If we do not win the Senate we will accomplish very little to nothing.

[dutch508]

theophilus (3,526 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212094521

If we do not win the Senate we will accomplish very little to nothing.

We must consider what must be done to have a landslide win in 2020 that will allow sane policies to overcome recent idiocy.

There is no predicting what will happen between now and then. All that can be said is that it is going to get much worse in many areas. That might actually give us hope for victory.

Republican Rich Folks tend to overreach. That is just part of their greedy natures. There are walls that they will be hitting in the coming months.

Climate change is getting noticed even among Red State voters. Our food supply is going to be impacted and everyone eats. Tornado alley has moved east and millions are in the crosshairs in the deep south and the southeast.

Trade wars are raising prices and the economy is going to slow or take a serious hit. More Red State voters will start to notice failure to make America Great again economically.

A real war, or two, will probably be started. I believe this will be a "bridge too far". If we are put under Martial Law or some such National Emergency type situation we will see push back. Who knows what would happen? Watch out for nukes.

The fact that the Senate will be a hard gain makes the strategy clear: We must appeal to Red State Republican voters.

I know this will be poohpoohed but the situation demands it. To win the Senate and have a future we must, as Democrats, turn Republican voters from darkness to light. It is the only way. I hope that we have some political geniuses working on the problem. If the Rich Party scores the Senate we are doomed to four years of frustration and gridlock. If the Rich Party (and Russia) gets four more years of Trump we are just doomed (condemned to dissolution).

I know that many here, for whatever reasons, do not want to appeal to those who voted for Trump. If that attitude prevails I believe there is not much hope. Events will be on our side. How much will the vast majority take before they come to their senses?

 

NewJeffCT (52,557 posts)

2. agreed

Do Democrats have good alternatives in Colorado to Hickenlooper?

How about in Montana without Bullock?

Does any Democrat in Maine have the name recognition to challenge Susan Collins, who is still somewhat popular there?

Mark Kelly seems to be a good option in Arizona, but I have not heard much since his announcement.

anybody challenging McConnell or Graham is a long-shot, but it must be done.

I know a lot of Republicans are running in solidly red states, but Donny is not a normal candidate and if it looks like he's losing and we get no last minute Comey letter, at least some of his base may stay home making a few of those red state senators vulnerable. (voters who decided in the last week in 2016 broke overwhelmingly to Trump)

 

elocs (20,031 posts)

12. Unless Trump is defeated, kiss it goodbye.

The Supreme Court will be gone for a generation after RGB is replaced because she is not immortal. Another 4 years will give Trump a chance to finish off the nation as we have known it.
It's about turnout, a massive turnout by the Left with no pouting about any pet candidate who didn't get the nomination and a massive turnout will help on all levels.

 

[SVPete]

The children are again imaging how they would play an 8-dimensional chess game.

[fatboy]

I think as of this day, there are 22 known democrats running for president.

 

[Skul]

I think as of this day, there are 22 known democrats running for president.

 

A number sure to incrèase.
 The first few debates ought to bè à hoòt.

[SVPete]

A number sure to incrèase.
 The first few debates ought to bè à hoòt.

I've heard there is some sort of fundraising target a candidate has to meet to be in the Dem debates. Means testing,    .

[FiddyBeowulf]

I think as of this day, there are 22 known democrats running for president.

 

Some of those 22 are not so known.
Miramar Mayor Wayne Messam
Former Maryland Rep. John Delaney

[Wineslob]

Their over confidence knows no bounds.

[Ralph Wiggum]

A number sure to incrèase.
 The first few debates ought to bè à hoòt.

I hope DeBlasio gets in.  He's damn near nuttier than Crazy Uncle Bernie and AoC.  Non crazy people on both sides will see that on public display and reelect President Trump in a landslide.

[YupItsMe]

I think as of this day, there are 22 known democrats running for president.

 

  There'll be more people on stage than in the audience. They should put AOC in the line-up.  not that's she's old enough, but just for the pure entertainment value. 

[Adam Wood]

I hope DeBlasio gets in.  He's damn near nuttier than Crazy Uncle Bernie and AoC.  Non crazy people on both sides will see that on public display and reelect President Trump in a landslide.

Your wish is granted.

Astounding poll I saw somewhere earlier: something like 78% of New Yorkers, cutting across all social, political, geographical, ethnic, and sexual lines think that DeStupidio should not be President.  Of course, they were taking that survey of people coming out of the subway, so it might be skewed by commuters who just had yet another horrid daily experience, so....

[Old n Grumpy]

I saw one of the dimwit dems on Martha's show last night. He is promising $1,000.00 a month for every one from the age of 18 to 62. 
I wonder where he will plant all the $$$ trees, or is he just going to pull it out of his ass.