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Offline jinxmchue

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Re: Army Doc Demands Obama Prove Eligibility to Command
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2010, 11:28:56 PM »
And does ANYONE here think that if Hillary didn't have some serious dirt on him, she wouldn't have pulled that shit right out and beat him down with it over two YEARS ago?

"Honor" among thieves?  Hillary has her own dirt to be uncovered.

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Re: Army Doc Demands Obama Prove Eligibility to Command
« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2010, 01:56:56 AM »
Because the powers that be have accepted what "proof" he supplied as adequate to verify his US citizenship.  This whole "birther" crap is nothing more than the right's version of the 2000 "selected not elected" meme.  Whackos exist in all stripes, and whether YOU agree with it or not is irrelevant.  Fact remains, he's still the president, and it's his POLICIES that we should be focusing on.  His eligibility is a settled issue.  Birthers are little more than the latest conspiracy theorists, about about as ****ed-up goofy as the rest of them.

Until Gen Casey and SMA Preston start refusing to take orders from Obama...or one of the on the ground Combatant Command 4 Stars says pound sand...refusing orders from the Pres is nothing but a career ender for people like this doc or anyone who follows in his footsteps.
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Re: Army Doc Demands Obama Prove Eligibility to Command
« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2010, 06:36:39 AM »
C'mon, people--I'm hearing some serious Kool-Aid being chugged in here.

DNC vetted?  The background for POTUS is similar to an application for ANY federal job.

And does ANYONE here think that if Hillary didn't have some serious dirt on him, she wouldn't have pulled that shit right out and beat him down with it over two YEARS ago?

Sparky that is how a candidate is deemed qualified -- their party vets them.   Ask any state's Secretary of State -- they sure as hell don't do it.  I would imagine asking them to complete an application, or providing a BC is not any part of what the DNC does.

I am not saying he wasn't born here.  I would like to see the matter put to bed though.   This may be the avenue for it, it may not be.   The last officer who tried this got his orders rescinded.  We'll see if that plays out the same way again.   


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Re: Army Doc Demands Obama Prove Eligibility to Command
« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2010, 07:33:28 AM »
Sparky that is how a candidate is deemed qualified -- their party vets them.   Ask any state's Secretary of State -- they sure as hell don't do it.  I would imagine asking them to complete an application, or providing a BC is not any part of what the DNC does.

I am not saying he wasn't born here.  I would like to see the matter put to bed though.   This may be the avenue for it, it may not be.   The last officer who tried this got his orders rescinded.  We'll see if that plays out the same way again.   



Obama cannot controll where he was born nor could he controll who his parents were.  Like all people as a kid he had to believe what his family told him about his blood line and ancestors.

It may have been his family that played around with his identity to get him scholarships to good schools, perhaps he had 4-5 birth certificates to be used to get grants and or admitted into any number of schools.   

Some say he has any number of #SS numbers, some say he changed his first name, this is the first time in American history that a complete unknown has become President and I can understand the skepticism of his past that even he may not know or was too young to remember.

I cannot get that song out of my head,     " Who are you, toot toot, toot, too,
 We really want to know"

Anyone ever read the Prince and the Pauper, been years for me but I see some similarity's here.


 

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Re: Army Doc Demands Obama Prove Eligibility to Command
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2010, 06:34:48 AM »
Looks like he is going to be Court Martialed.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/04/13/2267021.aspx
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Re: Army Doc Demands Obama Prove Eligibility to Command
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2010, 10:23:38 AM »
Until Gen Casey and SMA Preston start refusing to take orders from Obama...or one of the on the ground Combatant Command 4 Stars says pound sand...refusing orders from the Pres is nothing but a career ender for people like this doc or anyone who follows in his footsteps.
And being the soldiers they are they are not of the mind to stage what is effectively a coup because the US and office of CinC will far endure beyond this pretender pinhead currently occupying the office.
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Re: Army Doc Demands Obama Prove Eligibility to Command
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2010, 10:39:16 AM »
I agree. Whether you believe the whole birth certificate thing or not...it's not worth your career to get that stupidly vocal about it.

IMHO people still trying to make this a relevant issue are like those on the left still trying to overturn the 2000 election.

I equate the birthers with the 9/11 truthers.  But your comparison is just as apt, TRG.
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Re: Army Doc Demands Obama Prove Eligibility to Command
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2010, 10:55:27 AM »
1) He's a doctor.
2) He's a reservist.
3) He's a retard.
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Re: Army Doc Demands Obama Prove Eligibility to Command
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2010, 11:14:53 AM »
Looks like he is going to be Court Martialed.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/04/13/2267021.aspx

Ok, so the first step of the process is about to play out.   Let's see where this goes now. 

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Re: Army Doc Demands Obama Prove Eligibility to Command
« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2010, 11:17:06 AM »
Ok, so the first step of the process is about to play out.   Let's see where this goes now. 

OTH discharge, loss of benefits/retirement.

Seriously, why do the birthers continue to push this issue?  They sound as nutty as the rest of the conspiracy theorists, so please don't try to sell me on the, "Oh, but we've got a REAL CASE this time!" bullshit.
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Re: Army Doc Demands Obama Prove Eligibility to Command
« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2010, 11:18:01 AM »
I equate the birthers with the 9/11 truthers.  But your comparison is just as apt, TRG.

Honestly -- just give up the damn birth certificate.    The whole thing goes away.

I believe he was born here, it's his activities in college and beyond is what concerns me.  

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Re: Army Doc Demands Obama Prove Eligibility to Command
« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2010, 11:20:05 AM »
Honestly -- just give up the damn birth certificate.    The whole thing goes away.

I believe he was born here, it's his activities in college and beyond is what concerns me.  

Ya ever think that maybe it's WHY he doesn't show it?  Because it's like a shiny little toy to distract just enough people from his friggin agenda of socialism, and then he can get political sympathy from the mushy middle with his, "Look how they're picking on MEEEEE!" diatribe, which the MSM is only too happy to broadcast nightly?
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Re: Army Doc Demands Obama Prove Eligibility to Command
« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2010, 11:21:29 AM »
OTH discharge, loss of benefits/retirement.

Seriously, why do the birthers continue to push this issue?  They sound as nutty as the rest of the conspiracy theorists, so please don't try to sell me on the, "Oh, but we've got a REAL CASE this time!" bullshit.

I think the LtCol is well aware what court martial brings him personally.   I am talking about the chain of actions his questioning the legality of orders brings beyond the court martial.  

I am very interested to see if the federal lower courts accept him as a moving party.   Put the topic of the action aside for a minute and look at the big picture.   If a member of the military cannot question the legality of orders then WTF does that mean going forward?  

I think this is interesting on that matter alone.  

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Re: Army Doc Demands Obama Prove Eligibility to Command
« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2010, 11:25:06 AM »
Ya ever think that maybe it's WHY he doesn't show it?  Because it's like a shiny little toy to distract just enough people from his friggin agenda of socialism, and then he can get political sympathy from the mushy middle with his, "Look how they're picking on MEEEEE!" diatribe, which the MSM is only too happy to broadcast nightly?

He's not that smart. 

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Re: Army Doc Demands Obama Prove Eligibility to Command
« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2010, 11:26:07 AM »
Sorry, but this officer is questioning the legality of ALL the orders he receives, simply because Obozo is C-in-C?

If that's the case, this guy is stupider than I thought.
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Re: Army Doc Demands Obama Prove Eligibility to Command
« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2010, 11:27:42 AM »
He's not that smart. 

Maybe, maybe not.  But the people around him are, and with a sympathetic media carrying his water, it's amazing what one can accomplish.  Remember, Reagan accomplished far more with a hostile Congress and press than Bush did, simply because he (and his advisors) were more adept at handling those people; hence the moniker of the "Great Communicator."
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Re: Army Doc Demands Obama Prove Eligibility to Command
« Reply #41 on: April 14, 2010, 11:37:30 AM »
I think the LtCol is well aware what court martial brings him personally.   I am talking about the chain of actions his questioning the legality of orders brings beyond the court martial.  

I am very interested to see if the federal lower courts accept him as a moving party.   Put the topic of the action aside for a minute and look at the big picture.   If a member of the military cannot question the legality of orders then WTF does that mean going forward?  

I think this is interesting on that matter alone.  

What is going to happen is this:

The doc's lawyers are going to subpoena the birth certificate from Hawaii. Hawaii will send them a certified copy of the one they have already shown. Lawyers are gonna say, "Yeah...but that's not a real one." Doc is gonna get slammed and goes to jail for a short period of time.

All that is going to prove is that this bozo is a ****ing retard.
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