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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on July 09, 2013, 07:18:08 PM
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It seems the reality is beginning to dawn on them: they never had a case despite all their hate-mongering. The sense of despondency is palpable.
gopiscrap (2,671 posts)
Zimmerman trial
do you think the prosecution has been told by higher ups (gov etc) to sandbag this trial (I personally think that there is a whole lot of money behind the defense such as NRA etc)
Little Star (11,929 posts)
1. I think there is a very real possibility because
a guilty verdict could leave the Sanford police, etc. open to law suits. jmho
katmondoo (1,814 posts)
2. I agree even the media shows bias
Little Star (11,929 posts)
3. +1 And...
the media has many, many more defense lawyers weighing in. They are like a pack who always take the side of the defense, imho.
asjr (9,800 posts)
4. I am so afraid that it is true. I have stopped
watching it. The defense has gone so overboard they have managed to place doubt in the jurors minds. If the jury will just realize Z was STALKING Trayvon after lying to the dispatcher that alone should make the jurors take notice. Z went after him with a gun in his belt. There is no doubt in my mind Z wanted to make the police dept take notice that he would be a good candidate for the force. Z was obsessive about being on the force.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023207634
Next:
"Won't someone think of the children...
...Zimmerman will kill if he's set free!"
Hugabear (9,915 posts)
If Zimmerman goes free, he will kill again
He'll know that he got away with murder.
He'll spend the rest of his life looking over his shoulder, looking for "threats", because that's how he sees the world. He's going to view every young black male as a potential threat, just as he's been doing for years.
Eventually he'll put himself in a situation where he'll once again pull his gun (which he'll still be allowed to carry) and use it to take another life. He'll claim once again that he was in fear of his life. More than likely the local law enforcement will be sympathetic to his cause, and history will repeat itself.
Sounds to me someone is trying to justify an assassination.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023211830
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So far the majority of the witnesses did well for the defense, including the prosecution witnesses. The prosecution is failing because they didn't have a case to start with. It was all racially and politically pushed to charge Zimmerman.
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So far the majority of the witnesses did well for the defense, including the prosecution witnesses. The prosecution is failing because they didn't have a case to start with. It was all racially and politically pushed to charge Zimmerman.
Without racism the Proglodytes are powerless.
Their only claim in life is to protect people from the evil depredations of the racist, sexist, theocratic GOP.
If we aren't motivated by race, sex or a desire to impose a theocracy then they have to manufacture the threat to keep their sheep rattled in the sheep pens.
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I'm anesthetized to the racism charge and have always been against rioting.
We are all Korean store owners now.
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I'm anesthetized to the racism charge and have always been against rioting.
We are all Korean store owners now.
Luckily we're not Korean pilots.
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I've lost count of the number of posts where some primitive has said that Z's either going to prison where he'll be killed or if he goes free they hope someone kills him.
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The defense has gone so overboard they have managed to place doubt in the jurors minds.
Isn't that their job? Why you DUmmys hating on defense attorneys now?
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Isn't that their job? Why you DUmmys hating on defense attorneys now?
They love the ones on the plaintiff's bar, and the ones that get their corrupt lib leaders out of legal jeopardy.
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Given the jury make up I have a hard time believing justice will be blind. :banghead:
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Given the jury make up I have a hard time believing justice will be blind. :banghead:
Yeah, it may be deaf and DUmb, too.
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gopiscrap (2,671 posts)
Zimmerman trial
do you think the prosecution has been told by higher ups (gov etc) to sandbag this trial (I personally think that there is a whole lot of money behind the defense such as NRA etc)
Which, of course, made the prosecutions case fall apart like a Democrat Health Care scheme.
The defense has gone so overboard they have managed to place doubt in the jurors minds.
:rofl:
(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.5029811492620323&pid=1.7)
Luckily we're not Korean pilots.
:rotf: :hi5:
asjr (9,800 posts)
4. I am so afraid that it is true. I have stopped
watching it. The defense has gone so overboard they have managed to place doubt in the jurors minds. If the jury will just realize Z was STALKING Trayvon after lying to the dispatcher that alone should make the jurors take notice. Z went after him with a gun in his belt. There is no doubt in my mind Z wanted to make the police dept take notice that he would be a good candidate for the force. Z was obsessive about being on the force.
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Don't be a (D)U-bee.
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asjr (9,800 posts)
4. I am so afraid that it is true. I have stopped
watching it. The defense has gone so overboard they have managed to place doubt in the jurors minds. If the jury will just realize Z was STALKING Trayvon after lying to the dispatcher that alone should make the jurors take notice. Z went after him with a gun in his belt. There is no doubt in my mind Z wanted to make the police dept take notice that he would be a good candidate for the force. Z was obsessive about being on the force.
I've heard this 'lying to the dispatcher' claim several times. I've even heard it from some of the HLN talking heads. Has anyone said what the alleged lie was suppose to be?
And asjr needs to get up to date on the lib talking points because the last I heard the left is now trying to claim that Zimmerman already had his gun out. Of course, that story may already have changed. The left's scenario has changed several times so it's hard to keep track.
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I have a DUmb question....would rubbing your cartridges with a lightly oiled rag aid in better/faster chambering of said round in a semiautomatic weapon?
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I've heard this 'lying to the dispatcher' claim several times. I've even heard it from some of the HLN talking heads. Has anyone said what the alleged lie was suppose to be?
A bunch of nonsense, as usual.
Shankapotomus
Didn't Zimmerman lie to the 911 dispatcher?
Dispatcher: "Are you following him?"
Zimmerman: "Yeah."
Dispatcher: "Okay, you don't need to do that."
Zimmerman: "Ok."
By responding "Ok" to the dispatcher, Zimmerman appears to confirm he would abide by the dispatcher's request.
But if you listen carefully to the 911 call, you can still hear Zimmerman breathing heavily and the sound of the wind that suggests strongly that Zimmerman is still moving. And, as we know from Zimmerman's own words, Trayvon was moving AWAY from Zimmerman. So how did Zimmerman and Martin end up in a violent struggle if Zimmerman wasn't still pursuing Martin? We know now that they DID confront each other, resulting in Trayvon's death.
So doesn't this strongly suggest Zimmerman was lying to the dispatcher?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002489373
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asjr (9,800 posts)
4. I am so afraid that it is true. I have stopped
watching it. The defense has gone so overboard they have managed to place doubt in the jurors minds.
DUmbass logic.....going overboard = doing what they were hired to do.
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Shankapotomus
Didn't Zimmerman lie to the 911 dispatcher?
Dispatcher: "Are you following him?"
Zimmerman: "Yeah."
Dispatcher: "Okay, you don't need to do that."
Zimmerman: "Ok."
By responding "Ok" to the dispatcher, Zimmerman appears to confirm he would abide by the dispatcher's request.
But if you listen carefully to the 911 call, you can still hear Zimmerman breathing heavily and the sound of the wind that suggests strongly that Zimmerman is still moving. And, as we know from Zimmerman's own words, Trayvon was moving AWAY from Zimmerman. So how did Zimmerman and Martin end up in a violent struggle if Zimmerman wasn't still pursuing Martin? We know now that they DID confront each other, resulting in Trayvon's death.
So doesn't this strongly suggest Zimmerman was lying to the dispatcher?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002489373
What it suggest to me is that Martin ran, hid in the bushes and then ran up and attacked Zimmerman....
WOW see how 2 different aspects are seen from your narrative.
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I'd find their contortions a lot more humorous if it weren't for the fact they're using them to stoke race riots.
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I have a DUmb question....would rubbing your cartridges with a lightly oiled rag aid in better/faster chambering of said round in a semiautomatic weapon?
Negative . The risk of oil penetrating the area where your primer is seated is too great. Polish the feed ramp and the use quality mags is all you need.
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DUmbass logic.....going overboard = doing what they were hired to do.
That's because it goes against their issue about actually working and earning a living.
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Is there some new law about lying to a dispatcher?
Didn't think so.
As to the wanna be cop meme. One witness that coordinates the neighborhood watches for the police offered George a job with a uniform of some type to liaison with the police and the watches. George turned it down pretty much destroying that made up lie from the msm. Other witnesses stated that George was working toward being a lawyer.
I'm not sure which team is more crazy; the DUchebags or the msm douchebags so invested in the hoped up charges and bringing on riots? The talking points are almost identical, just like the democrat party and Al Qaeda talking points.
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I have a DUmb question....would rubbing your cartridges with a lightly oiled rag aid in better/faster chambering of said round in a semiautomatic weapon?
Probably not.
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nick searcy â€@yesnicksearcy 6m
If they happen, They should be called the Barack "If I had A Son" Obama Riots.
:fuelfire:
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Given the jury make up I have a hard time believing justice will be blind.
The jury is six women, and they professed to being the only six people in the free world who had not heard about the Zimmerman case before trial.
You have to wonder if people that oblivious to their surroundings can even understand the testimony.
They were either lying when questioned during jury selection, or they're dumber than rocks.
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The jury is six women, and they professed to being the only six people in the free world who had not heard about the Zimmerman case before trial.
You have to wonder if people that oblivious to their surroundings can even understand the testimony.
They were either lying when questioned during jury selection, or they're dumber than rocks.
They must all be democrats.
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uppityperson (75,583 posts)
You know what? It's not just Zimmerman.
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It is the fact that nothing was done for over a month until public opinion picked up and demanded it. It was the evidence collected being held improperly, getting moldy. It is not doing drug or alcohol testing on the one who shot and killed but only on the one killed. It is the sweeping under the rug-ness of it, whether due to racism, cop-ism, family string, whatever. It is not just Zimmy getting away with it and having absolutely no remorse. It is not just the way the father was FINALLY notified or how long it took.
It is the whole thing. Not just the lies and the lying lier. But the whole unfairness of it all. It is proof again that the system, while better than some, is rigged so badly that you can kill someone based on false assumptions and get by with it. You can do whatever you want, if you live in the right place, with the right people in positions of power.
We have come so far and have so far yet to go.
Or maybe your a racist thug trying to kill an innocent man to explain away your miserable failure of a life.
Bjorn Against (8,390 posts)
1. You can tell the prosecution is trying to protect the cops from embarassment
They should have grilled the cops as to why they went so easy on Zimmerman, instead they allowed them to tell the jury all kinds of nice things about Zimmerman without serious confrontation. The evidence against Zimmerman is overwhelming so this should be an open and shut case, but I worry Zimmerman will walk in large part because the prosecution won't take up any line of questioning that might embarrass the police.
And Obama doesn't play socialist hardball.
MH1 (12,903 posts)
3. Exactly. And the precedent it sets if GZ walks.
Wannabe enforcers will be all over the place ready to shoot someone who looks at them cross-eyed.
I still don't believe that TM started the fight. (Why would he have kept talking on the phone if he was going to start a fight??? Makes no f*cking sense.)
DonCoquixote (5,877 posts)
7. especially since Voting rights are open to attack
You think there are not people getting together on how to legally shoot a black voter right in time to scare people away from the polls?
^ fantasy
reality...
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rustydog (8,164 posts)
6. Yes and no...It was ALEC and their ******* stand your grounds lasw they are passing
in state after state. In Texasss, you can shoot a car prowler. In florida, you gotta be skeered of the black, I mean Bad guy. No in fear of your life, just skeered and now want to run away from danger.
Zippie, I mean Zimmie didn't do any of these, he INSTIGATED the contact and ensuing struggle...
uppityperson (75,583 posts)
19. kick to see if this has gotten into archives or will it show on GD forum page
An Al Not-So-Sharpton wannbe attention whore.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023163038
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The defense has gone so overboard they have managed to place doubt in the jurors minds
meanwhile it appears that the prosecution has underwhelmed the jury by proving the trumped up charges against Zimmerman.
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The prosecution has been part of the defense bar in this case.
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"He's going to view every young black male as a potential threat, just as he's been doing for years."
Including the black youths that he and his wife had been counseling and mentoring for years before the shooting?
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just for the record, dorkangel is predicting a guilty verdict:
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 02:28 PM
darkangel218 (5,465 posts)
Zimmy will get locked up for at least 15/25 Maybe more.
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All those who think he will get off with a slap on a wrist, are hugely mistaking. Maybe you say that because you WISH him to get acquitted?
He's a ****ing killer, and he will go to prison. That simple.
don't want to be hugely mistaking ::)
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I honestly wish this kind of stupid was fatal.
:thatsright:
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I honestly wish this kind of stupid was fatal.
:thatsright:
If the DUmbasses take to the streets with the whipped up race rioters, it might just be fatal.
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If the DUmbasses take to the streets with the whipped up race rioters, it might just be fatal.
One can hope. I'll love watching the News at 6. :fuelfire:
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just for the record, dorkangel is predicting a guilty verdict:
darkangel218 (5,465 posts)
Zimmy will get locked up for at least 15/25 Maybe more.
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All those who think he will get off with a slap on a wrist, are hugely mistaking. Maybe you say that because you WISH him to get acquitted?
He's a ****ing killer, and he will go to prison. That simple.
don't want to be hugely mistaking ::)
Apparently she's still so upset over the break-up she's peddling her taco:
Puzzledtraveller (2,601 posts)
13. que?
darkangel218 (5,483 posts)
52. I will send you a free taco tomorrow.
Hang in there. X
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If the DUmbasses take to the streets with the whipped up race rioters, it might just be fatal.
The DUmmie won't take to the street. The male DUmmies may offer themselves as comfort girls to the rioters though.
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I honestly wish this kind of stupid was fatal.
:thatsright:
I cant agree with you more.
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I hope the 2013 version of Reginald Denny is packing a Glock...
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The DUmmie won't take to the street. The male DUmmies may offer themselves as comfort girls to the rioters though.
I don't agree. Oh, not all of the DUmp denizens will, I will agree with you that far. After all, cowardice is a prime, driving impulse for probably 70% of the the most vicious of the keyboard kommandos. But the rest of them are going to have a tough time sitting on their inner core of greed, and I'll bet the farm at least 1 - 2 will be boasting of all the great looting they got in under cover of the chaos, should the rioting become as widespread as the Regime is hoping it will.
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I don't know if I could with good conscience shoot a looter with a firearm, but I would have no compunction about shooting them many times over with a paintball gun.
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I don't know if I could with good conscience shoot a looter with a firearm, but I would have no compunction about shooting them many times over with a paintball gun.
A single looter, no. Until and unless he threatens you, that's not a valid shooting solution. However, the majority of looters roam in packs, and that, my friend, is a clear and present threat to your life and the lives of those around you.
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A single looter, no. Until and unless he threatens you, that's not a valid shooting solution. However, the majority of looters roam in packs, and that, my friend, is a clear and present threat to your life and the lives of those around you.
00 Buck, followed by a slug. Repeat as necessary.
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00 Buck, followed by a slug. Repeat as necessary.
I forgo the 00.
I live so far out in the boonies, if someone is attempting to break in, it has to be intentional, and will be dealt with accordingly.
I don't know if I could with good conscience shoot a looter with a firearm, but I would have no compunction about shooting them many times over with a paintball gun.
Single looter, single warning shot. If that doesn't send a clear signal to the looter, help Darwin eliminate it from the gene pool.
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I don't agree. Oh, not all of the DUmp denizens will, I will agree with you that far. After all, cowardice is a prime, driving impulse for probably 70% of the the most vicious of the keyboard kommandos. But the rest of them are going to have a tough time sitting on their inner core of greed, and I'll bet the farm at least 1 - 2 will be boasting of all the great looting they got in under cover of the chaos, should the rioting become as widespread as the Regime is hoping it will.
Yes, but note the word you used there: "Boasting." While you can bet there will be hundreds of bouncy tales about the DUmmies joining in the rioting, kicking riot police butt, converting right- wingers, and looting all they need, pretty much all of the DUmmies are Internet Tough Guys too gutless to even think of doing anything in public that might get them physically hurt.
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00 Buck, followed by a slug. Repeat as necessary.
I prefer 7.62x39
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I would be more concerned of rioting happening in Miami than in Sanford as Trayvon Martin is from Miami. Also, Miami has a history of riots, including the 1980 riot that killed 18 people. The Blacks have tensions with Cubans and Haitians. Miami also saw riots in 1982, 1984, 1989, and 1995. 1982 Miami Riot involved a Hispanic police officers shooting a Black man.
1980 Miami Riots
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Miami_riots
1982 Miami Riots
http://justicebuilding.blogspot.com/2006/10/1982-case-that-made-miami-burn.html
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What if it turns out nobody gives a crap and life goes on?
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I've seen several posts on the island talking about if he's found not guilty that means the jurors are racists, which makes absolutely no sense. As is typical, primitives can't think.
Listen up, primitives. If a juror is racist, they're going to vote guilty. Why? Because racists who don't like blacks typically don't like Latinos either. That's why they're racist, they only like their own race. There's already one dead black person. Add to that one Latino in prison and you win the daily double.
Did that ever occur to your fragile, egg-shell minds? No, of course not. For a bunch of idiots who claim to know so much you really don't know much at all.
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I've seen several posts on the island talking about if he's found not guilty that means the jurors are racists, which makes absolutely no sense. As is typical, primitives can't think.
Listen up, primitives. If a juror is racist, they're going to vote guilty. Why? Because racists who don't like blacks typically don't like Latinos either. That's why they're racist, they only like their own race. There's already one dead black person. Add to that one Latino in prison and you win the daily double.
Did that ever occur to your fragile, egg-shell minds? No, of course not. For a bunch of idiots who claim to know so much you really don't know much at all.
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There is more logic in that statement than the whole of Skin's Island.
One black kid dead..
One Hispanic in jail.
Win-Win for a racist.
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What if it turns out nobody gives a crap and life goes on?
One can hope for that.
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I prefer 7.62x39
Well, if you're going to be that way about it, . . . I prefer .30 WCF. :tongue:
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Agnosticsherbet (1,363 posts)
If Zimmerman is convicted, will conservative, gun wielding, white people riot?
I've seen the question and concern asked the other way around. So I am wondering, with all the concern that Zimmerman was just standing h is ground, will white people concerned that candy wielding hoodie wearing black kids run rampant in their neighborhood riot to show their anger at the injustice of profiling and killing an unarmed teenager.
Rex (35,676 posts)
2. No, that is some racist trash being thrown around by RWing/Foxnews types.
They WANT there to be violence and more bloodshed.
TRANSLATION: If there is a race riot it's THEIR fault, not the rioters.
Star Member Cooley Hurd (21,538 posts)
3. No, because conservative, gun-wielding white people haven't been enslaved, or lynched...
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...or ****ing profiled and followed and HARASSED while going into a store, repeatedly for 150+ years.
The false-equivalency of race in this country is astounding!
Fat Che's Little Brother (9,054 posts)
7. Some are already discussing it on Facebook.
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NoOneMan (2,123 posts)
9. You can't win them all
White males are the benefactors of this system, who know you can't win them all. Why would they riot? They aren't the oppressed who don't win any
TRANSLATION: if there are riots we have to have sympathy for the rioters
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023236978
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Behold the merciful, sympathetic, tolerant, rational, fact-based Proglodyte nation:
apples and oranges (1,161 posts)
Zimmerman family has a (condescending) message for Trayvon's family and others
"From the onset of this tragic event, our family has been clear to express our trust in the judicial system. A jury of one's peers is the hallmark of our country's judicial system. The American justice system is the finest in the world. George's fate is now in the hands of the jury, who will make their decision based on evidence and the facts of the case. As we await a verdict we will remain hopeful and ask for the public to remain peaceful, no matter the outcome. Though we maintain George committed no crime whatsoever, we acknowledge that the people who called for George's arrest and subsequent trial have now witnessed both events come to pass. We hope now that as Americans we will all respect the rule of law, which begins with respecting the verdict. The judicial system has run its course -- pray for justice, pray for peace, pray for our country."
emphasis added by OP
warrior1 (9,618 posts)
1. Convict this bastard
Rex (35,686 posts)
3. Can anyone in the Zimmerman family tell the truth? Is that impossible?
I've only rarely met such a family of liars.
MjolnirTime (1,621 posts)
8. What a rotten bunch! No wonder they raised a murderer.
Little Star (11,950 posts)
7. Assholes!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023237307
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I forgo the 00.
I live so far out in the boonies, if someone is attempting to break in, it has to be intentional, and will be dealt with accordingly.
Single looter, single warning shot. If that doesn't send a clear signal to the looter, help Darwin eliminate it from the gene pool.
No warning shot for me. In Kansas, using deadly force as a warning will land you in prison.
I may issue a verbal warning, if the circumstances dictate.
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If Zimmerman is acquitted.
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If Zimmerman is acquitted.
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Interesting.
2 riots are in Canada. :lmao:
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Interesting.
2 riots are in Canada. :lmao:
Canadians need free wide screens too.
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Interesting.
2 riots are in Canada. :lmao:
3, actually--look hard at the western part of NYS. The small 'riot' is in Buffalo. The bigger one seems to be in Toronto.
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3, actually--look hard at the western part of NYS. The small 'riot' is in Buffalo. The bigger one seems to be in Toronto.
obamaville has a biggin planed. People might have to settle for 12" TV's.
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Buzzards gotta eat too, you know.
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I don't know if I could with good conscience shoot a looter with a firearm, but I would have no compunction about shooting them many times over with a paintball gun.
If he is looting me the dem is dead shot with whatever is at hand....in GOOD conscience.I forgo the 00.
I live so far out in the boonies, if someone is attempting to break in, it has to be intentional, and will be dealt with accordingly.
Single looter, single warning shot. If that doesn't send a clear signal to the looter, help Darwin eliminate it from the gene pool.
Ammo is to expensive for warning shots, they are foregone...the lock on the door was the warning. Oh and yes send them to Darwin :lmao:
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I don't know if I could with good conscience shoot a looter with a firearm, but I would have no compunction about shooting them many times over with a paintball gun.
BRILLIENT IDEA Zombie.
Day glow orange that is difficult to wash off body or clothing.
Shoot the looters with the paintball guns, to mark them as looters. The mark of shame and that goes for any race that is a criminal of any sex or age.
Out come is anyone breaking into ones home with the orange on body or clothing can be shot with no problem. All the people with dread locks will with the paint in their hair now have to shave their heads
or get questioned by the cops when the riot stops. Even the skin heads will have an orange head.
Call in the National Guard with instructions to pick up anyone with orange paint on them. The fact that the paint will splash on any item being stolen will identify the item as stolen.
Shoot them all, let the police sort them out.
So brilliant a move, Zombie------You impress me.
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Ammo is to expensive for warning shots, they are foregone...the lock on the door was the warning. Oh and yes send them to Darwin :lmao:
A warning shot will get you thrown in jail.
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A warning shot will get you thrown in jail.
Yes sir discharging a weapon in city limits....but the castle law here allows the removal of a body bag without the hassles of the discharge offence.
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I don't know if I could with good conscience shoot a looter with a firearm, but I would have no compunction about shooting them many times over with a paintball gun.
I would shoot a looter simply because I don't know what else they could be planning. I've said it before and I'll say it again, you don't want to get shot, don't come prowling around my house. Sounds like a fair deal to me and in Texas I have a lot of rights especially after the sun sets.
KC
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vesta thinks I'm brilliant ! Yay !
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vesta thinks I'm brilliant ! Yay !
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Heh.
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Rex (35,676 posts)
2. No, that is some racist trash being thrown around by RWing/Foxnews types.
They WANT there to be violence and more bloodshed.
Yeah the right wing used a dirty trick on this, we took things that people actually said and talk about it. It's the oldest trick in the book when someone says something you use their words to form an opinion.
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Yeah the right wing used a dirty trick on this, we took things that people actually said and talk about it. It's the oldest trick in the book when someone says something you use their words to form an opinion.
Using the truth is the dirtiest of tricks to a lib.
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vesta thinks I'm brilliant ! Yay !
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And Janet Napolitano has turned in her badge too.
Think this wlll be Obama's chance to try out marshall law?