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Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« on: March 28, 2023, 08:07:05 AM »
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Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??

I have a feeling it's HIGHLY INFLAMMATORY and local authorities have been asked to sit on it... at least for now.

I don't know anything, but I would bet she had been radicalized by violent trans ideology that has been circling lately on the interwebs... Sort of like an ISIS terrorist from Detroit 'suddenly' taking up guns and shooting cops...

Of course... the manifesto may shine light on the situation.

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4. The shooter in TN today left a detailed manifesto

along with maps. The police are getting as much info as possible before releasing anything to the public. The shooter planned this very carefully.....

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8. Do they release these things immediately? Did they release Eliot Rodger's screed right away?

People expect immediate gratification for their questions nowadays.

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9. I'm wondering if there was a bullying incident at school or something even worse.

It is a parochial school, after all.

They have to victimize the killer in order to justify the acts taken on their side's behalf...

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Many RW outlets refuse to report the names or manifestos of such shooters because they think it gives them notoriety (which the shooter wants and which might fuel future events).

On its face, this seamed reasonable to me… but many on the right are hypocritically calling for the release of this one. Likely assuming that it will be fuel for their attacks.

I say don’t let them have it.

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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2023, 08:15:51 AM »
Wow! The shooting was something like 24 hours ago and CTists are jumping on the "manifesto" not having been released? :mental: Maybe the police have more important things to do than satisfy CTist-crazies' curiosity.
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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2023, 08:24:38 AM »
Wow! The shooting was something like 24 hours ago and CTists are jumping on the "manifesto" not having been released? :mental: Maybe the police have more important things to do than satisfy CTist-crazies' curiosity.

All they are simply doing is trying to come up with a way to vehemently defend their sacred religion of trans, while blaming white people, religion and guns.

The victims in this case have been forgotten already by the left. Defend the shooter at all costs..
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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2023, 08:54:03 AM »
Hey, DUmmie:

Many mass murderers make their "manifestos" public by posting on the web or sending it to a media outlet. For whatever reason this one didn't.

It's not uncommon for law enforcement to collect as much evidence as possible in order to develop a complete picture of a crime and motivation before releasing evidence and analysis.

If there's any blame for the manifesto not being public then that blame lies with the shooter, not law enforcement.

« Last Edit: March 28, 2023, 08:57:21 AM by DUmpDiver »

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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2023, 09:04:07 AM »
I don't know anything, but I would bet she had been radicalized by violent trans ideology that has been circling lately on the interwebs... Sort of like an ISIS terrorist from Detroit 'suddenly' taking up guns and shooting cops...

Of course... the manifesto may shine light on the situation.

They have to victimize the killer in order to justify the acts taken on their side's behalf...

 :whatever:

I'm of the opinion that if someone is willing to go so far as to murder small children, anything they write down on paper is nothing more than part of a manufactured point, and is highly suspect.  Just look how this freak dressed; a complete attempt at mimicking the left-wing image of a gun owning "MAGA" caricature.
Without knowing anything more at this point, it appears to be a direct attack on Christian ideology at it's roots, with an attempt sprinkled in to try covering various other bases.  I guess it figured it may as well try to get the most out of it's one and only outburst for attention.
But who knows. These types are mentally unstable. I can sit around and guess all day long I recon.  Normal people can't really understand crazy, that's why we are most often left standing here with no solid answers.

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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2023, 09:26:34 AM »
All they are simply doing is trying to come up with a way to vehemently defend their sacred religion of trans, while blaming white people, religion and guns.

The victims in this case have been forgotten already by the left. Defend the shooter at all costs..

Progs cannot admit that Trans-activism has encouraged and tolerated violence. Nor can they admit that psychological problems underlie trans perceptions (i.e. trans is not normal and OK). DU-grade Progs aren't, I think, defending the shooting of three 9YOs and three 60-something, just trying to dissociate the shooter's trans-oriented problems and hatreds from the act of shooting. And, at this point, who knows? Maybe her motives were unrelated to her wanting to identify as male.
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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2023, 10:54:19 AM »
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Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??

I have a feeling it's HIGHLY INFLAMMATORY and local authorities have been asked to sit on it... at least for now.

Yea, too bad the PD did not take Brandon's advice and just shoot the gun out of her hand or shoot at the legs then we could have asked her directly in the interrogation.   :banghead:
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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2023, 10:57:14 AM »
A lot of people on twitter have had it up to here with these violent, insane people.  The LBG want a divorce from the TQ+.  It's a seething, angry mess on that platform today. 

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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2023, 12:53:28 PM »
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Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??

I have a feeling it's HIGHLY INFLAMMATORY and local authorities have been asked to sit on it... at least for now.

My money says WarGamer is right, but probably not in the way he wants to be.  Dollars to doughnuts says the manifesto is full of calls for the gender-confused to rise up and fight the biology-archy, with as much violence and death as possible.  That would be very inflammatory for the left to have to admit that violence knows no gender identity.  It's been hard enough on them to shout down all the collected evidence of antifa's violent plans and actions (many of them are pink and blue haired confused people too). 
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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2023, 01:31:20 PM »
Yea, too bad the PD did not take Brandon's advice and just shoot the gun out of her hand or shoot at the legs then we could have asked her directly in the interrogation.   :banghead:

I got a buffalo nickel that says if by some chance intervention of deity this mutt had survived s/h/its encounter with destiny, some Soros-bought DA in Nashville would have "no-bond released" this speshul widdle snowflake within seconds of the booking report hitting their desk.

This is exactly the kind of activist that the purveyors of the Cloward-Piven strategy want running loose amongst normal people.
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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2023, 02:21:33 PM »
If the manifesto makes the mentally ill trans folks look bad, the DUmmies will simply claim it's not the real manifesto, or it has been altered by some RWNJ.

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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2023, 04:06:00 PM »
This is very simply explained. The manifesto is being withheld for the simple reason that it will reflect badly on donkey-commies and their latest shot at putting more government control on Americans.
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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2023, 04:15:08 PM »
This is very simply explained. The manifesto is being withheld for the simple reason that it will reflect badly on donkey-commies and their latest shot at putting more government control on Americans.

A released photo of the shooters bedroom shows what was expected.
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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2023, 05:06:12 PM »
If there's any blame for the manifesto not being public then that blame lies with the shooter, not law enforcement.
Don't forget, these are the DUmmies we're talking about here.
They, like most nutcase ultra- leftists, NEVER believe in blaming the actual perpetrators of heinous crimes.
They'll blame the victims (Including the children, who I'll imagine the DUmmies will refer to as "Future transphobes" or something like that on the grounds that they attended a Christian school), Christianity as a whole, the cops who stopped the shooter, people who support the 2nd Amendment, and of course Donald Trump himself, but will NEVER blame the shooter.
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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2023, 06:42:03 PM »
Don't forget, these are the DUmmies we're talking about here.
They, like most nutcase ultra- leftists, NEVER believe in blaming the actual perpetrators of heinous crimes.
They'll blame the victims (Including the children, who I'll imagine the DUmmies will refer to as "Future transphobes" or something like that on the grounds that they attended a Christian school), Christianity as a whole, the cops who stopped the shooter, people who support the 2nd Amendment, and of course Donald Trump himself, but will NEVER blame the shooter.

They were indeed blaming the murder victims, and now tonight, the parents (in addition to Republicans and the NRA).
Yesterday one of those cretins posted an OP right after it happened claiming it was likely revenge because the Christian teachers in the school had most likely raped and abused this creep when it went to school there.
The post in question was later taken down.   --->  https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217764344

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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2023, 10:47:39 PM »
This is very simply explained. The manifesto is being withheld for the simple reason that it will reflect badly on donkey-commies and their latest shot at putting more government control on Americans.


And it probably pays homage to that April 1st Day Of Vengeance rally... explaining about 'getting the jump on it' by way of droning self-aggrandizement.

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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2023, 08:38:57 AM »
DU-member WarGamer illustrates why DU-folk "need" to wait for Progs smarter than them to tell them what they think. In the real world, the Alphabet-Soup-Identity community is opposing the release of the manifesto, because they think it will stir up anger against Alphabet-Soup-Identity people. ETA: e.g. this NewSpeak article, https://www.newsweek.com/audrey-hale-manifesto-release-raises-major-concerns-among-lgbtq-groups-1790938 .
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2023, 11:08:19 AM »
DU-member WarGamer illustrates why DU-folk "need" to wait for Progs smarter than them to tell them what they think. In the real world, the Alphabet-Soup-Identity community is opposing the release of the manifesto, because they think it will stir up anger against Alphabet-Soup-Identity people. ETA: e.g. this NewSpeak article, https://www.newsweek.com/audrey-hale-manifesto-release-raises-major-concerns-among-lgbtq-groups-1790938 .

Proggies are getting bolder and bolder about their desires.  From the Newspeak article.

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"It should not be published," Jordan Budd, the executive director of Children of Lesbians and Gays Everywhere (COLAGE), told Newsweek. "The focus should be on how this was able to happen in the first place. There should not be such easy access to deadly weaponry."

"Regardless of the shooter's intentions, the real issue here is the ease of access to deadly weapons in Tennessee and elsewhere," Budd said, adding, "All children, no matter who their parents are or how they identify, should feel safe and supported at school. That includes a world free from gun violence."

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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2023, 12:28:21 PM »
A released photo of the shooters bedroom shows what was expected.
Typical LGBT flags
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Anime Posters
Democrat Socialists of America flag
NATO flag (strange)
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I think the photos were taken after the police did a "rip and tear" on the house she lived in looking for evidence/weapons.
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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2023, 04:45:29 AM »
UPDATE!
The manifesto has been published, and it reads like something you'd expect to hear spewed by an ultra- woke college professor while indoctrinating students.
The subhuman animal who committed the massacre rants in the manifesto about the evils of white people and "White privilege," expresses a hope to get as high a body count as possible, and spews all sorts of truly evil things about the children that are the intended targets of the shooting.
For instance, part of it reads "Kill those kids!!! Those crackers going to those private fancy schools with those fancy khakis + sports backpacks w/ their daddies mustangs + convertibles. F*ck you little sh*ts. I wish to shoot you weak@$$ dicks w/ your mop yellow hair. Wanna kill all you little crackers!!! Bunch of little f*ggots with your white privileges. F*ck you f*ggots." (Note: Censorship of expletives done by me)

This is the person that the DUmmies and MANY other leftists were weeping over and portraying as a sad, heroic martyr.
I have no doubt that subhuman monster is currently being mauled by hellhounds for all eternity.

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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2023, 01:57:22 PM »
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Sorry, It wasn’t a right wing screed or anything to do with Q  :loser: :loser: :loser:
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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2023, 03:38:21 PM »
UPDATE!
The manifesto has been published, and it reads like something you'd expect to hear spewed by an ultra- woke college professor while indoctrinating students.
The subhuman animal who committed the massacre rants in the manifesto about the evils of white people and "White privilege," expresses a hope to get as high a body count as possible, and spews all sorts of truly evil things about the children that are the intended targets of the shooting.
For instance, part of it reads "Kill those kids!!! Those crackers going to those private fancy schools with those fancy khakis + sports backpacks w/ their daddies mustangs + convertibles. F*ck you little sh*ts. I wish to shoot you weak@$$ dicks w/ your mop yellow hair. Wanna kill all you little crackers!!! Bunch of little f*ggots with your white privileges. F*ck you f*ggots." (Note: Censorship of expletives done by me)

This is the person that the DUmmies and MANY other leftists were weeping over and portraying as a sad, heroic martyr.
I have no doubt that subhuman monster is currently being mauled by hellhounds for all eternity.

You got a link? I’d like to read it.

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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2023, 03:57:15 PM »
Sorry, It wasn’t a right wing screed or anything to do with Q  :loser: :loser: :loser:

If a baseball player had a batting average as bad as DU's predictions, he'd have been waived by 3 or 4 teams already.

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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2023, 04:58:55 PM »
If a baseball player had a batting average as bad as DU's predictions, he'd have been waived by 3 or 4 teams already.

Or he'd be OUTSIDE the stadium, screaming racism with Colin Limpdick.
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Re: Who is withholding the manifesto, and why??
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2023, 08:01:47 PM »
UPDATE!
The manifesto has been published, and it reads like something you'd expect to hear spewed by an ultra- woke college professor while indoctrinating students.
The subhuman animal who committed the massacre rants in the manifesto about the evils of white people and "White privilege," expresses a hope to get as high a body count as possible, and spews all sorts of truly evil things about the children that are the intended targets of the shooting.
For instance, part of it reads "Kill those kids!!! Those crackers going to those private fancy schools with those fancy khakis + sports backpacks w/ their daddies mustangs + convertibles. F*ck you little sh*ts. I wish to shoot you weak@$$ dicks w/ your mop yellow hair. Wanna kill all you little crackers!!! Bunch of little f*ggots with your white privileges. F*ck you f*ggots." (Note: Censorship of expletives done by me)

This is the person that the DUmmies and MANY other leftists were weeping over and portraying as a sad, heroic martyr.
I have no doubt that subhuman monster is currently being mauled by hellhounds for all eternity.

It wasn't "published" so much as leaked. As in actually leaked, and as of right now 7 policemen have been suspended over this.