and consequences.

1) Your Senator is Ben Nelson and while considered a moderate or even conservative among dems he is definitely as Frank as said a democrat.
I have no idea about the Republican that ran against him last time but for this exercise will stipulate that there was philosophically little difference or the least was a carbon copy of McCain.
Pleasant choice right?

In light of what we just had happen what was the best option to take in that election?

2) In 2012 we have a reawakening of conservative ideals and the Republican party puts forth a national slate of solid conservatives for President and Congress,as close to perfect in ideology as could be realistically hoped for.
One of the party platforms is recognizing that Social Security is a broken system but going beyond that not a proper role or function of government.
Therefor they call for the complete dismantling of it with whatever funds are there going to meet the payouts promised to everyone currently 60 (or whatever actual age would be projected) and older.
Everyone else will keep the 14% now going into the system but what they have paid in to this point is unfortunately gone.
The overall betterment of our society from not having the tax burden or a dependence on a government system for a "retirement" being a larger issue.

Do you vote for that slate?

Just for fun and hopefully will be a little thought provoking.

If that were the case in 2012 for the Republicans I could vote for that.
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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #204 on: January 03, 2010, 09:40:57 AM »
A couple of hypotheticals just so everyone can really think about voting and consequences.

1) Your Senator is Ben Nelson and while considered a moderate or even conservative among dems he is definitely as Frank as said a democrat.
I have no idea about the Republican that ran against him last time but for this exercise will stipulate that there was philosophically little difference or the least was a carbon copy of McCain.
Pleasant choice right?

In light of what we just had happen what was the best option to take in that election?

2) In 2012 we have a reawakening of conservative ideals and the Republican party puts forth a national slate of solid conservatives for President and Congress,as close to perfect in ideology as could be realistically hoped for.
One of the party platforms is recognizing that Social Security is a broken system but going beyond that not a proper role or function of government.
Therefor they call for the complete dismantling of it with whatever funds are there going to meet the payouts promised to everyone currently 60 (or whatever actual age would be projected) and older.
Everyone else will keep the 14% now going into the system but what they have paid in to this point is unfortunately gone.
The overall betterment of our society from not having the tax burden or a dependence on a government system for a "retirement" being a larger issue.

Do you vote for that slate?

Just for fun and hopefully will be a little thought provoking.

What funds?  There are no funds there anymore.  Congress has misappropriated what should have been there years ago.

The only thing left in that account is a bunch of government IOUs.

Therefore I would vote to dismantle it. 
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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #205 on: January 03, 2010, 05:02:00 PM »

This pissing match is still going?  :rotf:

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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #206 on: January 03, 2010, 05:05:42 PM »
This pissing match is still going?  :rotf:

Ehh,just trying to spark discussion and thought as far as myself.

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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #207 on: January 03, 2010, 06:27:49 PM »
This pissing match is still going?  :rotf:

John Birch Society meeting let out early today?
Liberalism Is The Philosophy Of The Stupid

The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years.  The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

If it walks like a donkey and brays like a donkey and smells like a donkey - it's Cold Warrior.  - PoliCon



Palin has run a state, a town and a commercial fishing operation. Obama ain't run nothin' but his mouth. - Mark Steyn

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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #208 on: January 03, 2010, 07:16:27 PM »
John Birch Society meeting let out early today?

After reading through most of this gibber jabberish, I still can not figure out who they want at the top of the ticket in 2012. Reagan changed the Repub party from the top down. My opinion is that Palin can do the same thing. She needs to grab the reins, charge ahead and define the Repub party. Rockefeller Repubs will not be happy with her brand of conservatism. Yep, we need a leader to put these RINO's in their place. We tried it their way in the last election; so it's time to go in the opposite direction.

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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #209 on: January 03, 2010, 08:10:13 PM »
John Birch Society meeting let out early today?

Was that sarcasm, an attempt at humor, or an attempt at an insult?

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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #210 on: January 03, 2010, 08:22:36 PM »
Was that sarcasm, an attempt at humor, or an attempt at an insult?

Personally, I took it as an attempt to insult.

But I've been wrong from time to time in the past and I'm sure I will be again in the future from time to time.

So perhaps I am wrong this time.
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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #211 on: January 03, 2010, 08:25:16 PM »
Personally, I took it as an attempt to insult.

But I've been wrong from time to time in the past and I'm sure I will be again in the future from time to time.

So perhaps I am wrong this time.

Given he's been responding to me with a passive agressive comment at every turn, I only assumed it to be (yet another) insult... Status Quo, I'm learning.

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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #212 on: January 03, 2010, 08:54:18 PM »
Given he's been responding to me with a passive agressive comment at every turn, I only assumed it to be (yet another) insult... Status Quo, I'm learning.

Some don't like the group think to be challanged it seems.

Oh well...  Such is life from time to time.
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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #213 on: January 03, 2010, 09:11:07 PM »
I hear the word sheeple coming. :whatever:

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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #214 on: January 03, 2010, 09:23:44 PM »
I hear the word sheeple coming. :whatever:

Did a goat whisper that in your ear?

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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #215 on: January 03, 2010, 09:25:26 PM »
Did a goat whisper that in your ear?

 :fuelfire:

Nope. :-)

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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #216 on: January 03, 2010, 09:28:16 PM »
I will post it again just to amuse myself I guess...

Your Senator is Ben Nelson and while considered a moderate or even conservative among dems he is definitely as Frank as said a democrat.
I have no idea about the Republican that ran against him last time but for this exercise will stipulate that there was philosophically little difference or the least was a carbon copy of McCain.
Pleasant choice right?

In light of what we just had happen what was the best option to take in that election?


Any takers?


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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #217 on: January 03, 2010, 09:33:56 PM »
I will post it again just to amuse myself I guess...

Your Senator is Ben Nelson and while considered a moderate or even conservative among dems he is definitely as Frank as said a democrat.
I have no idea about the Republican that ran against him last time but for this exercise will stipulate that there was philosophically little difference or the least was a carbon copy of McCain.
Pleasant choice right?

In light of what we just had happen what was the best option to take in that election?


Any takers?



That has already been responded to Carl.
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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #218 on: January 03, 2010, 09:37:29 PM »
That has already been responded to Carl.

In all respect that one hasn`t been responded to.
The second about SS was by you and Tx but that one wasn`t.

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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #219 on: January 04, 2010, 09:59:59 AM »
I hear the word sheeple coming. :whatever:

Yeah it will be here soon enough.
Liberalism Is The Philosophy Of The Stupid

The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years.  The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

If it walks like a donkey and brays like a donkey and smells like a donkey - it's Cold Warrior.  - PoliCon



Palin has run a state, a town and a commercial fishing operation. Obama ain't run nothin' but his mouth. - Mark Steyn

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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #220 on: January 04, 2010, 10:03:25 AM »
I will post it again just to amuse myself I guess...

Your Senator is Ben Nelson and while considered a moderate or even conservative among dems he is definitely as Frank as said a democrat.
I have no idea about the Republican that ran against him last time but for this exercise will stipulate that there was philosophically little difference or the least was a carbon copy of McCain.
Pleasant choice right?

In light of what we just had happen what was the best option to take in that election?


Any takers?



If that was the case then we'd have to look at a repeat of what Palin and a few other Conservatives did in the NY-23 race.
Liberalism Is The Philosophy Of The Stupid

The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years.  The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

If it walks like a donkey and brays like a donkey and smells like a donkey - it's Cold Warrior.  - PoliCon



Palin has run a state, a town and a commercial fishing operation. Obama ain't run nothin' but his mouth. - Mark Steyn

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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #221 on: January 04, 2010, 06:31:10 PM »
That and with the adults back in charge...National Security won't be the punchline to a joke.

Yeah no more will he hear the system worked when an attack was damn near successful. For God's sake the guy may as well have been holding up a sign saying "I have a bomb" and they seated him on the plane.
I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #222 on: January 04, 2010, 06:50:43 PM »
Yeah no more will he hear the system worked when an attack was damn near successful. For God's sake the guy may as well have been holding up a sign saying "I have a bomb" and they seated him on the plane.

Naw.

The sign would have been confiscated before he was allowed to board - it might have sharp edges.


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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #223 on: January 19, 2010, 09:02:49 PM »
gopcongress?

how about "Concervativecongress"?

Might have to register that...

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Re: Why vote GOP back in?
« Reply #224 on: January 19, 2010, 09:15:11 PM »
Must...obey...GOP.....for...the...win...

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