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Re: Federal Judge Overturns Offshore Drilling Ban
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2010, 10:17:55 PM »
The Sec Of the Interior plans to issue a new order banning offshore drilling, I heard that on the way home from work on Mark Levins show.
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Re: Federal Judge Overturns Offshore Drilling Ban
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2010, 10:18:09 PM »
Awesome!

Wonder if Feds will appeal.

Of course they going to appeal. This could go on for months to even years. Don't know when the oil spill will end though.
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Re: Federal Judge Overturns Offshore Drilling Ban
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2010, 10:19:54 PM »
Interior Secretary Salazar Seeks to Reimpose Drilling Moratorium
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WASHINGTON  -- Interior Secretary Ken Salazar says he will issue a new order imposing a moratorium on deepwater oil drilling after a federal judge struck down the existing one.

Salazar said in a statement Tuesday that the new order will contain additional information making clear why the six-month drilling pause was necessary in the aftermath of the Gulf oil spill. The judge in New Orleans who struck down the moratorium earlier Tuesday complained there was insufficient justification for it.

"We see clear evidence every day, as oil spills from BP's well, of the need for a pause on deepwater drilling," Salazar continued. "That evidence mounts as BP continues to be unable to stop its blowout, notwithstanding the huge efforts and help from the federal scientific team and most major oil companies operating in the Gulf of Mexico."

Salazar pointed to indications of inadequate safety precautions by industry on deepwater wells. "Based on this ever-growing evidence, I will issue a new order in the coming days that eliminates any doubt that a moratorium is needed, appropriate, and within our authorities."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/22/interior-secretary-seeks-renew-drilling-stay/
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Re: Federal Judge Overturns Offshore Drilling Ban
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2010, 11:07:28 PM »
Interior Secretary Salazar Seeks to Reimpose Drilling Moratoriumhttp://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/22/interior-secretary-seeks-renew-drilling-stay/

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Re: Federal Judge Overturns Offshore Drilling Ban
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2010, 11:40:25 PM »
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Re: Federal Judge Overturns Offshore Drilling Ban
« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2010, 06:17:22 AM »
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Re: Federal Judge Overturns Offshore Drilling Ban
« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2010, 07:22:02 AM »
Persistent bastards, ain't they?

It seems kind of childish, from the one article I read... "well, THIS moratorium contains new information." 

I wonder how long we'll see a back-and-forth on this. Shoot it down, create new one, shoot it down, create new one, etc...

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Re: Federal Judge Overturns Offshore Drilling Ban
« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2010, 08:08:53 AM »
It seems kind of childish, from the one article I read... "well, THIS moratorium contains new information." 

I wonder how long we'll see a back-and-forth on this. Shoot it down, create new one, shoot it down, create new one, etc...

Huh, didn't this sort of scenario kinda pop up in another discussion about the ability/legality of shutting down the intertubes?

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Re: Federal Judge Overturns Offshore Drilling Ban
« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2010, 08:19:13 AM »
I wonder how long we'll see a back-and-forth on this. Shoot it down, create new one, shoot it down, create new one, etc...

Let's see....today is June 23, 2010....and we have Obama in office until January 20, 2013.....that 2yrs, 210 days, some odd hours and minutes.....

So, back-and-forth for about 2 yrs, 209 days, some odd hours and minutes....
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Re: Federal Judge Overturns Offshore Drilling Ban
« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2010, 08:33:48 AM »
Let's see....today is June 23, 2010....and we have Obama in office until January 20, 2013.....that 2yrs, 210 days, some odd hours and minutes.....

So, back-and-forth for about 2 yrs, 209 days, some odd hours and minutes....

Yep, the dims hated the drill drill drill mantra and this spill is their excuse to stop it so they'll block it as long as they can, which could be decades depending on who we get blessed with next.

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Re: Federal Judge Overturns Offshore Drilling Ban
« Reply #35 on: June 23, 2010, 08:34:13 AM »
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U.S. District Judge Martin Feldman, who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan and has owned stock in a number of petroleum-related companies, sided with the plaintiffs.

"If some drilling equipment parts are flawed, is it rational to say all are?" he asked. "Are all airplanes a danger because one was? All oil tankers like Exxon Valdez? All trains? All mines? That sort of thinking seems heavy-handed, and rather overbearing."

He also warned that the shutdown would have an "immeasurable effect" on the industry, the local economy and the U.S. energy supply.

Given the judge's comments, I doubt this new attempt to circumvent the system is going to fly either.

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Re: Federal Judge Overturns Offshore Drilling Ban
« Reply #36 on: June 23, 2010, 09:11:27 AM »
It seems kind of childish, from the one article I read... "well, THIS moratorium contains new information." 

I wonder how long we'll see a back-and-forth on this. Shoot it down, create new one, shoot it down, create new one, etc...

I'm not completely aware of the process, but couldn't one of the oil companies or related industries run right to court after this new moratorium is issued and get an injunction on the grounds that the other one was thrown out?
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Re: Federal Judge Overturns Offshore Drilling Ban
« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2010, 10:51:13 AM »
Looks to me, though, that Obama Capone and his gangsters are under siege, or at least having to fight on multiple fronts. There's McCrystal, and however this turns out for the general, this is a lot of no good for Obama. There's Arizona, which the slimes want to sue, but now there's the ruling against the moratorium, so now that's on their plate. They're f'ing up Afghanistan and if McCrystal is forced to resign he can say whatever he pleases, and it's probably going to be that many American soldiers would be alive today if Obama hadn't dithered for months about the troops to give him, and hadn't cut the number by, what, a half? There's Kagan, and a whole lot of shit is turning up about her, and it looks like the Republicans on judiciary may even be growing a spine, and possibly a pair or two, too. There's Kyl and immigrationgate; I missed Kyl on van Susteren last night but I know he stands by his words (and really, who is going to believe Obama at this point in any he said/he said fracas?)

And of course there's the endless spill endlessly spilling oil into the gulf, and Obama looking like an ineffectual fool (which he is, unless he's implementing his hideous ideology). Not that I don't doubt for a second or ever doubted that Obama is allowing the gulf to turn into a bigger disaster than it needs to be deliberately, so as to destroy/nationalize as much of our oil industry as possible; but he has underestimated and not correctly predicted the effect his deliberate negligence is having on his presidency.

I love seeing them tied down this way. It's the best hope we have of Obama and his toads being incapable of doing no more harm until November.

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Re: Federal Judge Overturns Offshore Drilling Ban
« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2010, 10:54:48 AM »
Given the judge's comments, I doubt this new attempt to circumvent the system is going to fly either.

More than that, he'd be justified in issuing a contempt citation to Salazar, at the least.

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Re: Federal Judge Overturns Offshore Drilling Ban
« Reply #39 on: June 23, 2010, 12:11:15 PM »
More than that, he'd be justified in issuing a contempt citation to Salazar, at the least.

That's what I thought. What would stop him. Of course, I don't know beans about the law but that would serve this Administration right if a citation was issued. 

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Re: Federal Judge Overturns Offshore Drilling Ban
« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2010, 10:06:57 PM »
Suck it.  Suck it long, and suck it hard. :evillaugh:
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Government loses bid to keep oil drilling ban

(Reuters) – The Obama administration lost a legal skirmish on Thursday when a judge refused to put on hold his decision lifting a ban on deepwater oil drilling imposed after the worst spill in U.S. history.

After striking down the moratorium on Tuesday, a federal judge in New Orleans rejected a request to allow the six-month ban to stand while the government appeals his decision.

Judge Martin Feldman issued a brief order denying the stay request, pointing to his previous ruling that criticized the ban as arbitrary, far-reaching and unjustified given the impact on thousands of oil industry workers and communities.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100624/us_nm/us_oil_spill
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Re: Federal Judge Overturns Offshore Drilling Ban
« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2010, 07:31:36 AM »
Let's see....today is June 23, 2010....and we have Obama in office until January 20, 2013.....that 2yrs, 210 days, some odd hours and minutes.....

So, back-and-forth for about 2 yrs, 209 days, some odd hours and minutes....


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Re: Federal Judge Overturns Offshore Drilling Ban
« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2010, 10:26:58 AM »
Suck it.  Suck it long, and suck it hard. :evillaugh:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100624/us_nm/us_oil_spill

I don't care how liberal the judge the administration picked, even that judge would have to know that if he overturned the previous judge's ruling without any sort of consideration of judicial process, he'd be setting a nasty precedent which could undermine the ENTIRE judiciary for virtually any case.

IOW, he wasn't about to roll over and make an entire branch of government the Executive Branch's bitch.
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Re: Federal Judge Overturns Offshore Drilling Ban
« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2010, 02:05:46 PM »
I don't care how liberal the judge the administration picked, even that judge would have to know that if he overturned the previous judge's ruling without any sort of consideration of judicial process, he'd be setting a nasty precedent which could undermine the ENTIRE judiciary for virtually any case.

IOW, he wasn't about to roll over and make an entire branch of government the Executive Branch's bitch.

But that happens often, so the precedent is already set.