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DU: What are our Shared beliefs?
« on: February 04, 2010, 03:06:42 PM »
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DU: What are our Shared beliefs?

In 2001 I found DU (and before that BartCop). Over nearly a decade of reading and posting, I have some sense of what true DUers hold dear. Have those general beliefs ever been distilled into, for lack of better terms, a Manifesto, Bible or Bill of Rights?

For instance my starting core beliefs, though not eloquently nor legally written, are listed below in order. These are building blocks of what I feel are a given for people of the World in general and Citizens of the United States specifically.


My list goes:


1. Equality. Equality regardless sex, color, nationality, Religion, sexual orientation... etc. The ERA was never ratified.


2. Sustainable environment practices. But how to frame this idea is difficult.


3. Every person deserves access to the best education available.


4. Health Care for all as a Right.




Any DUer want to flesh out these ideas and add the myriad of other concerns from Corporate Personage, Taxation, Gun Rights to Legalizing Drug use and the like? I would believe we here at DU could outline and distill a Document outlining our shared believes. Any DUer could sign on, or challenge the beliefs, as to make it a living Document.

DU unified behind stated beliefs could give us a stronger voice.

So DUers what are our shared beliefs and do we want to set them down to words?

 


Oh goodness gracious, this should be a fun thread. :mental:
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Re: DU: What are our Shared beliefs?
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2010, 03:26:29 PM »
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3. Every person deserves access to the best education available.

3. Every person does have access to the best education available. You want it handed to you on a silver salver.
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Re: DU: What are our Shared beliefs?
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2010, 03:29:54 PM »
free ponies for DUmmies and free wimmins for the rest of us?
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Re: DU: What are our Shared beliefs?
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2010, 03:33:13 PM »
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12. Without economic justice, I don't see what the rest of these "shared beliefs" amount to...

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Re: DU: What are our Shared beliefs?
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2010, 04:27:37 PM »
They are bound together far more by shared hatreds than any shared beliefs.
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Re: DU: What are our Shared beliefs?
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2010, 04:29:44 PM »
Fascism in a new wrapping...
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Re: DU: What are our Shared beliefs?
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2010, 05:06:12 PM »
Belief 1: It's Bush's Fault

Belief 2: See Belief 1
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Re: DU: What are our Shared beliefs?
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2010, 05:11:41 PM »
So, insanity is considered a "belief" now?
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Re: DU: What are our Shared beliefs?
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2010, 05:39:29 PM »
Quote from: FGL on February 04, 2010, 03:29:54 PM
free ponies for DUmmies and free wimmins for the rest of us?

Oh, ponies and butterflies might be free but women never will be!

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Re: DU: What are our Shared beliefs?
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2010, 05:54:48 PM »
  My beliefs are :


      There really is a God
Humanity is one family
       Woman and men are equal
Our family's are important
         It is OK to think for yourself
Science and religion can agree
           We were created by love to live in Joy.
Our souls are immortal
             MY efforts count.

 My faith is not of that anyone else on the board.  Perhaps Frank who reads much will recognise my faith, we are very small perhaps 4 million in the world.

Iran------27 woman in prison waithing for a death sentence to be carried out.   The crime was to follow my faith.  
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Re: DU: What are our Shared beliefs?
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2010, 05:59:13 PM »
Quote from: delilahmused on February 04, 2010, 05:39:29 PM
Oh, ponies and butterflies might be free but women never will be!

Cindie

I don't know. We better ask B Huessin O about that. He's awaiting 72 of em.
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Re: DU: What are our Shared beliefs?
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2010, 06:00:24 PM »
Quote from: delilahmused on February 04, 2010, 05:39:29 PM
Oh, ponies and butterflies might be free but women never will be!

Cindie
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Re: DU: What are our Shared beliefs?
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2010, 06:02:23 PM »
Quote from: delilahmused on February 04, 2010, 05:39:29 PM
Oh, ponies and butterflies might be free but women never will be!

Cindie

Ain't that the truth.
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Re: DU: What are our Shared beliefs?
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2010, 06:03:59 PM »
Quote from: vesta111 on February 04, 2010, 05:54:48 PM
Iran------27 woman in prison waithing for a death sentence to be carried out.   The crime was to follow my faith.  

I hear Iran has special guards to make sure women aren't put to death while virgins.
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Re: DU: What are our Shared beliefs?
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2010, 06:31:58 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on February 04, 2010, 06:00:24 PM
But if you're a rock star, you get money for nothing and your chicks for free.

We got to install microwave ovens!  Custom kitchen deliveries!
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Re: DU: What are our Shared beliefs?
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2010, 06:37:19 PM »
Their shared beliefs? Hate Republicans, hate Christians, hate conservatives, vote Democrat, all because they're told to.
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Re: DU: What are our Shared beliefs?
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2010, 06:54:36 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on February 04, 2010, 06:00:24 PM
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Re: DU: What are our Shared beliefs?
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2010, 07:10:35 PM »
Quote from: blitzkrieg_17 on February 04, 2010, 06:37:19 PM
Their shared beliefs? Hate Republicans, hate Christians, hate conservatives, vote Democrat, all because they're told to.

Don't forget the big unifier of their collective faith: offering pure, unblemished, unborn children as sacrifices upon the altar to their bloody-handed "gods" (The Lib'ril Nanny State being chief among 'em).
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Re: DU: What are our Shared beliefs?
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2010, 07:14:09 PM »
Quote from: blitzkrieg_17 on February 04, 2010, 06:37:19 PM
Their shared beliefs? Hate Republicans, hate Christians, hate conservatives, vote Democrat, all because they're told to.
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Re: DU: What are our Shared beliefs?
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2010, 08:35:20 PM »
No matter how long I live I will never understand the meaningless phrase "economic justice". 

I can see how it might have a sideline meaning when discussing the fact that capitalism is the only system that offers equal opportunity to all, but even in that context it is over-dramatic, without a point, and mostly meaningless. 
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Re: DU: What are our Shared beliefs?
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2010, 08:44:54 PM »
Quote from: Lord Undies on February 04, 2010, 08:35:20 PM
No matter how long I live I will never understand the meaningless phrase "economic justice". 


"Economic justice" in DUmbass-speak is really simple:  "What's mine is mine, and what's yours is mine".
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