sparkling husband primitive attempting to be optimistic

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6016401

The sparkling husband primitive, who seems as obsessed with free medical care for all, as the mountain man primitive, the "ThomWVA" primitive.  They're both about the same age; maybe they think free medical care for all will keep them alive forever.

Stinky The Clown  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jul-08-09 05:44 PM
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My attempt at optimism regarding health care.

The House pretty much has the votes to do something meaningful on health care.

The problem is in the Senate, where the Blue Dogs are trying to make themselves meaningful. All we need from these ****ers is a vote for cloture. Not for a bill. Cloture. And that might be brought about by arm twisting more easily than an actual bill. And that would then bring a bill to the floor for that good old "upperdown" vote.

Then on to committee. And hopefully an improved bill.

And then, I think, we're down to the need for two simple majority votes. And then we need a presidential signature.

Lots of room for lots of devils to find details with which to dance, to be sure.

But yeah ..... maybe we *can* get something done.

...... or not.

Oh, I dunno.

Guess who shows up.....the bobbling primitive, who sure could use some of that rental housing the sparkling husband primitive owns.

bobbolink  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jul-08-09 05:47 PM
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1. Our favorite socialist senator is working to get that cloture agreement.

Send him support!

wtbymark (1000+ posts)        Wed Jul-08-09 05:51 PM
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4. B e r n i e

Yeah, Jr. from Vermont, the senescent old guy who spitters and sputters, sputtering spittle in righteous indignation on those standing near him.

If franksolich ever had to testify in front of Jr. from Vermont, franksolich would demand a 3/4"-thick plexiglass screen, to avoid the precipitation.

bobbolink  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jul-08-09 05:56 PM
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6. He's the ONE! Wish he were my Senator!

I'd trade BOTH Udall and Bennett for him anyday!

phantom power  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jul-08-09 05:50 PM
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3. The fact that they could...is going to just make it all the more enraging when they don't.

That was MY attempt at optimism. Did it work?

franksolich predicts they won't.

bobbolink  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jul-08-09 05:54 PM
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5. If your realism comes to pass, it will spell the end of the Democratic party.

Ed Schultz has been pounding on that very thing.

They can either wipe out the Republicans by doing the right thing on this, or they can wipe out themselves.

I think it will be one or the other.

Taking bets?

Stinky The Clown  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jul-08-09 06:00 PM
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7. The word all of them seem to have forgotten is "Bold"

I apply that to all of them, from top to bottom.

That includes our president.

It applies to the lowliest freshman in Congress.

DU AdBot (1000+ posts)      Wed Jul 08th 2009, 06:26 PM
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[The Village Idiot]

They are so unintelligent its crazy. They act like its a brave thing to vote for a spineless bill like that

[AllosaursRus]

I guess it's okay with these asshats that our reps don't even read what they pass into law! Son of a.............!!!!!!!!!

[Karin]

Adbot comes through again!

I think you're right, Frank, that they think that gov't health care will keep them alive forever.  In truth, at their ages, they'll be the first to go. 

Funny about the spittering and sputtering.

[franksolich]

Funny about the spittering and sputtering.

I've watched Jr. from Vermont ever since he was a lowly congressman.

Hearing people notice only his sanctimonious self-righteous indignation against all that is good and decent.

Myself being deaf, I have the necessity of having to stand very close to people talking to me.  Generally close enough that their dental condition is the most obvious thing to me, than any other feature about themselves (sex, color, height, hair, whatnot).  I've had a lifetime of experience of judging the sorts who launch saliva, and those who don't.

When seeing Jr. from Vermont on television, because of his Great Age, the negligence that comes with senescence, and the fury of his sanctimonious self-righteous indignation, it's obvious that up close, he sputs out a lot of spit.

If close to him, I'd like to have a transparent plexiglass shield between us.

[delilahmused]

It never occurs to them to think about why these so called "Blue Dogs" aren't buying the whole socialist health care thing. If this was popular with "the masses" no arm twisting would be necessary. But they never think beyond their own noses. They just believe everyone is like them despite poll after poll that shows the country thinks congress is too far to the left and poll after poll that most people here consider themselves right of center.

Cindie

[The Village Idiot]

It never occurs to them to think about why these so called "Blue Dogs" aren't buying the whole socialist health care thing. If this was popular with "the masses" no arm twisting would be necessary. But they never think beyond their own noses. They just believe everyone is like them despite poll after poll that shows the country thinks congress is too far to the left and poll after poll that most people here consider themselves right of center.

Cindie

Thats exactly how they think. They think a petition signed by 10,000 in Nebraska should be evidence enough that the state is far left, and indication otherwise is just fraudulent or something.

[Karin]

Cindie, maybe that's why they go into desparate panic when banned for a short while.  All the begging and pleading to Skinner to let them back in.  They HAVE to have their echo chamber. 

[BlueStateSaint]

It never occurs to them to think about why these so called "Blue Dogs" aren't buying the whole socialist health care thing. If this was popular with "the masses" no arm twisting would be necessary. But they never think beyond their own noses. They just believe everyone is like them despite poll after poll that shows the country thinks congress is too far to the left and poll after poll that most people here consider themselves right of center.

Cindie

Ding!  Ding!  Ding!

Where's the H5 button?