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Title: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Drafe Hoblin on April 04, 2022, 09:55:16 AM
Is preparing to buy the entire company...

https://www.foxbusiness.com/business-leaders/elon-musk-purchases-stake-in-twitter-after-slamming-its-approach-to-free-speech

" Given that Twitter serves as the de facto public town square, failing to adhere to free speech principles fundamentally undermines democracy. "
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: SVPete on April 04, 2022, 10:16:34 AM
There should be some amusing threads on DU about this. They might even threaten to boycott Tesla ... not that a lot of DU-folk could afford one.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: ADsOutburst on April 04, 2022, 10:49:33 AM
There should be some amusing threads on DU about this. They might even threaten to boycott Tesla ... not that a lot of DU-folk could afford one.

Dems: It's your patriotic duty to drive electric cars.

Musk: *Buys Twitter.*

Dems: Okay, you can walk to work.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: FlaGator on April 04, 2022, 01:11:32 PM
The old Microsoft strategy. If you can't beat them, buy them.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Eupher on April 04, 2022, 03:08:54 PM
I must be missing the boat.

No way in hell would I ever buy a Tesla.

No way in hell would I ever have a Twitter account.

Ergo, I couldn't care less what Musk does with his money.   :coffee:
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: 3rd-try on April 04, 2022, 07:09:46 PM
However Musk's main complaint about Twitter has been a lack of free speech. Twitter has banned accounts over the 2020 election crisis, Hunter's laptop, etc. They have even taken down links to such subjects. I think Musk's input at Twitter can help inform many people who don't actively search out news beyond the MSM. Musk isn't taking sides on free speech. He says he wants to see Twitter practice exactly that. I'm optimistic about anything that threatens the MSM as it is.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Drafe Hoblin on April 04, 2022, 09:46:03 PM
Here come the resignations...

Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: FlaGator on April 05, 2022, 06:24:10 AM
Here come the resignations...

And protests.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: SVPete on April 05, 2022, 08:21:00 AM
Here come the resignations...

One can hope ...
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: ADsOutburst on April 05, 2022, 09:18:49 AM
Musk will join the Twitter board of directors, in exchange for not buying more than 14.9% of the company:

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/05/elon-musk-to-join-twitters-board-of-directors.html
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on April 05, 2022, 09:28:48 AM
And protests.

Liberals Outraged To Learn 10% Of Twitter Now Owned By African-American

SAN FRANCISCO, CA—Liberals at Twitter were outraged this morning upon finding out almost 10% of their company is now owned by an African-American. Several have threatened walk-outs to protest the news.

"Elon's foreigner ways aren't welcome here," said Twitter Programming Director Xerxie Vamoosixx, (xe/xir.) "I watched a TikTok video about a Salon article about a tweet from a journalist that said Elon is 'based,' which is another word for transphobic. I have literally not stopped shaking and throwing up on my desk since I found out."

Several unnamed sources from within the company expressed worry that the African immigrant will influence the company to value freedom of speech—even allowing people to send tweets people like Vamoosixx don't agree with. "Tweets I don't agree with make me feel unsafe which means they're literally violence and I'm gonna burn down this building," xe said.

Vamoosixx plans to stage a protest and demand the foreigner take his foreign ways back to where he came from.

Other Twitter employees expressed excitement over the new ownership—especially for the free White Claws now available in every break room.

The Bee's Obviously Satirical Take (https://babylonbee.com/news/liberals-outraged-to-learn-10-of-twitter-now-owned-by-african-american)
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 05, 2022, 07:40:06 PM
Bezos-owned Washington Post warns Elon Musk's Twitter investment could be 'bad news for free speech'
https://thepostmillennial.com/bezos-owned-washington-post-warns-elon-musks-twitter-investment-could-be-bad-news-for-free-speech

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Elon Musk bought a 9.2-percent stake in Twitter, and the Washington Post essentially freaked out, publishing an article claiming that having the richest man in the world as a partial owner of a social media platform as influential as Twitter could spell trouble for free speech. Musk responded to the preposterous article by saying that the outlet is "always good for a laugh."

Jeff Bezos was the richest man in the world, also a tech billionaire like Musk, when he bought the Washington Post in 2013. When Bezos made the buy, he became sole owner of the legacy news outlet.

The Washington Post was Washington's "leading newspaper," the WaPo reported at the time, "and a powerful force in shaping the nation’s politics and policy."
So it's alright when the richest man in the world buys an entire newspaper outright, but when the richest man in the world buys shares in a social media platform, free speech is endangered. Got it.

The left freaks out over Elon Musk owning Twitter.  :mental:
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Drafe Hoblin on April 05, 2022, 09:02:17 PM
Bezos-owned Washington Post warns Elon Musk's Twitter investment could be 'bad news for free speech'



Doesn't Bezos get tired of reacting like Shemp Howard to everything Musk does and says? 
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: freedumb2003b on April 05, 2022, 09:29:25 PM
Bezos-owned Washington Post warns Elon Musk's Twitter investment could be 'bad news for free speech'
https://thepostmillennial.com/bezos-owned-washington-post-warns-elon-musks-twitter-investment-could-be-bad-news-for-free-speech

The left freaks out over Elon Musk owning Twitter.  :mental:

EVERYONE is waiting for THE EVENT: Predident Trump's triumphant return to twitter. And mine (non de plume of course and I still do know what I posted - the bastards never tell you).
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 14, 2022, 06:23:51 PM
Liberals triggered by Elon Musk's offer to buy Twitter
https://thepostmillennial.com/liberals-triggered-by-elon-musks-offer-to-buy-twitter

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Following an early morning tweet from Elon Musk announcing that he has made $43 billion offer to buy Twitter, linking to the SEC filing, some of the platform's prominent, liberal users launched into meltdown mode.

CUNY professor and author Jeff Jarvis compared the moment in the online town square to the end of Weimar Germany, right before the Nazis secured power and launched the world into war.

Twitter has long been a haven for leftists who have watched gleefully as conservative accounts that run counter to the corporate, liberal narrative have been banned, suppressed, and censored. President Trump was permanently banned from the platform as a sitting president, though shortly before the end of his term in January, 2020.

Recently, Tucker Carlson, The Babylon Bee, Libs of Tik Tok, Jack Posobiec, and Charlie Kirk, among others, have faced suspensions.

The left is really going into meltdown mode with Twitter.  :panic: :mental:
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 22, 2022, 07:40:47 PM
Woke Twitter Elitists Are Too Stupid To Realize Elon Musk Is Saving The Platform
https://alt-market.us/woke-twitter-elitists-are-too-stupid-to-realize-elon-musk-is-saving-the-platform/

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In the past year Big Tech and Big Media are learning a valuable lesson – That “Get Woke, Go Broke” is not just a mantra, it’s a rule. We’ve just seen companies like Netflix take a massive market beating because of their hubris and their presumption that they can simply dictate the path of our culture from on high through leftist propaganda. CNN just shut down their premium “+” service after a single month because no one trusts them enough to pay them pocket change for content. And Disney is about to lose their municipal charter in Florida because they thought they were in charge of the state and its laws, when in fact they are not.

Woke corporations are slowly but surely dying and leftists don’t seem to grasp the situation. They’ll never admit openly that the reason these companies are seeing declines is because of their cult-like political stance that justifies the forced indoctrination of everyone, including children. They’ll say it was covid, they’ll say it was inflation, they’ll say it was bigotry, but in reality it was always them. No one likes them, and people are finally realizing they don’t have to spend money buying products from insane leftists they don’t like.

In this regard Twitter is a bit of an enigma. The social media company has gone from a relatively innocuous space for people to market online businesses and for politicians and celebrities to engage with their followers or detractors, to a vicious battleground overrun with leftist zealots hellbent on using the platform as a weapon to silence dissent and destroy the lives of people that disagree with them. The platform went from average social media outlet to becoming a birthplace for evil behavior. If I was to describe what Twitter really stands for today, I would say it is an attempt to build a global hive mind; a place where everyone is coerced into conformity with establishment ideals through peer pressure and mob aggression.

Twitter is a money pit.

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Why do major globalist institutions have so much interest in Twitter? It’s not because Twitter is a money maker. In 2020 the company suffered a net income loss of over $1.14 billion. In 2021 there was an income loss of $221 million. Twitter still claims it earns a profit, but this is primarily derived from stock buybacks and state and federal government subsidies, meaning, without overnight loans from the Federal Reserve and tax breaks from government Twitter simply would not exist.

Twitter is carrying a debt load of around $6.75 billion in total liabilities according to the Wall Street Journal, which might not seem like much in comparison with many other companies but again, Twitter is not a money maker so any sizeable debt is a problem. They suffered dismal stock performance until the pandemic which led to trillions in stimulus dollars flooding into equities markets. Now that the covid checks have dried up, the company’s stock has spiraled down yet again. The only thing propping it up today is the sudden prospect of an Elon Musk buyout.

Twitter was bleeding users and was dealing with a declining membership base leading up to 2019, when the company decided they would fix the problem by NOT REPORTING traditional user numbers anymore. They shifted to a new metric which they claimed was designed to discount the removal of “spam and bot accounts.” One has to wonder how much of Twitter’s actual user base is made of real people rather than fake accounts? Even with the new metrics, evidence suggests they have continued to lose users and revenues since 2019, largely due to the hostile political witch hunt environment that Twitter has developed in the past few years.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Drafe Hoblin on April 23, 2022, 01:34:05 AM
Musk is set to troll Twitter all weekend.

Twitter seems to think there is such a thing called a 'climate-change denial ad'. 
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Ptarmigan on June 07, 2022, 06:54:29 PM
BREAKING: Elon Musk's lawyers send letter to Twitter threatening to terminate deal over inflated user data
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-elon-musks-lawyers-send-letter-to-twitter-threatening-to-terminate-deal-over-inflated-user-data

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Elon Musk has accused Twitter of "resisting and thwarting" his inquiries about how many fake, or bot accounts are currently on the Twitter platform. Musk has been trying to get this information since his acquisition process for the platform began.

Musk has reportedly called Twitter's unwillingness to provide the information a "clear material breach" to the terms of the agreement that is still under negotiation. As a result, Musk is reserving his right to not complete the transaction.

In the letter to Twitter Chief Legal Officer Vijaya Gadde, Skadden attorney Mike Ringler for Musk said that "Mr. Musk reserves all rights resulting therefrom, including his right not to consummate the transaction and his right to terminate the merger agreement," according to CNBC.

Could Elon Musk let the deal fall through due to too many users?
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Eupher on June 07, 2022, 09:33:11 PM
Lots of conjecture on the interwebs about how this entire Musk/Twitter thing was a stunt to begin with.

Not to suggest it couldn't happen, but since Twitter is giving Musk the runaround, it's rumored he expected that (regarding the fake accounts and bot data) and just wanted to rattle Twitter's cages. Presumably the stockholders would be pissed and wind up firing the asshats that Musk would've fired anyway.

Win, win and he gets to keep his $44 billion.

 :shucks:
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Ptarmigan on August 23, 2022, 06:32:23 PM
Twitter Whistleblower Reveals Company Hid "Extreme, Egregious, Deficiencies"; Musk Subpoenas Dorsey & Ex-Security Chief
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/twitter-shares-drop-after-ex-security-head-reveals-company-hid-extreme-egregious

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Update (0945ET): Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal has sent a message to staff this morning about WaPo's whistleblower story, according to CNN's Donnie O'Sullivan.

Agrawal's message to staff reads:

Team,

There are news reports outlining claims about Twitter's privacy, security, and data protection practices that were made by Mudge Zatko, a former Twitter executive who was terminated in January 2022 for ineffective leadership and poor performance. We are reviewing the redacted claims that have been published, but what we've seen so far is a false narrative that is riddled with inconsistencies and inaccuracies, and presented without important context.

I know this is frustrating and confusing to read, given Mudge was accountable for many aspects of this work that he is now inaccurately portraying more than six months after his termination. But none of this takes away from the important work you have done and continue to do to safeguard the privacy and security of our customers and their data. This year alone, we have meaningfully accelerated our progress through increased focus and incredible leadership from Lea Kissner, Damien Kieran, and Nick Caldwell. This work continues to be an important priority for us, and if you want to read more about our approach, you can find a summary here.

Given the spotlight on Twitter at the moment, we can assume that we will continue to see more headlines in the coming days — this will only make our work harder. I know that all of you take a lot of pride in the work we do together and in the values that guide us. We will pursue all paths to defend our integrity as a company and set the record straight.

See you all at «OneTeam tomorrow,

Parag

This could get interesting.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Ptarmigan on October 06, 2022, 08:42:34 PM
Media worried as Elon Musk nears Twitter deal: ‘Be afraid, be actually afraid’
https://nypost.com/2022/10/05/media-worried-as-elon-musk-nears-twitter-deal/

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Members of the media renewed their anger against billionaire tech mogul Elon Musk on Tuesday after reports showed him closing his deal to officially buy Twitter.

Fox Business reported Twitter intended to close the deal for Musk’s $44 billion acquisition of the social media company at $54.20 per share, the original offer Musk made in April. Shares of Twitter stock quickly soared after the announcement which also received approval from Twitter shareholders.

Reporters and journalists, however, expressed doubts and even fears about Musk’s purchase.

NBC News reporter Ben Collins notably penned a lengthy Twitter thread describing how Musk’s Twitter purchase could affect the 2022 midterm elections.

The left is in panic mode.  :panic: :runaway:
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: SVPete on October 07, 2022, 07:45:18 AM
Roaches fear light.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 10, 2022, 09:03:41 PM
Twitter official behind Hunter Biden laptop censorship leaving company
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/blue-dog-democrats-midterm-elections

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Yoel Roth, the Twitter official who led Twitter's decision to censor the New York Post's stories about Hunter Biden's laptop before the 2020 election, is leaving the company.

Roth, Twitter's head of trust and safety, has left the company as of Thursday, according to Axios. Roth was previously involved in Twitter's decision to censor the Hunter Biden story but was kept on staff by Musk for the first two weeks of his company control. It's unclear why Roth is leaving.

Yoel Roth, who censored Hunter Biden story is leaving Twitter.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 10, 2022, 09:05:08 PM
Musk tells Twitter staff: Bankruptcy isn´t out of the question- Platformer
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-11414463/Musk-tells-Twitter-staff-Bankruptcy-isn-t-question-Platformer.html

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Nov 10 (Reuters) - Twitter owner Elon Musk told employees on Thursday that he is not sure how much run rate the company has and that bankruptcy is not out of the question, the Managing Editor of tech newsletter Platformer tweeted.

Could Twitter go bankrupt?
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: freedumb2003b on November 11, 2022, 06:29:03 AM
Musk tells Twitter staff: Bankruptcy isn´t out of the question- Platformer
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-11414463/Musk-tells-Twitter-staff-Bankruptcy-isn-t-question-Platformer.html

Could Twitter go bankrupt?

Bankruptcy is a financial tool.  If prior management made a lot of bad contract and leverage decisions it can setup restructuring them favorably.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Eupher on November 11, 2022, 06:42:03 AM
Musk also reportedly told employees their butts need to be in the office 40 hours a week -- or GTFO.

No more "working from anywhere".
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 14, 2022, 07:20:25 PM
Twitter Employee Demonstrates the Entitled Mentality of Silicon Valley Before Musk Axes Him
https://redstate.com/brandon_morse/2022/11/14/twitter-employee-demonstrates-the-entitled-mentality-of-silicon-valley-before-musk-axes-him-n658834

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California culture is often referred to as a “bubble.” Listen to some of the coastal elite on the west coast for more than 10 minutes and you’ll begin to see a self-inflicted kind of ignorance where facts and logic take a back seat to emotions and virtue signaling.

But nothing puts into perspective just how bad the bubble is then when it’s popped and reality begins to seep into the carefully constructed belief system the bubble afforded.

Case in point, a Twitter employee found himself fired after he went after Tesla/Twitter CEO Elon Musk.

The entire story began with Musk apologizing for Twitter’s slowness in various countries. Eric Frohnheofer, a then-Twitter employee Quote-tweeted Musk, effectively calling him a liar.

You're fired!
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: SVPete on November 14, 2022, 07:40:52 PM
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California culture is often referred to as a “bubble.”

Oh for Bleep's sake! At the most, being generous, tech in CA is Santa Clara County, small parts of Santa Cruz County, San Mateo County, SF County, small parts of Marin and Contra Costa County, and parts of Alameda, Los Angeles, Orange, and San Diego County County. That's 10 of California's 58 counties. Much of tech culture is bubble-like, but warehouse-broom-painting all Californians that way makes Brandon Morse look dumb and unserious.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: SVPete on November 15, 2022, 11:17:32 AM
Gen-Zpocalypse: Elon Musk Cancels Free Grub at Twitter HQ

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/lincolnbrown/2022/11/15/gen-zpocalypse-elon-musk-cancels-free-grub-at-twitter-hq-n1645851 (https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/lincolnbrown/2022/11/15/gen-zpocalypse-elon-musk-cancels-free-grub-at-twitter-hq-n1645851)

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Every once in a while, I get a prediction right. Such was the case a few weeks ago when I forecasted that the precious angels who work at Twitter would be aghast, agape, and agog when Elon Musk announced the end of at least one amenity, implying that employees might be required to actually work for their paychecks. Prior to the commencement of the Musk Era, Twidiots enjoyed free chow, coffee drinks, foosball, meditation rooms, cornhole, and even red wine on tap. Helluva a way to run a railroad.

But, not only did Musk make a round of layoffs, he demanded a return to the office and axed the free lunches. That last move was in light of the fact that very few people actually came to the office and the company was putting $13 million per year into a figurative InSinkErator®. So free food is now a thing of the past.

The profligate amenities were/are real, and not just at Twitter. Companies like FB, Apple, Goog, Cisco, and EBay have similar freebie-amenities, in varying degrees. Other tech companies in the Bay Area, not so much. But putting it in a California statewide context, in many counties more residents are currently thinking about pheasant and deer season than about free laundry at Goog or reduced free dinner hours at FB's high-end HQ cafeteria.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Eupher on November 15, 2022, 03:50:59 PM
Gen-Zpocalypse: Elon Musk Cancels Free Grub at Twitter HQ

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/lincolnbrown/2022/11/15/gen-zpocalypse-elon-musk-cancels-free-grub-at-twitter-hq-n1645851 (https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/lincolnbrown/2022/11/15/gen-zpocalypse-elon-musk-cancels-free-grub-at-twitter-hq-n1645851)

The profligate amenities were/are real, and not just at Twitter. Companies like FB, Apple, Goog, Cisco, and EBay have similar freebie-amenities, in varying degrees. Other tech companies in the Bay Area, not so much. But putting it in a California statewide context, in many counties more residents are currently thinking about pheasant and deer season than about free laundry at Goog or reduced free dinner hours at FB's high-end HQ cafeteria.

I think the over-arching theme here isn't so much the company -- it's that it's happening AT ALL.

I defy anyone to tell me that this kind of coddling occurs anywhere else but -- sorry to say -- California.

The snowflakes are so used to being spoon-fed they can't even burp themselves. Disgusting.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Dblhaul on November 15, 2022, 08:50:22 PM
There is no such thing as a free lunch. LOL!
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: DefiantSix on November 16, 2022, 11:20:58 AM
...I defy anyone to tell me that this kind of coddling occurs anywhere else but -- sorry to say -- California.

It happens outside of California as well. Microsoft was notorious for it up in Washington state. Granted, this was about the time that Washington was being colonized/invaded with Californians too crazy for California at the time...
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Eupher on November 16, 2022, 11:26:41 AM
It happens outside of California as well. Microsoft was notorious for it up in Washington state. Granted, this was about the time that Washington was being colonized/invaded with Californians too crazy for California at the time...

Well, disease does tend to spread if left unchecked, so I'd posit that Gates and his commie friends extended a warm welcome to their commie cousins from Califor-nye-eh.

Another reason why the entire area is often referred to as the "Left Coast."  :whatever:
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: SVPete on November 16, 2022, 01:05:39 PM
It happens outside of California as well. Microsoft was notorious for it up in Washington state. Granted, this was about the time that Washington was being colonized/invaded with Californians too crazy for California at the time...

I've lived almost my entire life in CA, so I don't have experience working at companies in other states. I could have asked a family member for details about the perquisites afforded employees at their Toronto-based former employer, but didn't see a point in doing so. Offering perks and relatively generous compensation has been how tech companies have attracted scarce talent and curbed impulses to unionize. IOW, it's a tech company thing rather than a California thing (and some tech companies are pretty bare-bones ... my previous employer didn't even have free coffee in break rooms, a perk ( :rimshot: ) common in many business contexts all over the US).
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Eupher on November 17, 2022, 10:20:59 AM
I've lived almost my entire life in CA, so I don't have experience working at companies in other states.

Zackly, Pete. Your opinion is colored by your inexperience. You won't care where and when I've worked and who I've seen in whatever capacity, so I won't go there. But let's just say that I've worked internationally and in not fewer than 8 of the 50 U.S. States -- not that you care.

California is seen in the workplace as the absolute LAST place in which to work, at least within the industry in which I have most experience (besides military music, which is not applicable in this case). Full disclosure -- quality assurance in pharma and medical devices, along with MUCH experience in EHS. You know, the stuff that the commiefornians have the most to say about.   :stoner:

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I could have asked a family member for details about the perquisites afforded employees at their Toronto-based former employer, but didn't see a point in doing so.

Good observation, because Canada ain't the USA. Even when it comes to jumping the rope (an expression) from a foreign-based company to the USA. Just sayin'.  :whistling:

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Offering perks and relatively generous compensation has been how tech companies have attracted scarce talent and curbed impulses to unionize.

Bullshit, Pete. Tech companies have been going gangbusters since Slick Willie's reign of terror in the mid-to-late-90s. The "relatively generous compensation" crap you're talking about is strictly associated with companies who have money to burn and are not hesitant about burning it -- even at the expense of the stockholders, where and when they exist. They spend it on the pussies and Californians who are expectant of handouts like this -- and if they don't get it from their company, they'll get it from the government.

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IOW, it's a tech company thing rather than a California thing (and some tech companies are pretty bare-bones ... my previous employer didn't even have free coffee in break rooms, a perk ( :rimshot: ) common in many business contexts all over the US).

Complete nonsense by a guy who lives in and supports Silicon Valley. Sorry to say, Pete, but your opinion doesn't count for much for me.  :bs:

Take your experience and come work in say, Ohio, or Missouri, or Arkansas, and let's see how far your "experience" goes. My bet is -- not far at all. But you don't know because you've never been there.


Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 21, 2022, 09:28:40 PM
Report: Elon Musk Isn’t Done Slashing Twitter’s Workforce
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2022/11/21/report-elon-musk-isnt-done-slashing-twitters-workforce/

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According to a recent report, Twitter owner Elon Musk is considering laying off even more of Twitter’s workforce, this time focusing on the company’s sales and partnerships division.

Bloomberg reports that employees in the sales and partnership division of Twitter may be terminated as soon as early this week, according to people familiar with the matter.

A number of Twitter employees resigned from the company last week after Musk gave them an ultimatum — work long hours on a “hardcore” version of Twitter or leave with three months of severance pay.

However, according to sources, more employees in technical roles than expected opted to leave, compared to those in sales, partnerships, and similar positions. On Friday, Musk asked leaders in these divisions to agree to fire more employees.

More firings are possible at Twitter.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: SVPete on November 22, 2022, 10:00:32 AM
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Zackly, Pete. Your opinion is colored by your inexperience. You won't care where and when I've worked and who I've seen in whatever capacity, so I won't go there. ...

Wow, so angry.

IRL, my Dad was a farmer, who did the planting, drove the tractors, did the irrigating using siphons (balancing pump capacity with the number of rows and diameter of the siphons), operated the combines, and dried the corn he raised. During irrigation season I helped change the section being irrigated - changing where the sheets were set up and starting scores of siphons. It was not the career I chose, but if you've every noticed the strong respect I express for farming people particularly and rural people generally, that was my parents' and many of my aunts' and uncles' life, and mine before heading off to college. Not that I think you care about realities that contradict your image.

I had jobs in high school and college, like many students in that time. Field worker in summer with a seed company, hoeing weeds and bagging safflower flowers so they would self-pollinate rather than be pollinated by bees (possibly from another safflower variety). Fast-food cook, including filtering and changing the fry oil. Rental center (chairs and plates for banquets, lawn and garden care equipment, etc.), cleaning and gassing equipment, putting party stuff in storage areas, loading up and delivering equipment or party stuff, taking customers' orders, IOW, whatever. Bookstore and tape library, assisting customers, stocking shelves and racks, and making masters and duplicating tapes. I ran sound (basic stuff, not fancy) at gigs for several garage bands (unpaid), including unloading, setting up, tearing down and loading the equipment. Nothing spectacular, but realities not consistent with the image you seem to have of me.

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Bullshit, Pete. Tech companies have been going gangbusters since Slick Willie's reign of terror in the mid-to-late-90s. ...
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Complete nonsense by a guy who lives in and supports Silicon Valley. Sorry to say, Pete, but your opinion doesn't count for much for me.  :bs:

Take your experience and come work in say, Ohio, or Missouri, or Arkansas, and let's see how far your "experience" goes.

If you actually knew something of Silicon Valley, you'd know it's been going strong, with some economics hard times, since at least the 1950s. Heard of Hewlett-Packard? They started in 1939. Heard of Litton Industries? Thomas Litton Sr. started it in 1932, and after acquisitions is a division of L3 Communications. In 2017 it was split between a facility in PA and a facility in SoCal. Heard of Varian Associates? It was founded in 1948. Heard of Eimac, founded in 1934? Litton, Varian, and Eimac sold/sell klystrons and TWTs to the military and radiology companies. Heard of IBM? Hard drives were invented at IBM's San Jose facility. Silicon Valley's roots predate Clinton and also predate the semiconductors industry.

BTW, from W'pedia's article about Eimac:

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A union organizing drive in 1939-40 by the strong Bay area labor movement was fought off by adoption of a strategy of welfare capitalism which included pensions and other generous benefits, profit sharing, and such extras as a medical clinic and a cafeteria. An atmosphere of cooperation and collaboration was established,

"Welfare capitalism" was probably the unions' name for the strategy. Be that as it may or may not, when I came into Silicon Valley in the late 70s, the only employer I knew of that was unionized was Lockheed. I assume the benefits-instead-of-unions strategy was started outside of tech, but has been used by many tech companies in varying degrees, because the costs of the extra compensation are lower than the costs in $$ and productivity of being unionized.

Back to my personal experience you so ignorantly denigrate, my first job in tech was at a start-up in an industrial park near the Scottsdale Airport. I was a junior tech, paid slightly high than minimum wage and the company had a medical and a dental plan. Employee gyms were unheard of at the time, and the company didn't have a cafeteria or coffee machine (a "roach coach" came by at break time ... the nickname was apt).

My next tech job, first job in Silicon Valley, was at Kaiser Electronics, a company founded in the 1960s that made displays for military aircraft. My wage was somewhere between 50% and 100% higher than minimum wage, and the company had a medical and a dental plan. The lunch room - not a cafeteria - had, wowzers!, two microwaves ... for hundreds of employees (lunchtimes were staggered some; the smell of fish sauce was almost overwhelming to me at the time). I think we had a Mr. Coffee in our work area, but I'm not sure if it was provided by the company or by our supervisor.

Moving along, a power supply company founded by an engineer who went from being a consultant specializing in power supplies to being a company that designed and produced power supplies. Bennies were medical, dental, and a lunch room with coffee and a couple of microwaves (for just ~100 people). Very Spartan and warehouse-like in the engineering side of the building.

Next, a computer company founded in 1975 by people who proposed an architecture to HP that HP declined. Usual compensation plus vision and Friday "Beer Busts" in our lunchroom - after hours, variety of common bottled beers, a keg, and peanuts.

Next, a power supply company whose first facility was almost warehouse-like and whose next facility was a little nicer, but not fancy. Wage, medical, dental, vision, and a lunchroom with coffee (in the mid 90s, BTW).

Next, a computer company with the usual bennies plus a subsidized cafeteria that was very decent the one time I used it. I think we had a coffee and microwave area. Next, a power supply company with usual bennies and lunchroom, and a luncheon to celebrate a Taiwanese holiday or two.  Next, a power supply company with "usual" (= not very good) bennies, lunchroom, coffee, and a monthly lunch (employee ordered and picked up, company paid). The facility was warehouse-like, had multiple roof leaks, and, in 2002 used test equipment that was obsolescent in the 1970s.

There are a few luxurious places like Twitter and FB and Google, but those companies are not typical in Silicon Valley, not that I think you care about realities that contradict your image. As for "Tech companies have been going gangbusters since Slick Willie's reign of terror," IRL, tech has gone through economic bad times in the mid 70s, late 80s, early 2000s, and late 2000s. In 2000-2002, layoffs were common, and months of fruitless job searching was normal (my search was 9 months). The latter two economic hard times were nationwide, and Silicon Valley was hit at least as hard as any other region.

As for work ethic, I've spent time at tech facilities in Connecticut, North Carolina, and Taiwan. The only place among those whose work ethic was stronger than what I've lived in Silicon Valley was in Taiwan. But don't let reality - what I've lived for almost 45 years in Silicon Valley - disturb your fantasy image of lazy spoiled brat Silicon Valley people.

Eupher, you are in love with your stereotypes of tech people as much as DUpipo are in love with their stereotypes of conservatives. Unlike them, you should be smarter.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Eupher on November 23, 2022, 04:28:15 PM
Wow, so angry.

You have a habit in being wrong, Pete. Not angry at all -- I just don't put up with bullshit.

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If you actually knew something of Silicon Valley, you'd know it's been going strong, with some economics hard times, since at least the 1950s.
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Agreed. Which explains why and how SV has attracted so many nerds.

More snipping.

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Back to my personal experience you so ignorantly denigrate, my first job in tech was at a start-up in an industrial park near the Scottsdale Airport.

Nobody cares, Pete, least of all me. Everybody has a story -- even you.

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Eupher, you are in love with your stereotypes of tech people as much as DUpipo are in love with their stereotypes of conservatives. Unlike them, you should be smarter.

Wow, that's quite a dissertation. Did you get your PhD from writing that?  :rotf:

What I've become pretty good at is detecting bullshit. And I'm getting a good whiff of it right here on this page -- and it ain't coming from me.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 29, 2022, 09:15:16 PM
Elon Musk's Twitter Is A Monster Of The Left's Own Making
https://quoththeraven.substack.com/p/elon-musks-twitter-is-a-monster-of

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It’s funny to watch the left go up in arms about how Twitter has been “unleashed” by Elon Musk.

Putting aside your thoughts about Musk, of which I have many, it has been amusing to watch a triggered left attempt to cancel and boycott Twitter - from hearing how the platform was going to shut down once layoffs were made, to advertisers dropping off the platform, to “activists” using the platform to freak out about it every day, other “activists” leaving the platform, to companies like CBS stating their intentions to leave the platform, only to come back to it just hours later.

The main gripe? That Elon Musk allowing more people back on the platform, while moderating less speech, is harming free speech. The Guardian called free speech a “dangerous fantasy”, for example.

Twitter is the left's Frankenstein.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Ptarmigan on December 04, 2022, 12:50:44 PM
Nicholas Sandmann asks Musk to release 'hidden' Twitter files on death threats permitted against him
https://www.foxnews.com/us/nicholas-sandmann-asks-musk-release-hidden-twitter-files-death-threats-permitted-against-him

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Former Covington High School student Nicholas Sandmann asked new Twitter owner Elon Musk to release any files related to the platform allowing death threats against him while he was a teenager.

"As I’m watching this all play out, I’m wondering if @elonmusk has any hidden twitter files relating to what went on here," Sandmann said on Twitter Sunday. "Let’s be clear: under the watch of @vijaya they allowed these illegal threats when I was 16 years old."

Sandmann shared screenshots taken of multiple verified Twitter accounts calling on people to burn down Sandmann's high school and throw "MAGA kids" into a wood chipper.

Let's hope Elon Musk reveals about death threats sent to Nicholas Sandmann.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: ADsOutburst on December 04, 2022, 02:34:41 PM
Let's hope Elon Musk reveals about death threats sent to Nicholas Sandmann.

Agreed, both in the interest of justice, and to keep tormenting the leftist tools.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Ptarmigan on December 05, 2022, 08:52:59 PM
Kyle Rittenhouse Wants Elon Musk’s Twitter to Reveal ‘Hidden Censoring’ Against Him
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2022/12/05/kyle-rittenhouse-wants-elon-musks-twitter-to-reveal-hidden-censoring-against-him/

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Kyle Rittenhouse recently questioned the release of Elon Musk’s “Twitter Files,” asking if information about whether or not there was “hidden censoring” regarding his story would be made public through the continuing release of inside information.

Fox News reports that Kyle Rittenhouse said that he hoped that Twitter’s censorship campaign against him may be exposed, days after Twitter owner Elon Musk announced the release of the “Twitter Files” which detailed the company’s censorship efforts to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story.

“Learning about the twitter files and @elonmusk releasing the truth is making me more and more curious to find out if there was hidden censoring regarding my story and case on twitter. I am hoping, one day soon, I will be able to find out and the truth will be shown to all of us,” Rittenhouse wrote.

Learning about the twitter files and @elonmusk releasing the truth is making me more and more curious to find out if there was hidden censoring regarding my story and case on twitter. I am hoping, one day soon, I will be able to find out and the truth will be shown to all of us.

— Kyle Rittenhouse (@ThisIsKyleR) December 5, 2022

Rittenhouse was found not guilty last year on murder charges during protests in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Rittenhouse said that he was attacked and acted in self-defense; he was cleared of wrongdoing in the case.

Let's also hope Elon Musk reveals about death threats sent to Kyle Rittenhouse.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Ptarmigan on December 08, 2022, 08:41:24 PM
Latest ‘Twitter Files’ reveal secret suppression of right-wing commentators
https://nypost.com/2022/12/08/suppression-of-right-wing-users-exposed-in-latest-twitter-files/

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The second installment of Elon Musk’s “Twitter Files” dropped Thursday night and reveals how the social media giant was secretly “blacklisting” conservative tweets and users.

Independent journalist Bari Weiss detailed in a series of posts how Twitter used so-called “shadow banning” to limit the visibility of tweets coming from far-right users.

Conservative talk show host Dan Bongino, Stanford University’s anti-COVID lockdown advocate Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, and right-wing activist Charlie Kirk were among the users targeted for suppression by Twitter, according to Weiss.

The former New York Times and Wall Street Journal writer said that the blacklists were built “in secret” and “without informing users.”

More proof that Twitter was censoring conservatives.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Ptarmigan on December 21, 2022, 06:44:05 PM
CNN’s Jim Acosta says he was locked out of his Twitter account
https://nypost.com/2022/12/20/cnns-jim-acosta-says-he-was-locked-out-of-his-twitter-account/

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CNN anchor Jim Acosta claimed Twitter locked him out of his account for several hours — before Elon Musk’s social media site announced on Sunday that anyone who promoted their accounts on other platforms would be suspended.

Acosta revealed that he was unable to access his Twitter page during an interview on Sunday with Insider reporter Linette Lopez, who was among the journalists suspended last week by Musk.

The CNN host told Lopez that he too ran afoul of Musk’s new rules, though his penalty was imposed hours before they were announced.

“I should note my own account was locked overnight by Twitter,” said Acosta, whose comments were first reported by the news media watchdog site Mediaite.

:sosad:  :yawn:  :mental:
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Eupher on December 21, 2022, 08:57:09 PM
 :lol:  Nobody cares, Jim. Just go home and fuggedaboudit. You don't matter any more -- not that you ever mattered anyway.  :whistling:
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Ptarmigan on December 28, 2022, 06:40:40 PM
The 3 most disturbing revelations in the latest Twitter Files
https://www.based-politics.com/2022/12/27/the-3-most-disturbing-revelations-in-the-latest-twitter-files/

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The mainstream media is largely ignoring the “Twitter Files,” internal documents leaked by CEO Elon Musk that demonstrate a disturbingly cozy relationship between the federal government and Twitter’s previous regime. So, you might have missed the latest batch of leaks, published by journalist David Zweig.

Here are the 3 biggest revelations.

The Biden administration specifically lobbied to have individual accounts banned

Twitter may be a private platform, but the Biden White House was apparently pressuring it to remove specific accounts whose arguments ran against their official narrative.

Zweig reports that the president’s team specifically wanted “anti-vax” commentator Alex Berenson removed from Twitter. They reportedly requested multiple meetings as part of this pressure campaign and were “very angry” with Twitter’s inaction. Berenson was eventually suspended and only reinstated after he sued Twitter.

Disturbing.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: DefiantSix on December 28, 2022, 07:31:55 PM
Good to know that NEITHER "SIDE" of the Uni-Party is particularly enamored with the Constitution's restrictions on their power over us.

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...Even the Trump administration lobbied Twitter to censor

According to Zweig’s latest reporting, even the Trump administration pressured Twitter to tamp down on information and opinions it disliked.


:therock:
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Drafe Hoblin on December 28, 2022, 10:50:07 PM

Disturbing.


-for the shadowy chickenshits running biden. 

I look around and see democrat-rattletraps fading and 'disappearing' one-by-one from the national discourse.

And Musk's mulling of a buyout of Substack is an action that corporate-journalism has no counterstrategy for.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Eupher on December 29, 2022, 05:30:08 AM
Good to know that NEITHER "SIDE" of the Uni-Party is particularly enamored with the Constitution's restrictions on their power over us.

:therock:

I had wondered when this would come to light and it's not at all surprising. To those in power, the only thing that's important is staying in power and that means controlling information. It's been going on, oh, I dunno -- since the invention of Gutenberg's printing press?
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Ptarmigan on January 09, 2023, 06:55:42 PM
From the Twitter Files: Pfizer board member Scott Gottlieb secretly pressed Twitter to hide posts challenging his company's massively profitable Covid jabs
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/from-the-twitter-files-pfizer-board

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On August 27, 2021, Dr. Scott Gottlieb - a Pfizer director with over 550,000 Twitter followers - saw a tweet he didn’t like, a tweet that might hurt sales of Pfizer’s mRNA vaccines.

The tweet explained correctly that natural immunity after Covid infection was superior to vaccine protection. It called on the White House to “follow the science” and exempt people with natural immunity from upcoming vaccine mandates.

It came not from an “anti-vaxxer” like Robert F. Kennedy Jr., but from Dr. Brett Giroir, a physician who had briefly followed Gottlieb as the head of the Food & Drug Administration. Further, the tweet actually encouraged people who did not have natural immunity to “Get vaccinated!”

No matter.

By suggesting some people might not need Covid vaccinations, the tweet could raise questions about the shots. Besides being former FDA commissioner, a CNBC contributor, and a prominent voice on Covid public policy, Gottlieb was a senior board member at Pfizer, which depended on mRNA jabs for almost half its $81 billion in sales in 2021. Pfizer paid Gottlieb $365,000 for his work that year.

Pfizer was involved in Twitter censorship.
Title: Re: Musk Says 'Enough Is Enough'. Buys 9% Of Twitter
Post by: Ptarmigan on January 27, 2023, 08:49:40 PM
BREAKING: Russian bot tracker implicating 644 accounts as disinformation was a 'scam': Twitter Files
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-russian-bot-tracker-implicating-644-accounts-as-disinformation-was-a-scam-twitter-files

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Hamilton 68, which claimed to be "a new tool to track Russian disinformation on Twitter," was nothing more than a scam used to implicate the accounts of regular people who had opinions that the Democrat left and their complicit partners in media didn't like.

In the latest Twitter Files, dropped by Matt Taibbi on Friday, it was revealed that Hamilton 68 was a "scam." "Instead of tracking how “Russia” influenced American attitudes, Hamilton 68 simply collected a handful of mostly real, mostly American accounts, and described their organic conversations as Russian scheming," Taibbi wrote.

Hamilton 68 created a list of 644 Twitter accounts that they claimed could "directly attribute to the Russian, Chinese, or Iranian governments or their various news and information channels." They said they would not provide the list outright because that would give these governments a chance to take the accounts down and create new ones to fill that space.

The bots that tracked Russian disinformation is a scam. The bots are actual people.