Obama v Fox News - Greta responds to his whining....

[Eupher]

I guess this means so much for a transparent administration. 0bama has done nothing but hide what he's doing/ attempting to do and the majority of the main stream media are his accomplices.

What Lord Zero quickly learned was that there are reasons to be less transparent than he preached he'd be.

He's just too much of a coward to come out and say that his campaign promise was null and void when it came out of his mouth.

[Rebel]

There have been quite a few things that I disagree on with O'Reilly.

Ditto. I personally can't stand the f'er.

[rich_t]

While Fox may lean more "right" in some people's opinion....I think the reality of Fox is that they are in the center...where they are all SUPPOSED to be! Everyone else is becoming so far left that people can't recognize what "center" looks like!!!

Exactly what I was thinking.

[RightCoast]

There have been quite a few things that I disagree on with O'Reilly.

Be that as it may the point still stands, he allows both sides an opportunity to air their opinion.

[rich_t]

Awww..

The ***** in the WH can't be bothered to answer questions by those that disagree with his agenda.

Wasn't Hugo like that before he declared himself president for life?

O has proven that he is a liar, lacks character, and is an overall scum sucking mouth breather.  IMO.

[Duke Nukum]

First of all, everybody who isn't far to the right knows Fox News has a righty bias. That's not to say there isn't a lefty bias elsewhere, but Fox has a righty bias. It's sensible for a lefty not to trust having an interview with them.

Second, I'd like to hear Obama's side of this story regarding the Greta interview. Maybe there's a piece of the pie we don't know about. I already find it suspicious that Greta didn't attempt to show any objectivity here.

I haven't watched anything on FNC except Red Eye and occasionally Fox News Watch in a long time but FNC always struck me as being more fair and balanced than righty.  The reason to you it might seem like they are to the right is because nearly every other major media outlet suppresses the Conservative point of view.  Or present a warped conservative point of view like that token "conservative" who praises the Messiah for the NY Times.

It's possible that Fox has moved more to the right in recent years and that recent poll that indicated a huge majority of Americans self-identify as conservatives explains FNC's high ratings but it could simply be that more people tune in because for the actual news Fox is less biased. 

Even my life-long Democrat mom and aunt would watch Brit Hume when he was on and they also preferred Fox News Sunday after Charles Kuralt  left the CBS Sunday Morning show.  Of course in the last election my mom voted Republican for the first time ever but that had more to do with not trusting Obama, which there is a lot there not to trust.  Or maybe it was the FNC brainwashing machine.  Who can say?

I believe the real reason Obama wont show up on FNC is because he might actually get asked a few tough but fair questions.

[Carl]

I think I said there were others with a lefty slant. I sort of wondered if the whole left wing media conspiracy theory thing wasn't true after Sarah. I still wonder. But I have to say that people really far to the left think the mainstream media has a right wing bias.

Isn`t that because people "really far to the left" are pretty much communist?
Not saying that as a strawman but as a description of their political views where anything short of Castro is rightwing to them.

That doesn`t really set up much of an argument against the fact that the entire media outside of Fox is liberally biased.

The reason that the left so hates Fox is because it has ventured into territory that they have staked out as sacred for their own propaganda/indoctrination use.

[debk]

I haven't watched anything on FNC except Red Eye and occasionally Fox News Watch in a long time but FNC always struck me as being more fair and balanced than righty.  .

I don't see it as often as I would like....but I think Red Eye is a hoot! Obviously too irreverant to be on earlier. 

[Duke Nukum]

I don't see it as often as I would like....but I think Red Eye is a hoot! Obviously too irreverant to be on earlier. 

I think it is back on hulu if you have the time to watch it over the 'nets.

[Lanie]

You "SORT OF WONDERED"?  The people far to the left don't think the mainstream media has a right wing bias they just say it does (they think the more they say it the more OTHER people will believe it).  They know that they are on their side 99% of the time.  If you are intellectually honest you would admit it too, it would earn you a hell of a lot more respect around here.   

As somebody who used to be far to the left, I can assure you that they tend to think that mainstream media has a right wing bias. Some people felt it was bull to only report the good news from the war (like dancing in the street or Hussein's statue falling), but not report the really bad stuff such as troops dying. That's one example. Now, they do focus more on the bad. I don't understand the reason for that since it all started BEFORE Obama came in office. Maybe it has to do with wanting to post stories that make the public happy.

Anyway, I do believe that the media had a bias in favor of Obama. The way they attacked Sarah and her family was disgusting. I do believe the media is now leaning left on the American war subject and the Israel subject. It would help to hear more stories of troops who are actually over there and not just stories of those who lost a loved one. Both are really important, but it's important to hear the good as well. I tend to look for pro-Israeli sources to get news about Israel because I know the media isn't being fair to them either.

So I acknowledge that there has been some serious lefty bias on some subjects as of the past year or two. I don't know about beforehand because I was looking at it through very far, leftist eyes.

And that's as much as you're going to get out of me right now.

FWIW, I think it would be cool if Obama would do the interview, but if I was him, I'd insist on doing it live. It leaves no room for editing. If Fox is that fair, then they should have no problem with setting that up.

[Lanie]

As somebody who used to be far to the left, I can assure you that they tend to think that mainstream media has a right wing bias. Some people felt it was bull to only report the good news from the war (like dancing in the street or Hussein's statue falling), but not report the really bad stuff such as troops dying. That's one example. Now, they do focus more on the bad. I don't understand the reason for that since it all started BEFORE Obama came in office. Maybe it has to do with wanting to post stories that make the public happy.

Anyway, I do believe that the media had a bias in favor of Obama. The way they attacked Sarah and her family was disgusting. I do believe the media is now leaning left on the American war subject and the Israel subject. It would help to hear more stories of troops who are actually over there and not just stories of those who lost a loved one. Both are really important, but it's important to hear the good as well. I tend to look for pro-Israeli sources to get news about Israel because I know the media isn't being fair to them either.

So I acknowledge that there has been some serious lefty bias on some subjects as of the past year or two. I don't know about beforehand because I was looking at it through very far, leftist eyes.

And that's as much as you're going to get out of me right now.

FWIW, I think it would be cool if Obama would do the interview, but if I was him, I'd insist on doing it live. It leaves no room for editing. If Fox is that fair, then they should have no problem with setting that up.

I should probably clarify something about people wanting the good and the bad reported in a war. Yes, some activists want the bad reported to prove a point. That's pretty disgusting since we're speaking of the troops. I do favor both good and bad being reported, but only because it's the news. And I don't believe in graphics. And I really believe in the good also being reported so people can better analyze the issue.

[TheSarge]

I should probably clarify something about people wanting the good and the bad reported in a war. Yes, some activists want the bad reported to prove a point. That's pretty disgusting since we're speaking of the troops. I do favor both good and bad being reported, but only because it's the news. And I don't believe in graphics. And I really believe in the good also being reported so people can better analyze the issue.

Some activists along with the vast majority of the print and broadcast media in this country.


Lanie I covered...on my own...for one 3,500 soldier bridage 79 stories on the good stuff we were doing.

For each of those stories the correspondents from every network and paper that were there...U.S. and European were sent an e-mail telling them what was going on and when and were extended an invitation to come along.

You know how many times that invitation was taken up?

3.  Three times in a 13 month time span.

Once by Fox News....once by Dr. Bob Arnot when he was with MSNBC and once by Joe Galloway.

So for you to sit there and try to convince us that the "liberal bias" of the MSM is just a fantasy we cooked up is stupid.

I've LIVED it up close and personal more than once.

The hatchet job the media did on us in Somalia was jsut as shameful.

[jtyangel]

How typical of a man to not like the one who won't give him a BJ...    

I can't remember where I read it, but it was in the last month, regarding Fox being all conservatives. Obviously Hannity is Republican, O'Reilly is neutral, but the article said Greta was a Democrat.

While Fox may lean more "right" in some people's opinion....I think the reality of Fox is that they are in the center...where they are all SUPPOSED to be! Everyone else is becoming so far left that people can't recognize what "center" looks like!!!

I watch Fox and have it on the TV most of the following times as I have a TV in my office and I can work to TV whereas I cannot to any type of music. I sometimes wathc early morning, almost always from 3-7pm if I am home, and often will watch the repeats of O'Reilly and Hannity that start here at 11pm, if I am up working and may watch Greta depending on if I'm still up. Therefore I think I'm capable of giving an opinion of Fox as opposed to those who voice their opinions and never even watch the channel.

Fox, almost always....when having an opinion session....will have a conservative and a liberal along with the commentator. The "discussions" can get quite heated. But, BOTH sides are represented.

They have guests which are both conservative AND liberal who donot have someone else on, at the same time, with opposing viewpoints.

And there are often guests on who are NOT giving a political opinion...imagine that?!?!?!  

The bolded is very well said, Deb. The vast portion of the media is indeed so far left that people don't know anymore what the center is. I think that's exactly on target for what's happened. It also means the left has created a myth of the far right. It doesn't really exist in any serious political discourse and is no real threat to anything so it's a boogeyman they put up there to manipulate with.

[Celtic Rose]

The bolded is very well said, Deb. The vast portion of the media is indeed so far left that people don't know anymore what the center is. I think that's exactly on target for what's happened. It also means the left has created a myth of the far right. It doesn't really exist in any serious political discourse and is no real threat to anything so it's a boogeyman they put up there to manipulate with.

Bingo.  The "far right" in real life American politics would probably be the libertarians, and lets be honest, they just aren't that much of a boogy man.  They want the government to basically leave them alone.  So, the media has attached Nazi's and White Supremists to the far right (though if you actually look at their politics, they are definitely on the left side of the street) because then they can connect anybody on the right to racists. 

[Lanie]

Some activists along with the vast majority of the print and broadcast media in this country.


Lanie I covered...on my own...for one 3,500 soldier bridage 79 stories on the good stuff we were doing.

For each of those stories the correspondents from every network and paper that were there...U.S. and European were sent an e-mail telling them what was going on and when and were extended an invitation to come along.

You know how many times that invitation was taken up?

3.  Three times in a 13 month time span.

Once by Fox News....once by Dr. Bob Arnot when he was with MSNBC and once by Joe Galloway.

So for you to sit there and try to convince us that the "liberal bias" of the MSM is just a fantasy we cooked up is stupid.

I've LIVED it up close and personal more than once.

The hatchet job the media did on us in Somalia was jsut as shameful.

Nearly anytime I was on a protest, the mainstream media reported that probably a fourth of what really showed up showed up. And I'm not taking the word of far lefty sources outside of the recruiters. Plus, I know the difference between a march that has 50,000 and a march that has 200,000.

And when the cops beat up a libertarian during the march right after the war officially ended? Why wasn't that all over the press? It was actually just as well since my mom would have begged me not to go to anymore, but still....  Actually, why wasn't that entire event covered? The cops had it in their head to get into a fight with us, and ****ing ANSWER had it in their head to make it happen so we could be victims of the cops, so they would try to block certain areas. We had to yell at both of them to knock it off. If the media only has a lefty bias, why wasn't any of this reported?

Why is it that until American public opinion officially shifted, the mainstream "leftist" media would not say shit about our side of things? 

Tx, I'm showing an open mind. Just because I'm not a complete convert doesn't mean I'm not showing an open mind. I just can't forget stuff *I* saw years ago just because people on a message board want me to.

on edit: FWIW, I would have tried to come if I had gotten your e-mail.

[Eupher]

Tx, I'm showing an open mind. Just because I'm not a complete convert doesn't mean I'm not showing an open mind. I just can't forget stuff *I* saw years ago just because people on a message board want me to.

Lanie, I think it's just a matter of time when you see the light and come in from the dark side.

Kudos to you for exhibiting some whacko, leftist thought processes, taking your lumps, but addressing the issues nonetheless.

 

[Lanie]

I haven't watched anything on FNC except Red Eye and occasionally Fox News Watch in a long time but FNC always struck me as being more fair and balanced than righty.  The reason to you it might seem like they are to the right is because nearly every other major media outlet suppresses the Conservative point of view.  Or present a warped conservative point of view like that token "conservative" who praises the Messiah for the NY Times.

It's possible that Fox has moved more to the right in recent years and that recent poll that indicated a huge majority of Americans self-identify as conservatives explains FNC's high ratings but it could simply be that more people tune in because for the actual news Fox is less biased. 

Even my life-long Democrat mom and aunt would watch Brit Hume when he was on and they also preferred Fox News Sunday after Charles Kuralt  left the CBS Sunday Morning show.  Of course in the last election my mom voted Republican for the first time ever but that had more to do with not trusting Obama, which there is a lot there not to trust.  Or maybe it was the FNC brainwashing machine.  Who can say?

I believe the real reason Obama wont show up on FNC is because he might actually get asked a few tough but fair questions.

FWIW, I also sometimes want to watch Fox news thinking they're probably reporting something that may not be seen elsewhere.

[Lanie]

Lanie, I think it's just a matter of time when you see the light and come in from the dark side.

Kudos to you for exhibiting some whacko, leftist thought processes, taking your lumps, but addressing the issues nonetheless.

 

I doubt I'll ever be a righty. While I do agree with conservatives on some stuff, I have trouble bringing myself to pull the R lever most of the time. lol.

[Eupher]

I doubt I'll ever be a righty. While I do agree with conservatives on some stuff, I have trouble bringing myself to pull the R lever most of the time. lol.

Just give it some time. Be patient. It will happen.

[jtyangel]

I doubt I'll ever be a righty. While I do agree with conservatives on some stuff, I have trouble bringing myself to pull the R lever most of the time. lol.

And a lot of that has to do with the demonization and manipulation that has gone on regarding the right. If you are indeed open-minded, doesn't it bother you that you may have been so manipulated that you 'have trouble bringing yourself to pull the R lever' even if you think it is the right person for the job? just think on that for a bit. You don't need to reply, just food for thought.

[Ree]

I doubt I'll ever be a righty. While I do agree with conservatives on some stuff, I have trouble bringing myself to pull the R lever most of the time. lol.

Then you need to grow up and start voting for the person..not the frikkin party.

[Lanie]

Then you need to grow up and start voting for the person..not the frikkin party.

I've voted for Republicans before. But honestly, what if the Republican is proposing some ideas that scare the total hell out of you? I feel about some Republican ideas the way you all do some Democrat ideas. I'd like to vote Republican next Governor election because the Democrat in office is so anti-education it's disgusting.  But knowing NC Republican politicians, the opponent is probably going to come up with something scary as crap, and I'll have to decide if it's worth it.

[AllosaursRus]

I've voted for Republicans before. But honestly, what if the Republican is proposing some ideas that scare the total hell out of you? I feel about some Republican ideas the way you all do some Democrat ideas. I'd like to vote Republican next Governor election because the Democrat in office is so anti-education it's disgusting.  But knowing NC Republican politicians, the opponent is probably going to come up with something scary as crap, and I'll have to decide if it's worth it.

If he's anti edu he's my kind of democRat! Education is f'ed up in this country, the only thing to do is throw it out the window and start over! Ever read what it took to graduate high school around 1900? Not one of our children would ever pass!

[Lanie]

If he's anti edu he's my kind of democRat! Education is f'ed up in this country, the only thing to do is throw it out the window and start over! Ever read what it took to graduate high school around 1900? Not one of our children would ever pass!

It takes more than it takes now to pass. I don't think the class of 1990 had to pass an Algebra course.

The implementation of No Child Left Behind was supposed to hold students back who couldn't pass the test. Actually addressing the issues is another matter.

You can't become a teacher now unless you get the licensure. Your GPA needs to be so high in order to be allowed into a licensure program. You also need a four year degree. You can do lateral entry, but they have to be desperate.

I remember standards being lower when I was a kid.

Anyway, the Governor is a she and not a he. If you live in NC, then her name if Bev Perdue. They make a big deal out of her being the first female Governor and supposedly a real progressive (like hell she is). I can't stand her though because she's increasing taxes like crazy, attacking education, and not showing at all where the money is going. Ugh! Disgusting. Some of this was a problem before Perdue, but she's perfecting it. Rob us blind and won't tell us where the money is going. Ugh!

[docstew]

Anyway, the Governor is a she and not a he. If you live in NC, then her name if Bev Perdue. They make a big deal out of her being the first female Governor and supposedly a real progressive (like hell she is). I can't stand her though because she's increasing taxes like crazy, attacking education, and not showing at all where the money is going. Ugh! Disgusting. Some of this was a problem before Perdue, but she's perfecting it. Rob us blind and won't tell us where the money is going. Ugh!

That second bolded sentence is proof that Bev Perdue IS a progressive.  That's the "progressive" way: confiscate people's money, dumb them down so they can't think for themselves, and hiding their real intentions.