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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: Wretched Excess on January 23, 2009, 10:21:42 PM
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an open question
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because the GOP neglected their base and refused to put forth a candidate that would truly represent the GOP. In addition, the one shining example was reined in and not allow to draw the base back together. Finally, when the candidate faced challenges, he ran and hid like a coward. The Dems made so many allegations that went unchallenged and conversely, the Dems violated ethics and again, went unchallenged. The GOP has been asleep this past election.
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Furthermore, Obama ACTED like a leader. He drew his base together, alienated folks from the GOP with slick campaign rhetoric and essentially, his campaign managers were on the ball. Like it or not, believe it or not, but it's the truth.
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because the GOP neglected their base and refused to put forth a candidate that would truly represent the GOP. In addition, the one shining example was reined in and not allow to draw the base back together. Finally, when the candidate faced challenges, he ran and hid like a coward. The Dems made so many allegations that went unchallenged and conversely, the Dems violated ethics and again, went unchallenged. The GOP has been asleep this past election.
outstanding!
not the attack would have made, but OUTSTANDING
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Furthermore, Obama ACTED like a leader. He drew his base together, alienated folks from the GOP with slick campaign rhetoric and essentially, his campaign managers were on the ball. Like it or not, believe it or not, but it's the truth.
as much as I hate to admit, he was a better leader that mccain
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Furthermore, Obama ACTED like a leader. He drew his base together, alienated folks from the GOP with slick campaign rhetoric and essentially, his campaign managers were on the ball. Like it or not, believe it or not, but it's the truth.
It was a pretty convincing act, wasn't it? Who knew Arial Bold and a slick logo could get you elected to the White House?
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hey, chris, let me know if he blows, ok?
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Yeah, he blows. Unfortunately, I have a feeling this is just the foreplay.
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Yeah, he blows. Unfortunately, I have a feeling this is just the foreplay.
speak for yourself, dick.
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If you wanted to insult me, you coulda just sent a PM.
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I don't think McCain ignored the base of the party. He chose Palin precisely because he wanted to energize to the base. And it worked.
IMO, here are the two reasons we lost the election:
1. McCain was a poor campaigner. He did not do well in the debates. He could not out-talk Obama. In hindsight, Romney or Giuliani would have debated circles around Obama.
2. The economy took a nose dive just before the election. Remember, McCain was ahead in the polls less than one month before the election. But Obama successfully linked McCain to Bush, and said McCain would give us four more years of "Bush's failed economic policies." Unfair, but it worked. People wanted a change. They got it. Let's see if they like it.
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Because McLame did not gather the conservatives until it was too late with Sarah Palin. Granted, she was a breeze of cool, clean air for those of us who were painfully deciding whether to play party or principles here. But then McCain screwed up and voted for the almost trillion dollar bailout for the mortgage and banking industries, stabbing conservatives in the back once again.
Well, look at this way. Reagan ran in 1976 after a lame duck presidency of Gerald Ford and lost. Then Carter came in, f**ked up the country for 4 years, and in came Reagan, speaking eloquently and telling the voters everything would be okay with the right policies in place and make America a "city shining on the hill" once again after years of double digit unemployment, double digit inflation, a rescue operation gone awry for the 50 Americans held hostage by the Islamist savages in Iran, etc.
I have a very good feeling since B Hussein 0bama is our 21st century Jimmy 'Tarder, Sarah Palin will be our new Ronaldus Maximus.
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I don't think McCain ignored the base of the party. He chose Palin precisely because he wanted to energize to the base. And it worked.
I disagree all the way around. The voters who were attracted to Palin would never in a million years have voted for Obama. Palin only alienated all the moderate Republicans. Every single person I know who normally would have voted Republican was scared away by her lack of experience.
IMO, here are the two reasons we lost the election:
1. McCain was a poor campaigner. He did not do well in the debates. He could not out-talk Obama. In hindsight, Romney or Giuliani would have debated circles around Obama.
Now if you can't say anything else nice about Obama surely you must admit he is a first rate orator.
2. The economy took a nose dive just before the election. Remember, McCain was ahead in the polls less than one month before the election. But Obama successfully linked McCain to Bush, and said McCain would give us four more years of "Bush's failed economic policies." Unfair, but it worked. People wanted a change. They got it. Let's see if they like it.
In hindsight Romney would have been a far better pick for a number of reason, principally for this reason but because he wouldn't have scared the moderates.
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Every single person I know who normally would have voted Republican was scared away by her lack of experience.
She doesn't lack experience. Apparently those people are gullible and would believe anything the MSM dishes out. ::)
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Now if you can't say anything else nice about Obama surely you must admit he is a first rate orator.
And I'm sure he'll be orating every commie and jihadist shitbag to come down the pike with wild abandon.
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She doesn't lack experience. Apparently those people are gullible and would believe anything the MSM dishes out. ::)
Yes she was governor (of a state that who's entire population is not even 1/4 of that of the city of Chicago.) Before that she was mayor of a town so small it makes my little town look like a thriving metropolitan city. So no, she did not have enough experience to possibly lead our country. Now I personally have a myriad of reason to be scared of her, but the lack of experience was the number one objection I heard from republicans. I'm not saying she single handily lost you the election, you'd of lost anyway but out of all the Republican I know, every single one voted for Obama and she was the #1 reason.
And I don't get my news from MSM, sorry.
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Yes she was governor (of a state that who's entire population is not even 1/4 of that of the city of Chicago.) Before that she was mayor of a town so small it makes my little town look like a thriving metropolitan city. So no, she did not have enough experience to possibly lead our country. Now I personally have a myriad of reason to be scared of her, but the lack of experience was the number one objection I heard from republicans. I'm not saying she single handily lost you the election, you'd of lost anyway but out of all the Republican I know, every single one voted for Obama and she was the #1 reason.
And I don't get my news from MSM, sorry.
Which still makes her more experienced than Bill Ayers' cabana boy you voted for.
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Obama had seven years of experience in the Illinois legislator before he became a senator. He also graduated top of his class from Harvard. Palin was barely qualified to be vice president of the PTA.
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Obama had seven years of experience in the Illinois legislator before he became a senator. He also graduated top of his class from Harvard. Palin was barely qualified to be vice president of the PTA.
What EXECUTIVE experience did Obama have (running his campaign for 2 years doesn't count)? Was he mayor of Chicago (probably not, his last name isn't Daley)? Governor of Illinois? Run a business? I'll accept anything where he had to make a decision and accept the consequences of those decisions.
There is a vast difference between being a legislator and being an executive. One of those differences is a legislator can abstain on a vote, or vote "present" (Obama's record in the Illinois State Senate: 140+ votes of present). An executive can't. To paraphrase Harry Truman, the buck stops with him.
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Obama had seven years of experience in the Illinois legislator before he became a senator. He also graduated top of his class from Harvard. Palin was barely qualified to be vice president of the PTA.
Palin had to actually get elected to her offices. Where he hid among 58 other state legislators voting "present" as a hand-picked heir to the most corrupt political machine since the Teapot Dome.
Why not talk about his 1 real turn at executive authority: the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Nevermind the fact he served with his "close family friend" the unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers--I'll give you a pass on that one. Let's talk exclusively about the $150 million dollars spent to supposedly improve education for a select group (as in: not all of them) of Chicago-area school children.
$150 million
Not every child of the 408k enrolled, just some who went to targetted schools.
What's that mone per child?
What's the result?
Why not trumpet the results as a campaign point of success?
Vice-president of the PTA? Obama STILL isn't qualified to serve in Palin's shadow.
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Now if you can't say anything else nice about Obama surely you must admit he is a first rate orator.
In hindsight Romney would have been a far better pick for a number of reason, principally for this reason but because he wouldn't have scared the moderates.
Obama can only "orate" when the script is in front of him. Put him on his own and he stumbles and bumbles.
Romney, while he may be a decent businessman, is NOT the Republican we needed. If anything, he's a RINO. Take a look at Massachusetts. It's more left than the majority of the states in the US. He has done little to change it. This is another reason the GOP failed this cycle. The few viable candidates were just too wishy-washy. I liked Fred Thompson and Duncan Hunter. Thompson didn't seem committed to winning and Hunter was pretty much ignored during the primaries.
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Obama can only "orate" when the script is in front of him. Put him on his own and he stumbles and bumbles.
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Gripping
Compelling
Awe-inspiring
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1) Mike Huckabee. I spit in his general direction every time he is on Fox;
2) "Real conservatives" voted for Obama by default (you really want me to go down this path again?);
3) Media;
4) Obama, the snake oil salesman, played his left-wing lapdog puppy constituents like the fools they are. He is far more talented than Billy-Jeff in this regard. As a die-hard political junky, you just can't help but admire how good he is at making promises, not following through on them, and then convincing his contituents that his failure to keep his promises are for their best interest.
You liberals can put a fine designer gown and makeup on your pig, but we in the GOP can still see the pig. :-)
Obama is not a fool. He will not do anything he has promised to do with regard to the economy, foreign policy, or national defense. You liberals may be handed a bone or two on the social policies (abortion etc), but don't hold your breath on the rest.
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Yes she was governor (of a state that who's entire population is not even 1/4 of that of the city of Chicago.) Before that she was mayor of a town so small it makes my little town look like a thriving metropolitan city. So no, she did not have enough experience to possibly lead our country. Now I personally have a myriad of reason to be scared of her, but the lack of experience was the number one objection I heard from republicans. I'm not saying she single handily lost you the election, you'd of lost anyway but out of all the Republican I know, every single one voted for Obama and she was the #1 reason.
And I don't get my news from MSM, sorry.
Do you know where Alaska is? [insert Tina Fey joke here]
While you may have mocked and ridiculed her for comments made about Russia, it still does not remove the fact that what she said is quite true, and carries some rather significant responsibilities. Sarah Palin is the only governor in the United States that has active duty national guard units that she oversees. She receives daily reports and high level briefings from Homeland Security, and actually has a security clearance (something your boy Obama would never be approved for). She is more aware of the threats to our country than any other governor in the United States. So yeah, that kind of makes her more qualified.
You ever been to Arkansas? It ain't exactly a booming metropolis. We'll just leave it at that. :whatever:
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Obama can only "orate" when the script is in front of him. Put him on his own and he stumbles and bumbles.
Romney, while he may be a decent businessman, is NOT the Republican we needed. If anything, he's a RINO. Take a look at Massachusetts. It's more left than the majority of the states in the US. He has done little to change it. This is another reason the GOP failed this cycle. The few viable candidates were just too wishy-washy. I liked Fred Thompson and Duncan Hunter. Thompson didn't seem committed to winning and Hunter was pretty much ignored during the primaries.
Sure Romney did. There are 16 Republicans in the MA state legislature. He accomplished a lot under those circumstances.
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1. John McCain campaigned poorly, never truly seeming to have his heart in it.
2. He and the Republicans forgot or never realized they were in a streetfight with adversaries who would and did do and say anything to win.
3. The Republicans did not have their hearts in the race or a clear-enough message.
4. The economy nose-dived in August/September.
5. The advocacy/adversary media -- once known as the news media, then mainstream media -- gave up their claim to the Fourth Estate and because the traitorous, unethical, unprofessional Fifth Column who betrayed the public's trust.
6. McCain and the Republicans did not use Sarah Palin well.
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Yes she was governor (of a state that who's entire population is not even 1/4 of that of the city of Chicago.) Before that she was mayor of a town so small it makes my little town look like a thriving metropolitan city. So no, she did not have enough experience to possibly lead our country. Now I personally have a myriad of reason to be scared of her, but the lack of experience was the number one objection I heard from republicans. I'm not saying she single handily lost you the election, you'd of lost anyway but out of all the Republican I know, every single one voted for Obama and she was the #1 reason.
And I don't get my news from MSM, sorry.
Right. And Bill Clinton really didn't have sex with that woman.
You may not get your news from the advocacy/adversary media, but from wherever it comes, you don't apparently have what it takes to analyze it correctly.
The trolls such as that responder, who fear Sarah Palin's honesty and common sense and popular appeal and genuine real-life experience, lack the intellectual horsepower and honesty to admit that Sarah Palin had more executive experience than Obama, Biden and McCain, even though McCain had been a squardron commander in the USN.
She had it as mayor, but they focus on her being mayor, but not governor. And, for the record, who cares how big the population of the state is?
What bots such as thie responder implies is that there is NO experience that qualifies someone for the presidency, other than lying, deceit, hot air, secrecy, friendliness toward terrorists, socialist/Marxist mentoring and racially divisive theology and politics.
Because that's all that Barack Obama brought to the table--that and being a creation of the cesspool called the Chicago Poitical Machine and his puppeteers here and abroad.
And, no, doofus, she did not cost the Republicans the election.
Grow up and have the testicularity to admit that one principal reason Obama is POTUS is that the advocacy/adversary media was in the bag for Obama, and spent more time counting the hairs on Palin's baby's butt than they did investigating and/or regarding ANYTHING useful about Barack Obama that would've help inform the electorate.
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Obama had seven years of experience in the Illinois legislator before he became a senator. He also graduated top of his class from Harvard. Palin was barely qualified to be vice president of the PTA.
You have to do more then vote "Present" or run for President for alot of that time
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Obama had seven years of experience in the Illinois legislator before he became a senator. He also graduated top of his class from Harvard. Palin was barely qualified to be vice president of the PTA.
I wouldn't call being a backbencher in the Illinois Senate (where you DO NOT make executive decisions) and voting present over 140 times "leadership" or "executive experience" of any kind.
Palin at least was IN CHARGE of a town, and then a state. She was a reformer, even going against members of her own party to get stuff done.
Sorry, but Obama is barely qualified to be dog catcher.
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John McCain was a poor candidate. He didn't serve to the base of the republican party and up against Obama failed to swing moderates into his voting block. Also, the downward turn of the economy got framed as "failed Bush policies" which was then tied to McCain and he never was able to break from that association.
While Palin helped with the conservative base, she didn't help with the moderates. The people revved up by Palin, weren't going to vote for Obama anyways. The top of the ticket was too weak, that even the addition of Palin couldn't overcome it.
Just my 2 cents.
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Obama had seven years of experience in the Illinois legislator before he became a senator. He also graduated top of his class from Harvard. Palin was barely qualified to be vice president of the PTA.
Your sources and information on Palin are weak and fallible. As far as your touting Obama's intelligence as a means of experience is baseless. Just because someone graduates at the top of their class at some liberal ivy league school does NOT make them a great leader or uniter. And the past three days have proven that beyond doubt.
I find it funny that this has turned into a race between palin and obama when that NEVER was the case. That was a typical liberal excuse and scare tactic. THe bottom line was it was McCain against Obama and the VP status was a factor but should NOT Have been a reason. if so then how in the HELL could Obama chant for change when he picked one of the most partisan and unchanging senators to be his Veep. I find it funny that you steep qualifications on intelligence and not on actual experience. The fact that she has turned Alaska around. That she has made great strides for some of the biggest challenges and the fact that before she was put in the VP seat she was even touted by the LIBERALS in her own state as the most effective and qualified Governor they had in quite some time. That state was fraught with corruption and she cleaned it up, even in her own back yard. And with all of Obama's 7 fabulous years in Ill he couldn't even stay far enough away from the muck that is Blogo and all the corruption that is infected within that state's legislature in ALL departments.
Seems to me that your fear has more to do with your insecure feelings about a woman with more ability and more leadership than you will ever have. This lost election had nothing to do with Palin. It had to do with McCain's inability to keep the base secure and trusting that he would do what would need to be done and the MSM ADMITTED bias toward Obama at burying controversy and keeping him up on that pedestal long enough to get him elected.
This isn't Palin's fault. If anything she was the ONE shining beacon that we needed to see to redeem our faith in a party which seemed to lose sight of our core standard for far too long.
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Well, how about this answer then.
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'its the ECONOMY stupid'...
in the words of the greatest 'politician' of the 20th century (not a compliment) & the only thing he got right...
the Dems. media & GWB did a GREAT JOB ambushing the pork cutting war hero, john mccain, by COLLAPSING the ECONOMY the month before the election...
that whole bailout stuff was bs and did more to alienate just about EVERYONE from anything to do with anything republican....
and don't tell me it all magically 'came to a head' 1 month before the election....
mccains only mistake was not being as good of a bs artist as obama, but that wouldn't hve really mattered if he wasn't always on the defensive, because the media & GWB put him there ...
and I don't just mean the liberal media... in fact, Rush limbaugh & glenn beck did more to damage john mccain than the liberal media did... (recall mccains soundbite that obama used against him 1000 times per day : " I voted w/ GWB 90% of the time" ....
well that soundbite mccain gave obama, was a response to ATTACKS being made by rush limbaugh & the neo commie media that was saying mccain was too 'liberal' to be the GOP nominee...(even though mccain is prolife & the two pussies the neo cons wanted in are pro abortion YANKEE liberal dungholes : ie rudy & mitt)
hiring carl rove did mccain in too... mccains other big msitake was hiring carl rove, who gave him incredibly bad advice & also tied him directly to what got obama elected, & that is "mccain is bush" ....
mccain was ahead in the polls until the BAILOUT ...remember that ...
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Yes she was governor (of a state that who's entire population is not even 1/4 of that of the city of Chicago.) Before that she was mayor of a town so small it makes my little town look like a thriving metropolitan city. So no, she did not have enough experience to possibly lead our country. Now I personally have a myriad of reason to be scared of her, but the lack of experience was the number one objection I heard from republicans. I'm not saying she single handily lost you the election,
Palin is the only reason McCain didn't lost any worse than he did.
Since you think that Obama had all of this grat vast wealth of experience prior to becoming President...perhaps you can point out or link to one single piece of legislation in either the State Senate or here in D.C. that he wrote.
Can you?
you'd of lost anyway but out of all the Republican I know, every single one voted for Obama and she was the #1 reason.
They you obviously don't know any Republicans and made that up out of whole cloth.
And I don't get my news from MSM, sorry.
No SuperCrash you get it from far worse places like Kos Du and Huff Po.
And it goes a long way to explaining why you are the moronic Libtard yo are.
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'its the ECONOMY stupid'...
in the words of the greatest 'politician' of the 20th century (not a compliment) & the only thing he got right...
the Dems. media & GWB did a GREAT JOB ambushing the pork cutting war hero, john mccain, by COLLAPSING the ECONOMY the month before the election...
There you go talking out of your ass again. The economy started tanking in 2006. What happened in 2006? Anyone? Anyone?
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I posted record sales in 2007 & the first 3 quarters of 2008, as did alot of Biz in hte US...
only liberal idiots think the economy was tanking ...
the economy was fundamentally sound...
tanking is what occured when GWB got onto national TV 1 month before the election & asked for a trillion dollars to prevent worldwide global depression ...
the sky is falling !!! ...
bullshiite ...
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Obama had seven years of experience in the Illinois legislator before he became a senator. He also graduated top of his class from Harvard. Palin was barely qualified to be vice president of the PTA.
The love you have for your new pres is obviously strong...
I hope it will be enough to get you through the next four years of agony while the world watches the rookie stumble through his presidency. He doesn't have a clue what the hell he is doing and that inexperience will become more evident as the left consumes more and more control of the decisions he makes. The economy and national security is way beyond his paygrade and his decisions show as much.
At first I had hoped perhaps he would grasp the gravity of his position in history and become a leader for America, but the last few days have proved to me that he is not capable of independent thought. Gitmo is a huge mistake...while symbolic and benign in the war against terrorism, it sends the message that he agrees with appeasement...as does the direction he is going with the economy. Bailout is not the answer, both of these decisions are simply a way of avoiding hard unpopular choices.
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There you go talking out of your ass again. The economy started tanking in 2006. What happened in 2006? Anyone? Anyone?
The decline of the housing market in 2006 facilitated the loosening of the credit market and as a result gave people more access to credit for crap they didnt need. This created an unsustainable bubble in the mortgage and housing market which bled over to general retail. The economy reached unsustainable growth levels by fall of 2007. By spring of 2008 energy prices were rising at such a pace that most cash strapped consumers could not keep up with the acumulated debt and the decline began.By the end of summer with all access to credit depleted the colapse began. as for the 2 years of properity? Its kinda like when a car runs outa gas...it runs the fastest just before the tank is empty.
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The decline of the housing market in 2006 facilitated the loosening of the credit market and as a result gave people more access to credit for crap they didnt need. This created an unsustainable bubble in the mortgage and housing market which bled over to general retail. The economy reached unsustainable growth levels by fall of 2007. By spring of 2008 energy prices were rising at such a pace that most cash strapped consumers could not keep up with the acumulated debt and the decline began.By the end of summer with all access to credit depleted the colapse began. as for the 2 years of properity? Its kinda like when a car runs outa gas...it runs the fastest just before the tank is empty.
I think you used too big of words for Mr. Calboon there. :-)
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I think you used too big of words for Mr. Calboon there. :-)
Sorry.... :(
How bout....
people bought shit they didnt need with money they didnt have... :-)
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Sorry.... :(
How bout....
people bought shit they didnt need with money they didnt have... :-)
:rotf:
I think that might work. But I'm not sure...if you don't see a response he may need a defibrillator, on second thought we could look at it as a means to prove how the liberal mind can't take on too much truth.
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"Mr. Calboon".
I like you more every day, Tess.
you caught that? :-)
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Because our nation has started the downturn towards "Idiocracy".
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Just a small addition.
You addition completed that perfectly.
:cheersmate:
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I posted record sales in 2007 & the first 3 quarters of 2008, as did alot of Biz in hte US...
only liberal idiots think the economy was tanking ...
the economy was fundamentally sound...
tanking is what occured when GWB got onto national TV 1 month before the election & asked for a trillion dollars to prevent worldwide global depression ...
the sky is falling !!! ...
bullshiite ...
Yes....
The sky WAS falling...
I had record profits in 07 and 08 as well but I saw the signs of trouble in early 2008.
The signs came in two new financial lending terms....."Liar loan" and "Gap insurance"....
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I posted record sales in 2007 & the first 3 quarters of 2008, as did alot of Biz in hte US...
only liberal idiots think the economy was tanking ...
the economy was fundamentally sound...
tanking is what occured when GWB got onto national TV 1 month before the election & asked for a trillion dollars to prevent worldwide global depression ...
the sky is falling !!! ...
bullshiite ...
Tell us then what your business is.
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Tell us then what your business is.
He allegedly runs a drug store somewhere in the wilds of liberal Vermont.....his sales increases are likely the result of selling weed to the old hippies out the back door.......
doc
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Tell us then what your business is.
I'll hazard: gay porn
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I posted record sales in 2007 & the first 3 quarters of 2008, as did alot of Biz in hte US...
only liberal idiots think the economy was tanking ...
the economy was fundamentally sound...
tanking is what occured when GWB got onto national TV 1 month before the election & asked for a trillion dollars to prevent worldwide global depression ...
the sky is falling !!! ...
bullshiite ...
An anecdote mans nothing. An anecdote from a known bullshit artist is worth even less. And your very post shows you know nothing of economics.
You need to stop embarrassing yourself.
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He allegedly runs a drug store somewhere in the wilds of liberal Vermont.....
And what he continually forgets to tell others is a certain post I remember him making way back when where he and his family petitioned their local state representatives to keep a large chain Pharmacy retailer out of their area because he claimed it would hurt his business. So he constantly claims he's free market, all for competition, and doesn't want gov't interference, but by his own admission he called upon the gov't to stop another business from going up against him. :loser:
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And what he continually forgets to tell others is a certain post I remember him making way back when where he and his family petitioned their local state representatives to keep a large chain Pharmacy retailer out of their area because he claimed it would hurt his business. So he constantly claims he's free market, all for competition, and doesn't want gov't interference, but by his own admission he called upon the gov't to stop another business from going up against him. :loser:
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you've got that bassackwards USA....
it was the chain pharmacy that used the state boards/zoning laws to try & keep us out...
if you're referring to the case where we had to go to the state house & lobby to keep RD's from MONOPOLIZING the practice of nutritional advice by lobbying govenrment to pass laws giving them exclusive rights to do so, to the point that not even our pharmacists or Dr's could give nutriotional advice, only an RD....
yeah, we fought that & won ... so did the AMA, ADA, AVA & jsut about everyone other than RD's ...
unlike the pathetic state of Ohio, whose economy is akin to bangladesh .... they passed the RD's monopoly protection in the early 90's & it wasn't overturned till a few years ago after the state got so fat, ugly & poor, they had no choice ...
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Yes....
The sky WAS falling...
I had record profits in 07 and 08 as well but I saw the signs of trouble in early 2008.
The signs came in two new financial lending terms....."Liar loan" and "Gap insurance"....
I agree with that...
but, 'the governments' & medias reaction was waaaay over the top ...
everything is twice as bad as it should be, thanks to overreaction & bad socialism from the top ie: bailout or die)
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you've got that bassackwards USA....
it was the chain pharmacy that used the state boards/zoning laws to try & keep us out...
Nope, that's that not you said. In fact, this is the first time you've ever tried to use this twist on what happened.
The way I stated it was the exact way you told it. I jumped your case when you told it because it showed clearly what a hypocrite you are, and as long as I'm around I'll continue to remind you and others of exactly what you did say.
The more I consider your explanation, the funnier it gets. I've lost count of how many times I've read about Wal-Mart using the state boards/zoning laws to try and keep Mom & Pop's Toothpaste World from moving in down the street. :whatever:
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Obama had seven years of experience in the Illinois legislator before he became a senator. He also graduated top of his class from Harvard. Palin was barely qualified to be vice president of the PTA.
Oh, dear, you really are naive and mind-washed and -numbed. Seven years voting "Present" and lacking the stones to stand for anything other than killing unborn and just-born children--that qualifies as "experience" for him to be POTUS?
Clearly, you're impressed by b***s*** artists, of which Barack Hussein Obama is at the world-class level. No, wait, given his megalomania, I'd better assert that he is THE best one in the world. Sorry.
His resume remains so tissue-thin that only a fool would use it to wipe certain hindparts in need of cleaning, for fear it would tear so easily.
BTW: Prove that he was at the top of his class at HLS.
Prove that the only reason that he got to HLS was something other than the color of his skin.
Better yet: Show us the transcripts from Columbia University that show his (a) nationalitiy, (b) GPA and (c) classes he took.
His classmates don't even remember him being there. Libertarian Party vice-presidential-nominee and contemporary of Obama at Columbia, if Obama was really there, Wayne Allyn Root -- Class of '83 political science, pre-law Columbia University -- said last September: "I think the most dangerous thing you should know about Barack Obama is that I don't know a single person at Columbia that knows him, and they all know me. I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia. Ever! . . .But nobody white's ever heard of this guy. It's quite amazing. Nobody remembers him. They don't remember him sitting in class."
BTW: While he purportedly was at Columbia, Obama said he was involved in the Black Students Organization. The former vice president of the Black Students Organization, Mark Attiah, has said that he, Attiah, was shocked to even learn that Obama was part of the organization.
Further, it appears that no one from Colubmia's library in the School of International Public Affairs, the building in which Obama would have had most of his classes as a poly-sci major, remembered him.
Even the chairman of the Political Science Department when Obama was an undergraduate, Mark Chalmers, doesn't remember him.
BTW2: While you're at it, get his transcripts from Occidental College, showing the same as I just mentioned from Columbia.
That's right: You can't because he's either hidden them away for the next 75 years or so, or he's destroyed them so no one will find answers to these things.
And, honey, you can trash Sarah Palin all you want.
But all your trash-talking aind ignorance, no matter how often you repeat that, will not change the facts about the superior management and executive experience Sarah Palin possesses, more even that Obama still has. .
You and Obama and the Democrats, liberals and leftists are so scared of her, scared that she actually represents real Americans, that you're beside yourselves with panties-and-shorts-soiling, sleep-disturbing, drives-you-crazy fear.
FWIW: A roundup of the coverup of the creation called Barack Hussein Obama, or Barry Obama, or Barry Soetero, or whatever his name might actually be, includes the following:
- no medical records released
- no Occidental records released
- no Harvard University records released
- no Columbia records released
- no original birth certificate released
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Palin is moron. She attended SIX different colleges in five years. She had a BA in 'communications' ::) and yet was never on a single school paper. A decade ago she was on the city council in some backwater town, whereas at that time President Obama had already served 2 years in state government in a state with the third largest US city and a large rural population. Palin is just as crocked as any other pol. Taking the money for the bridge to nowhere, never giving in back and touting THAT as an achievement. She sells her plane on Ebay for a loss and this is who you want running the country in our economic crisis should McCain have died (and at his age, that is what made her such an issue.)
As for you laughable conspiracy theories about President Obama's academic career, one doesn't graduate with doctorate from Harvard magna cum laude and obtain the position of president of the Harvard Law Review with questionable marks. He was also a lawyer and university professor for a decade before his political career, Palin was a sports reporter.
If you want to say the dozen people I know (all of whom voted for Bush even in 2004,) all of whom voted for Obama now (and everyone of which did so because Palin scared the shit out of them) are not 'real republicans,' then I say to you that THEY are in fact the real republicans, you Palin supporters are the religious zealots that have usurped their party.
So back to the OP, you gained not a single vote with your fundamentalist VP choice but lost uncountable votes of the fiscal conservatives and moderates that would have voted for McCain if he had made a better choice. Also the campaign was divisive. Now FYI, I have never in my life identified myself as a democrat (although that is how I tend to vote) I most certainly find fault with that party as well for being spineless cowards, which I suppose is one thing we can all agree on. :-)
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i may have just abused my admin powerz. :-)
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After the ronpaul invasion, I am for killing them in the womb.
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Why did we loose?
mccain.
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:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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After the ronpaul invasion, I am for killing them in the womb.
don't get carried away. we are against abortion.
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Why did we loose?
mccain.
BINGO!
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don't get carried away. we are against abortion.
I am for what will win us the war.
period.
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Why did we loose?
mccain.
Double BINGO
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I am for what will win us the war.
period.
abortion won't win us anything.
I like you a lot, dutch, but you are off on a tangent here.
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I am for what will win us the war.
period.
Even the intentional killing of unborn innocents?
tsk tsk.
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Even the intentional killing of unborn innocents?
tsk tsk.
interesting scenario. a jihadist chick is pregnant, and the israelis blow her to smithereens.
I say it's an unfortunate, but legitimate fact of war.
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Even the intentional killing of unborn innocents?
tsk tsk.
I don't have to kill them. They will.
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interesting scenario. a jihadist chick is pregnant, and the israelis blow her to smithereens.
I say it's an unfortunate, but legitimate fact of war.
Hmmm... I've never considered it from that angle. But you are correct, IMO that would be a legitimate act of war.
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Hmmm... I've never considered it from that angle. But you are correct, IMO that would be a legitimate act of war.
but you have unintentionally raised an interesting question. the unborn, while clearly alive, may stray into dangerous situations due to the unclear thinking of the mother.
I have to think this one through.
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Clearly your site is not interested in the dialectic and is simply a hang-out for back-slapping. If you want a forum where every member agrees then you ought to make that know and just have banned me out-right rather than resorting to such juvenile behavior as changing my screen name. Have fun in your cave of ignorance, I'll keep looking for more intelligent debate elsewhere.
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Clearly your site is not interested in the dialectic and is simply a hang-out for back-slapping. If you want a forum where every member agrees then you ought to make that know and just have banned me out-right rather than resorting to such juvenile behavior as changing my screen name. Have fun in your cave of ignorance, I'll keep looking for more intelligent debate elsewhere.
Sounds like alot of ronpaul retards we met once. We are just too stupid for you.
You never did answer my questions.
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Clearly your site is not interested in the dialectic and is simply a hang-out for back-slapping. If you want a forum where every member agrees then you ought to make that know and just have banned me out-right rather than resorting to such juvenile behavior as changing my screen name. Have fun in your cave of ignorance, I'll keep looking for more intelligent debate elsewhere.
Bye bye....
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Bye bye....
yeah, she/he/it was born on it's last legs.
I ****ed with her sign on. maybe it can't take a hint. :-)
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Clearly your site is not interested in the dialectic and is simply a hang-out for back-slapping. If you want a forum where every member agrees then you ought to make that know and just have banned me out-right rather than resorting to such juvenile behavior as changing my screen name. Have fun in your cave of ignorance, I'll keep looking for more intelligent debate elsewhere.
Dear Miss Behave;
**** you.
from your pals at CC.
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I think you used too big of words for Mr. Calboon there. :-)
Saying Hello is using to big of a word for that retard.
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Obama had seven years of experience in the Illinois legislator before he became a senator. He also graduated top of his class from Harvard. Palin was barely qualified to be vice president of the PTA.
That's even less, idiot that you are. And it's so obvious that you're buying the bullshit that hte MSM throws out there on a daily basis, if you think that Obama's background is in any way shape or form any kind of qualification to be leader of the free world.
No, Palin didn't have a whole lot of experience, but she did have SOMETHING, certainly a LOT more than Obama. And so what if he went to Harvard. A lot of stupid people have gone to Harvard, and it doesn't make them qualified to be President. There is nothing wrong with Palin's education.
It's funny and pathetic...ever since Obama won the election, one would think that you people would FINALLY shut up about Palin, but no. Here you are, continuing with your ridiculous lies.
Oh....
Palin is moron.
No, YOU'RE the moron. :bird: College is expensive, and she had a family to feed, so that's why she went to six different colleges. My mother's been in college nearly as long as I've been alive, and why is that? Because she had to work in order to feed me and my sisters. So **** you and the horse you rode in on. I'd be amazed if a feeble-minded asswipe like you managed to get into college, never mind graduating with a degree.
And yes, we know the ****tard with the big ears is President of this nation, no need to ****ing highlight it all over the place.
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Clearly your site is not interested in the dialectic and is simply a hang-out for back-slapping. If you want a forum where every member agrees then you ought to make that know and just have banned me out-right rather than resorting to such juvenile behavior as changing my screen name. Have fun in your cave of ignorance, I'll keep looking for more intelligent debate elsewhere.
Sure, you can leave, but it's our ball. You can't go home with it.
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She sounds like she got her definition of 'conservative' from the back of a cereal box if she thinks McCain would have gotten elected by choosing another moderate/liberal Republican for VP.
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the timer has started. :-)
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the timer has started. :-)
Let her stay.
She hasn't said anything of substance just the ol' "Palin is stupid" and "Bush is a war criminal".
All hat and no cattle.
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"He also graduated top of his class from Harvard."
When did Obama release his transcript and where can I see it?
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Palin is moron. She attended SIX different colleges in five years. She had a BA in 'communications' ::) and yet was never on a single school paper. A decade ago she was on the city council in some backwater town, whereas at that time President Obama had already served 2 years in state government in a state with the third largest US city and a large rural population. Palin is just as crocked as any other pol. Taking the money for the bridge to nowhere, never giving in back and touting THAT as an achievement. She sells her plane on Ebay for a loss and this is who you want running the country in our economic crisis should McCain have died (and at his age, that is what made her such an issue.)
As for you laughable conspiracy theories about President Obama's academic career, one doesn't graduate with doctorate from Harvard magna cum laude and obtain the position of president of the Harvard Law Review with questionable marks. He was also a lawyer and university professor for a decade before his political career, Palin was a sports reporter.
If you want to say the dozen people I know (all of whom voted for Bush even in 2004,) all of whom voted for Obama now (and everyone of which did so because Palin scared the shit out of them) are not 'real republicans,' then I say to you that THEY are in fact the real republicans, you Palin supporters are the religious zealots that have usurped their party.
So back to the OP, you gained not a single vote with your fundamentalist VP choice but lost uncountable votes of the fiscal conservatives and moderates that would have voted for McCain if he had made a better choice. Also the campaign was divisive. Now FYI, I have never in my life identified myself as a democrat (although that is how I tend to vote) I most certainly find fault with that party as well for being spineless cowards, which I suppose is one thing we can all agree on. :-)
I care little what his grades were. I want to know what classes he took. I already addressed Sarah Palin's qualifications.
You have a very little understanding of politics if you think that McCain would have won with a moderate VP pick. McCain rallied his base by picking Sarah Palin (who is a staunch conservative). He lost because he is too moderate for the far right, so they stayed home in protest.
The dozen or so folks you claim voted for GWB and now voted for Obama are not Republicans by any stretch of the imagination. A Republican would never vote for a candidate whose platform was steeped in socialism.
Now, the la-la-loon Ron Paul Libertarians are quite another story altogether, but who really wants to go there?
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Clearly your site is not interested in the dialectic and is simply a hang-out for back-slapping. If you want a forum where every member agrees then you ought to make that know and just have banned me out-right rather than resorting to such juvenile behavior as changing my screen name. Have fun in your cave of ignorance, I'll keep looking for more intelligent debate elsewhere.
Hey you stupid scrunt,
Try being called a fascist baby-killer for 5 years and having jihadists on one side and the ACLU protecting those jihadists on the other side.
FOAD you thin-skinned little shit. I hope your a slut so at least you'll be of some use to somebody somewhere.
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I skipped over a few troll-infested pages added since my last check-in. Palin was the only reason it got close to 50%, McCain sucked as a candidate, and the drumbeat of shrieking fear-mongering about the economy certainly played into the Dems hands and tipped the balance in their favor in the last month leading into the vote.
In my prejudiced view, the reasons McCain sucked as a candidate are these:
For the moderates, the MSM was very persuasive about how cool Obama was and no radical at all. Of course the Leftard radicals correctly regarded this as all a ruse and it had no negative impact whatsoever on their base...their base regarded him as sufficiently radical that no nuttier candidates were able to get any traction at all with the Leftard nutcases, which says it all on that front. The only thing to difference the two of them to the moderates was the fact that the MSM obviously thought Obama seemed a whole lot cooler.
One of the main reasons to vote for John McCain was to vote against Obama, and to a some extent Biden. McCain was intent on appearing a gentleman and statesman, apparently far more important to him than actually winning the election (And this really pisses me off, if he wanted to carry his party's banner and represent its core values and its people, it was up to him to place winning first and actually fight for it). McCain did a dismal job of capitalizing on the 'Against Obama' line and sabotaged those who tried to support him on this at several points, resulting in a schizo and broadly-ineffective effort. Aside from his stupid and unshared-by-the-opposition view of what was a fair fight, he was horrifyingly ineffective at calling the Obama campaign on what were outrageous lies about tax promises, or pointing out that all the backdoor attacks on his age applied equally-if-not-more to the often-befuddled Joe Biden.
McCain represented a party that has far too many Rockefeller Republicans in charge, a group with which he is entirely comfortable, really being one of them. This faction of RINOs and Beltway Republicans are a tiny part of the actual voting base of the GOP, however, and when they are allowed to set the agenda you can pretty well bet that the actual Red State voters are going to see damned little reason to leave the house on election day except, of course, for 'Voting against the other guy' which as noted McCain already threw away. My personal opinion is that there was intentional sabotage of Palin by some of these pukes because they would rather have Democrats win in 2012 charge than see an actual non-RINO Republican win.
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the timer has started. :-)
PLEASE let her stay!!!
I want to see how deep this rabbit hole of numbnuttery goes!!!
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Palin is moron. She attended SIX different colleges in five years. She had a BA in 'communications' ::) and yet was never on a single school paper. A decade ago she was on the city council in some backwater town, whereas at that time President Obama had already served 2 years in state government in a state with the third largest US city and a large rural population. Palin is just as crocked as any other pol. Taking the money for the bridge to nowhere, never giving in back and touting THAT as an achievement. She sells her plane on Ebay for a loss and this is who you want running the country in our economic crisis should McCain have died (and at his age, that is what made her such an issue.)
How much experience do you have in running anything other than your mouth?
What is your degree in? Or did you even graduate college?
As for you laughable conspiracy theories about President Obama's academic career, one doesn't graduate with doctorate from Harvard magna cum laude and obtain the position of president of the Harvard Law Review with questionable marks. He was also a lawyer and university professor for a decade before his political career, Palin was a sports reporter.
Yet no one can remember him being there.
And as for your crack about Governor Palin...at least...unlike you...she's gainfully employed.
If you want to say the dozen people I know (all of whom voted for Bush even in 2004,) all of whom voted for Obama now (and everyone of which did so because Palin scared the shit out of them) are not 'real republicans,' then I say to you that THEY are in fact the real republicans, you Palin supporters are the religious zealots that have usurped their party.
Yes I know that in your head your imaginary friends seem real and call themselves Republicans.
However here in reality...
So back to the OP, you gained not a single vote with your fundamentalist VP choice but lost uncountable votes of the fiscal conservatives and moderates that would have voted for McCain if he had made a better choice. Also the campaign was divisive. Now FYI, I have never in my life identified myself as a democrat (although that is how I tend to vote) I most certainly find fault with that party as well for being spineless cowards, which I suppose is one thing we can all agree on. :-)
Governor Sarah palin is the ONLY reason Sen. McCain got as many votes as he did.
So is this the BEST you've got SuperCrash? Just repeating mindless drivel you've cut and pasted from Kos/HuffPo/Du?
You sound more like someone who cut and pasted the bullsh*t from last nights transcript of Countdown to No Ratings than someone who actualy has a functioning brain.
Trying coming up with something that you thought of...not what someone else told you to say.
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Clearly your site is not interested in the dialectic and is simply a hang-out for back-slapping.
No what we're interested in is INTELLIGENT conversation.
We even have a Democrat that is a Mod here.
She is everything you're not.
If you want a forum where every member agrees then you ought to make that know and just have banned me out-right rather than resorting to such juvenile behavior as changing my screen name. Have fun in your cave of ignorance, I'll keep looking for more intelligent debate elsewhere.
This isn't an echo chamber like your original home over at the DUmp.
It says a lot about how little actual intellectual prowess that you posses that an echo chamber place like that wold kick you out.
Hell you even got booted from LU...nothing says "pathetic looser" like getting booted from a cesspool that champions scumbags like NightOwl and TheRabbi.
You probably won't get banned here unless you violate a forum rule like you did with your last screen name.
Thankfully for you ...stupidity isn't a bannable offense.
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Hey you stupid scrunt,
Try being called a fascist baby-killer for 5 years and having jihadists on one side and the ACLU protecting those jihadists on the other side.
FOAD you thin-skinned little shit. I hope your a slut so at least you'll be of some use to somebody somewhere.
Only to somebody desperate.
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Clearly your site is not interested in the dialectic and is simply a hang-out for back-slapping. If you want a forum where every member agrees then you ought to make that know and just have banned me out-right rather than resorting to such juvenile behavior as changing my screen name. Have fun in your cave of ignorance, I'll keep looking for more intelligent debate elsewhere.
You're so cute in your ignorance. I voted for Obama. I posted my opinion in this thread about the election. You don't see anyone taking me to task over it.
I'm friends with plenty of republicans in RL (hell, I do live in Texas) and not one true conservative voted for Obama b/c of Palin. No true conservative would have voted for Obama anyways.
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Clearly your site is not interested in the dialectic and is simply a hang-out for back-slapping. If you want a forum where every member agrees then you ought to make that know and just have banned me out-right rather than resorting to such juvenile behavior as changing my screen name. Have fun in your cave of ignorance, I'll keep looking for more intelligent debate elsewhere.
Yeah, well your Harvard-educated big-eared ****ing moron is acting more and more like a damn despot to me. Shutting out the media, telling people who they should and should not listen to, since when is it a President's responsibility to dictate shit like this, especially in a free nation? Bush was disparaged on a DAILY basis; this jackass threatens people who talk about his ****ing ears.
BTW, when in the HELL does voting present over 100 f'n times, and being a legislator, trump actual executive experience? ...and yes, she IS college-educated.
****in' idiot.
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Palin is moron. She attended SIX different colleges in five years. She had a BA in 'communications' ::) and yet was never on a single school paper. A decade ago she was on the city council in some backwater town, whereas at that time President Obama had already served 2 years in state government in a state with the third largest US city and a large rural population. Palin is just as crocked as any other pol. Taking the money for the bridge to nowhere, never giving in back and touting THAT as an achievement. She sells her plane on Ebay for a loss and this is who you want running the country in our economic crisis should McCain have died (and at his age, that is what made her such an issue.)
As for you laughable conspiracy theories about President Obama's academic career, one doesn't graduate with doctorate from Harvard magna cum laude and obtain the position of president of the Harvard Law Review with questionable marks. He was also a lawyer and university professor for a decade before his political career, Palin was a sports reporter.
If you want to say the dozen people I know (all of whom voted for Bush even in 2004,) all of whom voted for Obama now (and everyone of which did so because Palin scared the shit out of them) are not 'real republicans,' then I say to you that THEY are in fact the real republicans, you Palin supporters are the religious zealots that have usurped their party.
So back to the OP, you gained not a single vote with your fundamentalist VP choice but lost uncountable votes of the fiscal conservatives and moderates that would have voted for McCain if he had made a better choice. Also the campaign was divisive. Now FYI, I have never in my life identified myself as a democrat (although that is how I tend to vote) I most certainly find fault with that party as well for being spineless cowards, which I suppose is one thing we can all agree on. :-)
Palin is moron? Please.
Obama graduated with "doctorate" from Harvard. Yep, Juris Doctor, which used to be LLB, as in Bachelor Letters of Law, translated. It means he got a professional degree, a law degree. It's what EVERY law school in America gives.
And, BTW, given that Obama and Harvard have not released his records, none of us, including the Obama-defending/Palin-bashing respondent, actually know whether he graduated with highest honors, or honors at all. Until he proves it, until she proves it, all we can assume, must assume, is that he did graduate from HLS.
BTW: Should this respondent attempt to work for Uncle Sugar, she would have to present a transcript of her collegiate career, if she had one. Seems only reasonable that the head of all the federal government should be required to do the same.
But, enough, for this tar baby, whatever her name is.
Minds like hers are snapped shut, so tightly that nothing can penetrate its bias, its misogynist, fraidy-cat, jealous-of-Palin, lack-of-proportion mind.
One last thing, though: Do you notice how she and the defenders of Obama always talk about the population of the state in which he was a legislator, and how they put down Wassila as a "back water" town?
They forget, of course, politician Bill Clinton. But, wait, he was a governor, wasn't he of what some might consider -- or even considered back when the Democrat Party actually vetted its presidential candidates -- a backwater state? I mean no offense to Arkansans, mind you -- I live in a state that the Obama-supporting, Palin-bashing respondent would definitely call "backwater" and in a town she'd call the same -- but I do recall that there was concern among the Democrat powers-that-were when he surfaced about that.
Regardless, I guess now, though, if you're in the lower 48, that's OK.
And, best I remember, tiny Delaware from whence Joe Biden comes is only a couple of hundred thousand bigger in population than Alaska. Guess that the nearly 900,000 population in Delaware is the cutoff for being in a state that can qualify someone for national office?
And Palin being commander of the Alaska National Guard? Negotiating with Canada on that trans-Canada pipeline nd succeeding in getting that $40-billion-or-so largest infrastructure project in North America? Getting the petroleum-refining-and-marketing companies to yield to her demands?
Yes, Obama voting present in the Illinois legislator and advancing the death of unborn and just-born children is the equivalent--if you're a close-minded Democrat, liberal and leftist who cannot find any other thing, any other experience about which to advance for Obama's qualifications.
Face it: Miss Whatever's constipated intellectually, and neither heaven or earth will unplug those obstructed mental and emotional feces.
Too bad. Passion like hers could be used to such good, unlike its waste now.
Oops. One more thing: Why do the Democrats, liberals and lefists, men and women alike -- and it does seem to be more prevalent amongst those who identify, through insinuation or not, of being urbanites or suburbanites -- fear Sarah Palin so?
Why did they make such a ruckus about her on the ticket, when McCain was the presidential candidate?
They didn't even have the wherewithal to know against whom they were running, it appeared.
And they expect sane people to believe them or their political philosophy?
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You're so cute in your ignorance. I voted for Obama. I posted my opinion in this thread about the election. You don't see anyone taking me to task over it.
I'm friends with plenty of republicans in RL (hell, I do live in Texas) and not one true conservative voted for Obama b/c of Palin. No true conservative would have voted for Obama anyways.
That is because you are a good person Mia....and that is what is most important in life.
Party affilliation doesn`t change that. :)
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That is because you are a good person Mia....and that is what is most important in life.
Party affilliation doesn`t change that. :)
Well I think the difference is while I may disagree with people on politics on here, I don't treat those differences as ignorance and stupidity from those that believe differently than I.
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Well I think the difference is while I may disagree with people on politics on here, I don't treat those differences as ignorance and stupidity from those that believe differently than I.
And unlike some mindless drone in this thread .You are treating us as we have always treaded you. Like you should treat a person. The troll here acts as if they are the only one with the answers.
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And unlike some mindless drone in this thread .You are treating us as we have always treaded you. Like you should treat a person. The troll here acts as if they are the only one with the answers.
There's a respect factor and the fact that I don't view people that disagree with me as the "enemy." It's better to understand why people disagree with you than to just shout them down. If you're always closed to different viewpoints, you'll never grow as a person.
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There's a respect factor and the fact that I don't view people that disagree with me as the "enemy." It's better to understand why people disagree with you than to just shout them down. If you're always closed to different viewpoints, you'll never grow as a person.
You've never met a Paulbot have you?
;)
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You've never met a Paulbot have you?
;)
Oh, trust me--there's a level of depravity to Paulbots that frankly scared me. Just ask formerlurker, Red, or Scoobs. One of them who didn't like me or my opinions called my HR department claiming I was stalking/harassing her.
Not the police. Not the courts. Not the board moderators. MY ****ING HR. I could have easily been fired. As it was, I got a good talking to and a letter in my file. She got banned from the board.
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You've never met a Paulbot have you?
;)
Oh, I've seen them, I just ignore them. :)
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Oh, trust me--there's a level of depravity to Paulbots that frankly scared me. Just ask formerlurker, Red, or Scoobs. One of them who didn't like me or my opinions called my HR department claiming I was stalking/harassing her.
Not the police. Not the courts. Not the board moderators. MY ****ING HR. I could have easily been fired. As it was, I got a good talking to and a letter in my file. She got banned from the board.
I remember that incident -- you should have sued her.
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Oh, I've seen them, I just ignore them. :)
Proof that not all points of view are necessarily "good."
Or "grounded in reality."
Or "not just plain nucking futs."
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I remember that incident -- you should have sued her.
I should have, but she didn't have anything in the first place. Not that there's anything of hers that I wanted except her absence.
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So......which are you? Look the personality split right before our eyes. :whatever:
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BTW, when . . .does voting present over 100 . . . times, and being a legislator, trump actual executive experience?
When you're an Obamabot who lacks intellectual horsepower and honesty, and who is clueless about what constitutes real-life experience versus whatever else.
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Well I think the difference is while I may disagree with people on politics on here, I don't treat those differences as ignorance and stupidity from those that believe differently than I.
I am not loyal to any politicaly party. I have known Democrats who are conservatives and Republicans who are liberal, while I have known religious people who are liberal, while non-religious people who are conservative.
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I am not loyal to any politicaly party. I have known Democrats who are conservatives and Republicans who are liberal, while I have known religious people who are liberal, while non-religious people who are conservative.
And neither am I. I'm a moderate leaning left and will vote for whomever I think is best.
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And neither am I. I'm a moderate leaning left and will vote for whomever I think is best.
Too bad you chose otherwise this time.
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Well I think the difference is while I may disagree with people on politics on here, I don't treat those differences as ignorance and stupidity from those that believe differently than I.
That is why people like Supercrash don't last at sites where the majority don't agree with his view. Like I said in the thread that was deleted, "Shit in...shit out". They are to blame for the way they are treated. If they came here for an honest debate rather than trying to "school" us and be little friggen pukes in the process, they wouldn't get same treatment back at them.