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Re: Mar-a-Lago Raided
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2022, 05:54:45 PM »
They've unsealed the warrant, but they have not unsealed the affidavit. I imagine they're redacting some of the affidavit to protect the feebs' identity.

 
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« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2022, 10:06:16 PM »
Just collecting some miscellany ...

 :thatsright: Trump was President. Moving documents from the WH to MaL or creating documents while at MaL is not theft.

 :thatsright: Some documents a President creates are exempt from the records act, e.g. purely private communications, document under attorney-client privilege, etc..

 :thatsright: Trump's college degree is in Business, specializing in property management. Trump would not be getting highly technical documents that would be secret. Permanent installations, e.g. of ICBMs, would have been known to the Russians decades ago. Submarine deployment info would be obsolete within months.

 :thatsright: When Trump was President, he had the authority to declassify anything, meaning that much/all that LIEden's DoJ claims is classified is actually declassified.

 :thatsright: Presidents have the highest possible security clearance when they are in office. That clearance does not end on Inauguration Day unless specifically mandated by the incoming President. IOW, Trump may still have his clearance.

The reason for the :thatsright: emoticons is that these are not obscure facts or sophisticated reasoning. It's just stuff the MSM is avoiding/minimizing, because Orange Man BAD!
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Re: Mar-a-Lago Raided
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2022, 11:15:25 PM »
The White House concocted this on the fly, I bet. 

Raids and rats were the only tools that produced results they could toast cocktail-glasses to.

Except now the result is the re-election of President Trump.

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« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2022, 02:48:32 AM »
Held a TS-SSBI/SCI for years. The ultimate declassifying authority is the CinC. I don't think a Sec'y of State is ever a declassifying authority since she/he is a cabinet member, though I could be wrong. What was Hillary again? I forget.
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Re: Mar-a-Lago Raided
« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2022, 06:12:52 AM »
Held a TS-SSBI/SCI for years. The ultimate declassifying authority is the CinC. I don't think a Sec'y of State is ever a declassifying authority since she/he is a cabinet member, though I could be wrong. What was Hillary again? I forget.

Hillary was then, and is now, a lying scrunt. Beyond that, she was SecState during Benghazi when she said, "At this point, what difference does it make?" referring to the raid on the U.S. diplomatic compound there and the resulting deaths of a U.S. Ambassador and two foreign service officers.

But I digress:

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Presidential Declassification Powers
According to Mike Davis, President of the Article III Project and a former law clerk under Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch, the president of the United States can declassify records by simply leaving the White House with them.

“The President of the United States has both the constitutional (and statutory) power to declassify anything he wants,” Davis wrote on Twitter on Aug. 11. “If President Trump left the White House with classified records, they are declassified by his actions.”

“As discussed, the Office of Former President Trump—like every other former president’s federal office—is equipped and secure enough to handle these declassified records,” Davis added. “This is a routine dispute with bureaucrats at the National Archives whether these are presidential records.”

Davis cited Department of Navy v. Egan (ruling), a 1988 Supreme Court decision that Davis says shows the president possesses the constitutional power to “classify and declassify” records “regardless of any statute passed by Congress.”

“The President, after all, is the ‘Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States,'” The Supreme Court ruled at the time. “His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant.”

“When President Trump had the records sent to Mar-a-Lago, they were declassified,” Davis explained. “Former presidents don’t have this power. But Trump did this as the president.”

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Re: Mar-a-Lago Raided
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2022, 08:14:53 AM »
 :hi5: for an informative post, Eupher!
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Re: Mar-a-Lago Raided
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2022, 12:39:57 PM »
They also took a ton of files that were under attorney-client privilege. This entire thing screams witch hunt and a "find me the man, I'll find you the crime" scenario. My new question is who greenlit it? No, not Garland, he wouldn't have done something like this without a greenlight. This seems like they're trying to cook up disinformation for the remainder of their show trial. It was either Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, Rice, Obama, or a collection of all.
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Re: Mar-a-Lago Raided
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2022, 02:55:20 PM »
They also took a ton of files that were under attorney-client privilege. This entire thing screams witch hunt and a "find me the man, I'll find you the crime" scenario. My new question is who greenlit it? No, not Garland, he wouldn't have done something like this without a greenlight. This seems like they're trying to cook up disinformation for the remainder of their show trial. It was either Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, Rice, Obama, or a collection of all.

FBI seizes privileged Trump records during raid; DOJ opposes request for independent review: sources
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-seizes-privileged-trump-records-during-raid-doj-opposes-request-independent-review-sources

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EXCLUSIVE: The FBI seized boxes containing records covered by attorney-client privilege and potentially executive privilege during its raid of former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home, sources familiar with the investigation told Fox News, adding that the Justice Department opposed Trump lawyers' request for the appointment of an independent, special master to review the records.

Sources familiar with the investigation told Fox News Saturday that the former president’s team was informed that boxes labeled A-14, A-26, A-43, A-13, A-33, and a set of documents—all seen on the final page of the FBI’s property receipt —contained information covered by attorney-client privilege.

The FBI seized classified records from Trump's Palm Beach home during its unprecedented Monday morning raid, including some marked as top secret. But the former president is disputing the classification, saying the records have been declassified.
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Re: Mar-a-Lago Raided
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2022, 03:40:26 PM »
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EXCLUSIVE: The FBI seized boxes containing records covered by attorney-client privilege and potentially executive privilege during its raid of former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home, sources familiar with the investigation told Fox News, adding that the Justice Department opposed Trump lawyers' request for the appointment of an independent, special master to review the records.

These exclusions from the record acts were the core of the negotiations with the National Archive, negotiations the Archive and DOJ proved were bad faith.
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Re: Mar-a-Lago Raided
« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2022, 08:14:06 PM »
:hi5: for an informative post, Eupher!

Make that another :hi5: for Eupher from me as well, Pete!
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« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2022, 08:29:13 PM »
The White House concocted this on the fly, I bet. 

Raids and rats were the only tools that produced results they could toast cocktail-glasses to.

Except now the result is the re-election of President Trump.

"Except now the result is the re-election of President Trump."

From your lips, Drafe to God's ears.  'Cause those evil Dem bastards are going to once again attempt to cheat their asses off. and we know it!!!   :argh:

And yes, this time I did not bother to be polite & use the french word for it!  :-)
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Re: Mar-a-Lago Raided
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2022, 06:47:50 AM »
I wonder when some loon is going to try using the "He doesn't have the right to declassify anything because he's not the legitimate president because he 'stole the election while colluding with Russia and Putin hurr durr derpity derp derp' argument.

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Re: Mar-a-Lago Raided
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2022, 06:56:53 PM »
Norah O’Donnell’s ‘desperate’ Trump passport tweet not up to CBS reporting standards: sources
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CBS Evening News anchor Norah O’Donnell is rankling journalists at CBS News with her tweets about former President Donald Trump’s passports, with some griping that she played it fast and loose according to CBS News’ reporting standards.

O’Donnell tweeted Monday that she had been told by a “DOJ official” that the FBI was “not in possession” of Trump’s three passports, which contradicted the former president’s statement that his travel documents were taken by FBI agents who searched his Florida home last week

But the anchor attributed the information to a single source — a big no-no at CBS News, which has a strict two-source protocol, angry CBS sources told The Post. They added that the tweets also made it sound like O’Donnell was calling a former president a “liar.”

“This is an embarrassment for CBS that the face of the your network can’t even make a second call to a Justice Department rep,” one livid source said. “It’s journalism 101.”

No surprise from the legacy media.
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Re: Mar-a-Lago Raided
« Reply #38 on: August 17, 2022, 05:17:26 AM »
Norah O’Donnell’s ‘desperate’ Trump passport tweet not up to CBS reporting standards: sources
https://nypost.com/2022/08/16/norah-odonnells-passport-tweet-not-up-to-cbs-standards-sources/

No surprise from the legacy media.

The See BS turds are distancing themselves from O'Donnell, but what they fail to realize is, it doesn't matter.  :whatever:

You can't trim a turd and you can't taper a turd. Once a turd, always a turd. And See BS was in that particular sewer a long time ago, even before Walter Cronkite decided to show his socialist bias.
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Re: Mar-a-Lago Raided
« Reply #39 on: August 17, 2022, 05:46:34 AM »
The affidavit written to support the bogus search warrant is still not released. An unnamed judge in Florida (not sure if it's Reinhart, who is a magistrate, not a judge anyway) is holding a hearing to hear arguments.

The usual BS from the government about keeping the affidavit shielded "to protect an ongoing investigation" has been cited.

And Judicial Watch has observed that any effort to redact the affidavit would render it essentially useless.

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Re: Mar-a-Lago Raided
« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2022, 10:07:18 AM »
I wonder when some loon is going to try using the "He doesn't have the right to declassify anything because he's not the legitimate president because he 'stole the election while colluding with Russia and Putin hurr durr derpity derp derp' argument.

They already started that. On top of that is the "espionage" claim. They just CAN'T let go of Russia!, Russia!, Russia!
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« Reply #41 on: August 17, 2022, 07:02:39 PM »
They already started that. On top of that is the "espionage" claim. They just CAN'T let go of Russia!, Russia!, Russia!

:ohmy:

They "can't let go," huh?

Is that not the exact  same as being anal retentive? ...

Especially coming from these  particular you-know-whats!!!     :-)
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Re: Mar-a-Lago Raided
« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2022, 04:26:41 PM »
Raise your hands if you're surprised by this. It's a long read, but it names names of those FBI cretins who are involved in MAL and who were involved in Crossfire Hurricane. If this ain't the smoking gun that nails the FBI to the proverbial wall (at least those named and their sycophants), Congress ain't paying attention.

Oh, who am I kidding? Congress pay attention to violations of the 4th and 14th Amendments? Nah.......they're too busy getting reelected!

But in the meantime, we don't need no stinkin' affidavit. The names contained within, at least some of those cretins, are mentioned here.

FBI Unit Leading Mar-a-Lago Probe Earlier Ran Discredited Trump-Russia Investigation

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The FBI division overseeing the investigation of former President Trump’s handling of classified material at his Mar-a-Lago residence is also a focus of Special Counsel John Durham’s investigation of the bureau’s alleged abuses of power and political bias during its years-long Russiagate probe of Trump.

The FBI’s nine-hour, 30-agent raid of the former president’s Florida estate is part of a counterintelligence case run out of Washington—not Miami, as has been widely reported—according to FBI case documents and sources with knowledge of the matter. The bureau’s counterintelligence division led the 2016–2017 Russia “collusion” investigation of Trump, codenamed “Crossfire Hurricane.”

Although the former head of Crossfire Hurricane, Peter Strzok, was fired after the disclosure of his vitriolic anti-Trump tweets, several members of his team remain working in the counterintelligence unit, the sources say, even though they are under active investigation by both Durham and the bureau’s disciplinary arm, the Office of Professional Responsibility. The FBI declined to respond to questions about any role they may be taking in the Mar-a-Lago case.

In addition, a key member of the Crossfire team—Supervisory Intelligence Analyst Brian Auten—has continued to be involved in politically sensitive investigations, including the ongoing federal probe of potentially incriminating content found on the abandoned laptop of President Biden’s son Hunter Biden, according to recent correspondence between the Senate Judiciary Committee and FBI Director Christopher Wray. FBI whistleblowers have alleged that Auten tried to falsely discredit derogatory evidence against Hunter Biden during the 2020 campaign by labeling it Russian “disinformation,” an assessment that caused investigative activity to cease.

Auten has been allowed to work on sensitive cases even though he has been under internal investigation since 2019, when Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz referred him for disciplinary review for his role in vetting a Hillary Clinton campaign-funded dossier used by the FBI to obtain a series of wiretap warrants to spy on former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page. Horowitz singled out Auten for cutting a number of corners in the verification process and even allowing information he knew to be incorrect slip into warrant affidavits and mislead the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court.

In congressional testimony this month, Wray confirmed that “a number of” former Crossfire Hurricane team members are still employed at the bureau while undergoing disciplinary review. In the meantime, Wray has walled off the former Russiagate investigators only from participating in FISA wiretap applications, according to the sources.

Sen. Chuck Grassley, the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, has asked Wray for copies of recent case files and reports generated by Auten and whether he is included among the team the FBI has assembled to determine which of the seized Trump records fall within the scope of its counterespionage investigation and which fall outside of it.

Some former FBI officials worry that Auten, a top bureau expert on Russia and nuclear warfare, will have a hand in analyzing the boxes of documents agents seized from Trump’s home on Aug. 8 to help determine if any of the alleged Top Secret material he kept there might have been compromised, potentially putting national security at risk.

“It is a disgrace that Auten is still even employed by the bureau,” said 27-year FBI veteran Michael Biasello. “I would substitute other analysts and agents.”

An examination of the bureau agents involved in the Mar-a-Lago raid reveals other connections between them and FBI officials who played key roles in advancing the Russiagate hoax.

Sources told RealClearInvestigations that Jay Bratt, the top counterintelligence official in Justice’s national security division, who happens to be a Democratic National Committee donor, has been coordinating the Mar-a-Lago investigation with Alan Kohler, who heads the FBI’s counterintelligence division.

Kohler replaced Bill Priestap in that post after Priestap stepped down from the bureau amid criticism of his role in the Russiagate probe. Kohler had worked at FBI headquarters under Priestap, specializing in countering Russian intelligence threats.

Before that, he worked in London as the FBI’s liaison with British intelligence and law enforcement. The sources say Kohler was close to Stefan Halper, an academic and longtime FBI contractor whom the bureau ran as an informant in a failed effort to suborn Trump campaign officials. He also worked closely with Stephen Somma, a lead case agent in the Crossfire Hurricane probe whom Horowitz said was “primarily responsible” for some of the worst misconduct in the FISA warrant abuse scandal. Somma is a counterintelligence investigator in the FBI’s New York field office, where he has been reassigned to the China desk.

In 2019, Kohler was promoted to special agent in charge of the counterintelligence division at the FBI’s Washington field Office, where he worked alongside then-assistant agent-in-charge Timothy Thibault, who was reassigned by Wray just days prior to the Mar-a-Lago raid, after whistleblowers raised questions about political bias. They asserted that Thibault, who has taken aim at Trump and Republicans on social media, worked with Auten to falsely discredit evidence of alleged money laundering and other activities against Hunter Biden and prevent agents from investigating them.

The Washington field office’s counterintelligence division is now run by Anthony Riedlinger, who previously worked at FBI headquarters as a section chief under Priestap. Some of the agents involved in the raid on Trump’s home came from that Washington field office, according to the sources and FBI case documents.

Bratt, the top counterintelligence official at Justice, traveled to Mar-a-Lago in early June and personally inspected the storage facility while interacting with both Trump and one of his lawyers. Trump allowed the three FBI agents Bratt brought with him to open boxes in the storage room and look through them. They left with some documents. After leaving, Bratt made a request to Trump’s lawyer for increased security at the facility and asked to see surveillance footage from the security cameras. The lawyer complied with the requests. Months went by before the Justice Department took the politically explosive step of sending FBI agents unannounced to Trump’s home, seizing documents, photos, and other items not just from the storage facility but from multiple rooms on the property, including the former president’s office.

Former assistant FBI director Chris Swecker said the search warrant that agents obtained is quite wide-ranging. He pointed out that it authorized the seizure of any information in any form related to “national defense information,” which he said “does not necessarily include classified material.”

“This is a huge, broad search warrant and a huge, broad investigation leveled against the former president,” Swecker said.

What’s more, he said the physical search of the former president’s residence was far more sweeping than first reported and included unsupervised snooping in several dozen bedrooms, as well as numerous storage rooms and closets, including those of the former first lady. FBI agents took numerous boxes and containers of documents and other material, including several binders of photos and even three passports held by the former president.

Although Attorney General Merrick Garland has said that the DOJ seeks to “narrowly scope any search that is undertaken,” details of the warrant reveal agents had the authority to seize entire boxes of records—including those potentially covered by attorney-client privilege and executive privilege—if just a single document inside the container were marked with a classified marking.

Agents were allowed to also seize any containers or boxes “found together with” ones containing classified papers, according to ATTACHMENT B (“Property to be seized”) of the warrant. In addition, the FBI agents were given the authority to confiscate “any government and/or presidential records created between Jan. 20, 2017, and Jan. 20, 2021,” which covers Trump’s full term in office. That meant they were able to take any item related to the Trump administration.

All told, dozens of boxes and containers were removed from Trump’s residence, very few of which actually contained classified information, the sources said.

According to Federal Election Commission records, Bratt has given exclusively to Democrats, including at least $800 to the Democratic National Committee. The sources said he is close to David Laufman, whom he replaced as the top counterintelligence official at Justice. An Obama donor, Laufman helped oversee the Russiagate probe, as well as the Clinton email case, which also involved classified information.

A Senate investigator told RCI that Laufman was the “mastermind” behind the strategy to dust off and “weaponize” the rarely enforced statutory relic—the Foreign Agents Registration Act—against Trump campaign officials, a novel legal move that the investigator noted is similar to the department’s current attempts to enforce the Presidential Records Act against Trump—which is a civil, not a criminal, statute—by invoking the Espionage Act of 1917.

Laufman signed off on the wiretapping of Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, which the Department of Justice inspector general determined was conducted under false pretenses involving doctored email, suppression of exculpatory evidence, and other malfeasance.

Suddenly resurfacing as a media surrogate for the Justice Department defending the Mar-a-Lago raid, Laufman has been a key source for stories by the Washington Post, CNN, and other outlets.

On CNN, for instance, he claimed the documents seized from Trump’s storage were “particularly stunning and particularly egregious,” and their discovery ”completely validates the government’s investigation” into the former president—though he quickly added, ”Whether this investigation transforms into an outright criminal prosecution remains to be seen.”

Swecker said that there is strong reason to fear that the FBI’s counterintelligence division might politicize this case.

“For sure, the FBI has dug themselves into a huge hole because of how they handled the Clinton (email) case and then Crossfire Hurricane and Hunter Biden,” Swecker said. “Myself and many of my colleagues think they are treading on very thin ice here.”

“Unfortunately,” he added, “you can’t recuse an entire FBI division.”

Patel: ‘It’s Just Insane’

Former federal prosecutor and Trump administration official Kash Patel said the FBI may have a personal interest—and a potential conflict—in seizing the records stored by Trump.

He noted that Trump in October 2020 authorized the declassification of all the investigative records generated from the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane as well as the Clinton email investigation, codenamed “Midyear Exam,” and he said that the FBI may have confiscated some of those records in its raid, ensuring they won’t be made public. In addition, he said, the agency may be digging for other documents to try to justify, retroactively, their questionable, politically-tinged 2016 opening of the Trump-Russia “collusion” case, which came up embarrassingly short on evidence.

“Tragically, the same FBI characters that were involved in Russiagate are the same counterintel guys running this ‘national security investigation’ against Trump,” said Patel, who deposed Crossfire Hurricane team members as a former House Intelligence Committee investigator.

Patel noted that the Horowitz report indicated FBI analyst Auten hid exculpatory information about Trump’s adviser Page from other investigators and the FISA court, which should be more than enough to keep him at arm’s length from other investigations involving Trump.

“And to top it all off, this guy admits [to Horowitz’s investigators] he’s unrepentant about his role in making up the biggest hoax in election history, and Wray still lets him be a supervisor at the FBI,” he said. “It’s just insane.”

The Justice Department’s national security division has ultimate authority over the grand-jury probe of Trump for possible violations of the Espionage Act, including alleged mishandling of classified material—the same statutes invoked in the Clinton email investigation. (In that case, in contrast, the FBI never searched the former secretary of state’s Chappaqua, N.Y., mansion, where she set up an unsecured basement server to send and receive at least 110 classified emails and where she also received government documents by fax.)

Former FBI counterintelligence official and lawyer Mark Wauck said he is troubled by signs that the same cast of characters from the Russiagate scandal appears to be involved in the Mar-a-Lago investigation.

“If these people, who were part of a major hoax that involved criminal activity and displays of bias and seriously flawed judgment, are still involved, then that’s a major scandal,” he said in an interview.

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« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2022, 05:07:39 AM »
There's been lots of speculation about the real reason for the MAL raid -- to keep Trump from running in 2024, the lie that those docs contained "nuclear information," J6 BS, and other things, including this:

Spygate Docs and Trump’s RICO Lawsuit: Exploring the Real Reasons Behind the FBI Raid

This rather lengthy article discusses yet another reason for the MAL raid. One thing I did not know -- Trump had authorized a Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) lawsuit against Hillary, the DNC, Comey, McCabe, Strozk, and Page, among others at the FBI, earlier in 2022. The RICO Act is often used against the Mafia and other organized crime. FBI wanted to seize those documents believed to be in Trump's "personal stash" to keep the information within from being released to the public.

It's worth a few minutes to read this one:

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Following the FBI’s raid of the residence of former President Donald Trump, there’s been much speculation about the Department of Justice’s (DOJ) motivation. Was it done to prevent Trump from running again in 2024, or was the raid related to documents and evidence surrounding the January 6th Commission? While these factors may have had some bearing on the FBI’s raid, some entirely different, and potentially larger, factors may be at play.

It is likely that the FBI’s raid on Trump was driven by intelligence community fears over information that was contained within those documents relating to the RussiaGate hoax.

The DOJ’s coordinated FBI raid of Trump was likely related to the potential unsealing and public presentation of this information—particularly in relation to Trump’s Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) suit against Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and former FBI officials like former Director James Comey, former Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, former agent Peter Strzok, and former FBI lawyer Lisa Page—and his amended RICO suit, which added more defendants.

As new information has come to light, we’ve gained increased confidence and now feel even more strongly regarding this theory. The vast breadth and scope of the search warrant alone have bolstered this theory. But that’s far from being the only reason behind our belief.

An Aug. 17 article from Newsweek included some remarkable statements from two sources within the Intelligence Community.

One of these sources noted that “agents went into Trump’s residence on the pretext that they were seeking all government documents…but the true target was this private stash” of documents amassed by Trump, “which Justice Department officials feared Trump might weaponize.” The second Intelligence Community source claimed that although the FBI supposedly “collected everything that rightfully belonged to the U.S. government,” the true target of the DOJ-led FBI raid was “these documents that Trump had been collecting since early in his administration.”

Both sources note that the “sought-after documents deal with a variety of intelligence matters of interest” to Trump—“including material that Trump apparently thought would exonerate him of any claims of Russian collusion in 2016 or any other election-related charges.” In other words, documents that Trump had collected and held within his possession that proved the RussiaGate hoax was exactly that—a hoax. One that was led by officials from within our nation’s highest institutions—including, but not limited to, the FBI and the DOJ.

Although we’re generally not in the habit of giving much, if any, heed to sources within the Intelligence Community, these particular revelations overlay with our own theory and the information we’ve come across. As we shall see from events in the timeline, Trump’s actions, and the documents he amassed over time, appear to have presented a very direct threat to the agencies that lie behind our government, prompting an institutional response that manifested itself in the FBI’s Aug. 8 raid of Mar-a-Lago. In particular, the RICO suit brought by Trump in 2022 presented a potential vehicle for these documents to make their way into the public realm.

On Jan. 19, 2021, then-President Trump declassified “a binder of materials related to the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Crossfire Hurricane investigation” although he also accepted some “redactions proposed for continued classification by the FBI.”

Importantly, Trump also stated that “at my direction, the Attorney General has conducted an appropriate review to ensure that materials provided in the binder may be disclosed by the White House in accordance with applicable law.” In other words, the DOJ was aware—and had at some point reviewed—all the documents contained in the binder that Trump declassified. As we know, Attorney General Merrick Garland’s DOJ has “failed to declassify a single page” of those documents.

Fast forward to mid-January of 2022. According to a Feb. 7 statement by the National Archives (NARA), NARA arranged for the transport of 15 boxes that contained presidential records from Mar-a-Lago, “following discussions with President Trump’s representatives in 2021.” Trump stated that the discussions were “collaborative and respectful” and said it was a “great honor” to work with the National Archives.

His representatives also told the agency they would continue to look for more presidential records. Shortly thereafter, on Feb. 14, NARA claimed in a statement that “some of the Trump presidential records received by the National Archives and Records Administration included paper records that had been torn up by former President Trump.”

The very next day, Feb. 15, 2022, Sens. Grassley (R-Iowa) and Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) sent a letter to Garland stating that the DOJ has so far refused to comply with Trump’s declassification order that he issued in January 2021. The letter noted that “the Justice Department has not only failed to declassify a single page, the Department has failed to identify for Congress records that it knows with certainty to be covered by the declassification directive.” Grassley told Garland that the DOJ must “identify the records subject to the declassification order and, second, produce those records to Congress and the American people without improper redactions.

Three days later, in a letter sent by NARA archivist David Ferriero to the politicized House Oversight and Reform Committee, Ferriero stated that “NARA has identified items marked as classified national security information within the boxes.” Bear in mind that as president, Trump held ultimate authority on whether the documents were classified.

Also keep in mind that letter from Grassley just three days earlier, noting that the DOJ had thus far refused to comply with Trump’s declassification order. A week later, the House Oversight Committee demanded that “NARA turn over additional information, including an inventory of the boxes recovered from Mar-a-Lago and information on any classified documents, as well as documents from the Trump Administration related to the former President’s destruction of records.”

As this game was playing out, Trump was in the process of compiling his original RICO suit.

Trump on March 24 formally filed his RICO suit, which stated that “the Defendants maliciously conspired to weave a false narrative” that Trump was “colluding with a hostile foreign sovereignty” namely Russia. Trump’s lawsuit stated that “the actions taken in furtherance of their scheme – falsifying evidence, deceiving law enforcement, and exploiting access to highly-sensitive data sources – are so outrageous, subversive and incendiary that even the events of Watergate pale in comparison.”

For the next two months, things stayed relatively quiet. Then on May 31, Grassley sent the first of four letters to FBI Director Wray and AG Garland.

Grassley leveled a very serious allegation, noting that “while serving in a highly sensitive role that includes threshold decision-making over which Federal public corruption matters are opened for investigation,” the Assistant Special Agent in Charge at the Washington Field Office, Timothy Thibault, violated federal regulations and Department guidelines designed to prevent political bias from infecting FBI matters. Grassley told Wray and Garland that actions by Thibault undermine “both the FBI and DOJ because, at minimum, it creates the perception of unequal application of the law.”

On June 3rd, just three days after Grassley’s letter to Wray, FBI Agents went to Mar-a-Lago and inspected the storage facility and its containment of documents held by Trump. According to reports, Jay Bratt, the top counterintelligence official at the DOJ’s national security division “personally inspected the storage facility while interacting with both Trump and one of his lawyers.” Trump reportedly “allowed the three FBI agents Bratt brought with him to open boxes in the storage room and look through them.”

These FBI agents reportedly left with some of the documents. Bratt also requested “increased security at the facility and asked to see surveillance footage from the security cameras.” A lawyer for Trump complied with these requests.

FBI Director Christopher Wray testifies during a hearing before Senate Judiciary Committee at Hart Senate Office Building on Capitol Hill in Washington on Aug. 4, 2022. (Alex Wong/Getty Images)

This sequence is important as it demonstrates the DOJ and FBI either knew, or had a very good idea of, what they were seizing in their Aug. 8 raid. It also makes some of the leaks made to the media, which claimed that Trump was endangering national security, seem somewhat ridiculous in hindsight.

If the FBI was aware of Trump’s possession of such material, or could accuse him of endangering national security, they would have done so on the spot during the June 3 visit to Mar-a-Lago. At a minimum, the FBI could have responded with a warrant in the days immediately following the visit. Instead, several months went by before the DOJ and FBI elected to raid Mar-a-Lago. As we shall see, there were some significant events that followed the FBI’s June 3 visit.

The first of these events took place on June 21, 2022, when Trump filed an amended RICO suit against Clinton and a large number of other DNC-related individuals who were involved in the RussiaGate hoax.

The new suit, at 193 pages in length, was significantly more robust and detailed than Trump’s original March 24 RICO suit, and included additional defendants. On the very same day, Kash Patel, a former Trump administration official who’s worked diligently to get Trump’s declassified documents released, announced on a podcast that he was officially a representative for Trump at the National Archives. Patel said it was his intention to “identify every single document that they blocked from being declassified.” Patel stated that he “would start putting that information out next week.”

The following day, June 22, Magistrate Bruce Reinhart suddenly recused himself from Trump’s suit against Clinton & Company. Just 44 days later, after his unexpected recusal from Trump’s RICO case against Clinton, Reinhart personally signed the search warrant to raid Mar-a-lago.

On July 14 there was another surprise development in Trump’s RICO case against Clinton and Company. In a motion put forth by Juan Gonzalez, the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, it was requested that “the United States shall be substituted as the party defendant.” In other words, the DOJ wanted to “substitute itself as the defendant for James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, and Kevin Clinesmith.”

The motion claimed that Trump’s RICO claims were “based upon conduct within the scope of these former FBI employees’ employment with the government,” and stated that “the United States is the sole and exclusive defendant for those claims.” The motion also requested that if the substitution was accepted, “the Court should dismiss the United States for lack of subject matter jurisdiction.”

The motion noted that since Trump had not exhausted his administrative remedies, the Court lacked subject matter jurisdiction and should therefore dismiss the case after substituting the United States as the defendant. The DOJ was maneuvering to place itself into Trump’s RICO suit—and then have Trump’s suit dismissed. This tactic was actually successful—at least in part.

On July 22, trial judge Donald Middlebrooks granted the motion to substitute, replacing Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, and Clinesmith with the United States as defendant.

Middlebrooks cited the Westfall Act, which “accords federal employees absolute immunity from common-law tort claims arising out of acts they undertake in the course of their official duties.” Middlebrook deferred ruling on dismissal and noted that Trump was entitled to “litigate the question of whether the employees were acting within the scope of their employment when the challenged conduct occurred.”

The DOJ had successfully inserted itself into Trump’s RICO suit, bringing with it all the legal weight and firepower held by the U.S. government. It’s worth noting that the information previously declassified by Trump is directly relevant to his suit. And the DOJ, which has stalled its release, is now in the official legal position of fighting against its release in court.

Amidst this maneuvering by the DOJ, Grassley sent a second letter to Wray and Garland on July 18. Grassley told both men that allegations by a number of “highly credible whistleblowers” have prompted “fundamental questions about whether the Justice Department and FBI are properly fulfilling their combined law enforcement mission with impartiality and without fraud, abuse and gross mismanagement.”

One week later, on July 25, Grassley issued a press release containing letters to Wray and Garland, stating that information Grassley had received “involves concerns about the FBI’s receipt and use of derogatory information relating to Hunter Biden, and the FBI’s false portrayal of acquired evidence as disinformation,” referring to the son of President Joe Biden. Grassley said that “if these allegations are true and accurate, the Justice Department and FBI are—and have been—institutionally corrupted to their very core.”

Shortly thereafter, on Aug. 4, Trump filed in opposition to Judge Middlebrook’s ruling to substitute the United States—in other words, the DOJ—for Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, and Clinesmith. Trump also filed in opposition to Clinton’s earlier motion to dismiss the entirety of the RICO complaint against her and her fellow defendants, which included the DNC, and familiar names such as lawyers Marc Elias and Michael Sussmann, Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), former journalist Glenn Simpson, former DOJ official Bruce Ohr, and his wife, Nellie Ohr.

The very next day, Aug. 5, Reinhart signed the FBI search warrant for Trump’s Mar-a-Lago property. Garland later stated in his press conference that he “personally approved the decision to seek a search warrant.” Trump’s Mar-a-Lago property was raided three days later, on Aug. 8.

We know the search warrant was not “focused” as Garland had stated. In fact, it was extremely broad and included any presidential records from Trump’s entire term in office.

It’s also worth repeating that the DOJ knew what documents Trump was holding after their June 3 visit. The DOJ also knew everything that lay within the binder that Trump had ordered to be declassified as Trump sent the binder to the DOJ for declassification processing.

If the DOJ had evidence of specific crimes they would not have used such a broad and vague warrant. It was a targeted fishing expedition—designed to capture any and all information relating to the RussiaGate hoax—at the exact time the DOJ is defending their actions taken in the RussiaGate hoax in court against Trump’s RICO case.

On Aug. 17, Grassley sent a fourth letter to FBI Director Wray, stating that “a deeply rooted political infection has spread to investigative activity into former President Trump and Hunter Biden.” To date, the FBI has failed to address the concerns raised by Grassley and has failed to produce his requested records.

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Re: Mar-a-Lago Raided
« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2022, 08:01:16 AM »
Recent poll (per Bongino) says that 44% of Anericans trust the US Government LESS as a result of yhe MAL  raid.  That is a HUGE chunk of people. In mist countries, a 44% distrust rate results in almost immediate massive govt change.

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Re: Mar-a-Lago Raided
« Reply #45 on: August 20, 2022, 09:29:40 AM »
Recent poll (per Bongino) says that 44% of Anericans trust the US Government LESS as a result of yhe MAL  raid.  That is a HUGE chunk of people. In mist countries, a 44% distrust rate results in almost immediate massive govt change.

All the Rs need to run on cleaning up or dismantlinng and replacing the FBI.

The devil's in the details and my broad brush here won't begin to tackle the issue, but this is what I'd do with the FBI:
* Fire the entire 7th floor of the Hoover Building. All of them.
* Fire the Special Agents in Charge associated with Crossfire Hurricane, the MAL raid, anyone and all involved in the lies and deception involving Russiagate, Hillary's private servers, any and all investigations associated with known or suspected mass shooting events, the Olympic doctor scandal, going all the way back to Waco and Ruby Ridge. If any of those are retired, they forfeit their pension ex post facto.
* Scale back support staff, getting rid of redundancies and waste. As part of that, require those who want to retain their positions to justify same, in writing, based on quantifiable and actionable results as to what would happen if their position were eliminated. Assign a suspense date of 30 days to produce their justification.
* Appoint a 3rd party commission of no more than 5 persons knowledgeable about the FBI's history, deeds and misdeeds, to restructure according to the actual threat facing the nation with the operating goal of total reduction in force of 30%.

Fixing the waste and bloat in federal government might as well start with the FBI. Time to drain the damned Swamp and we can start right there.
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Re: Mar-a-Lago Raided
« Reply #46 on: August 20, 2022, 10:11:13 AM »
The devil's in the details and my broad brush here won't begin to tackle the issue, but this is what I'd do with the FBI:
* Fire the entire 7th floor of the Hoover Building. All of them.
* Fire the Special Agents in Charge associated with Crossfire Hurricane, the MAL raid, anyone and all involved in the lies and deception involving Russiagate, Hillary's private servers, any and all investigations associated with known or suspected mass shooting events, the Olympic doctor scandal, going all the way back to Waco and Ruby Ridge. If any of those are retired, they forfeit their pension ex post facto.
* Scale back support staff, getting rid of redundancies and waste. As part of that, require those who want to retain their positions to justify same, in writing, based on quantifiable and actionable results as to what would happen if their position were eliminated. Assign a suspense date of 30 days to produce their justification.
* Appoint a 3rd party commission of no more than 5 persons knowledgeable about the FBI's history, deeds and misdeeds, to restructure according to the actual threat facing the nation with the operating goal of total reduction in force of 30%.

Fixing the waste and bloat in federal government might as well start with the FBI. Time to drain the damned Swamp and we can start right there.

I've got a simpler solution; one suggested by the ruling in the NYSRPA vs. Bruenn decision. Have a Congress-shit ask whoever would care to answer which clause of Art.I, Sect.8 of the Constitution, or alternatively, which founding-era statute provides justifying precedent for the act which authorized the formation of the FBI (the WWI-era Espionage Act and Sabotage Act).

Once the answer is published, dismiss the whole damned agency.
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Re: Mar-a-Lago Raided
« Reply #47 on: August 20, 2022, 10:16:26 AM »
I've got a simpler solution; one suggested by the ruling in the NYSRPA vs. Bruenn decision. Have a Congress-shit ask whoever would care to answer which clause of Art.I, Sect.8 of the Constitution, or alternatively, which founding-era statute provides justifying precedent for the act which authorized the formation of the FBI (the WWI-era Espionage Act and Sabotage Act).

Once the answer is published, dismiss the whole damned agency.

Too much, too fast, IMHO. Since Hoover and his sodomites have been around, the Feebs have done a great job in making themselves invaluable -- to their pet politicians. But even with that, we should take this kind of dismantling in steps.
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Re: Mar-a-Lago Raided
« Reply #48 on: August 21, 2022, 08:11:58 AM »
Since Hoover and his sodomites have been around, the Feebs have done a great job in making themselves invaluable -- to their pet politicians. But even with that, we should take this kind of dismantling in steps.

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Re: Mar-a-Lago Raided
« Reply #49 on: August 21, 2022, 09:58:05 AM »
I remember when Hoover leaked dirt to VP Agnew on TN. Senator William Anderson, so Agnew could leak it to WaPo...  Anderson was vocally defending the Berrigan Brothers while bashing Hoover, so Agnew leaked about a fake plot by a fake group to kidnap Kissinger, linking Anderson.  Then he threw-in a fake link between Anderson and a fake prostitute.

Fun times then, as now.