Liberal MSM and teachers, where did they come from....

[marv]

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From my own experience, they came from kids who were pushed into college by their parents. "Get a good education, and you'll be successful" they were told.

I started college in 1956. In the dorm were engineering, hard science, biology, law, and other assorted students majoring in difficult disciplines, but they discovered that they just could not master them. Most changed majors to education, journalism, and other soft and easy disciplines to get that valued "Kollege Degree"!

Basically, they tended to be too lazy to apply themselves. Now, we're stuck with them.

[JohnnyReb]

http://weaselzippers.us/2012/09/21/gallup-poll-number-of-americans-who-dont-trust-the-msm-hits-all-time-high-60/

From my own experience, they came from kids who were pushed into college by their parents. "Get a good education, and you'll be successful" they were told.

I started college in 1956. In the dorm were engineering, hard science, biology, law, and other assorted students majoring in difficult disciplines, but they discovered that they just could not master them. Most changed majors to education, journalism, and other soft and easy disciplines to get that valued "Kollege Degree"!

Basically, they tended to be too lazy to apply themselves. Now, we're stuck with them.

In the mid 60's they went downhill from engineering...to business...to education...to WTH, just give me some paper and let me out of here.

[Kyle Ricky]

Now-a-days they major in art history, liberal arts, or basket weaving; and then wonder why they can't find a job when they get out of college.

The three best degrees to major in are Business, Medical, and law. You could add Engineering to the list as a fourth, as that is also a great degree to get. Computer Science could the fifth.

Degrees like Education, basket weaving and liberal arts is a joke. Sure there is a big demand for teachers, but that is for inner cities where none of them want to work. When I first started college my major was English Literature (I wanted to be a writer and a teacher). When I heard where I might end up working, I quickly changed my major first to pre-med and then to Business and never looked back. I switched from Pre-Med to business because I hated biology and chemistry.

[Chris_]

The three best degrees to major in are Business, Medical, and law. You could add Engineering to the list as a fourth, as that is also a great degree to get. Computer Science could the fifth.

I might have to disagree with you, considering the glut of unemployed law school graduates out there right now.

[JohnnyReb]

I might have to disagree with you, considering the glut of unemployed law school graduates out there right now.

Those are the ones that haven't put together enough cash yet for their first TV ad.

[Splashdown]

I'm a conservative high school English teacher. Imagine that! I have a "liberal arts" degree.

I've been teaching for 18 years.

One big difference between me and my left-wing peers is that I spent a few years in the "real world." Sure, I was a newspaper reporter, but I was working every day. Those years in the real world cured me of the academia disease.

If you want to know my opinion, it's that many of those on the left have never had to actually make something. I worked in construction, sandwich shops, Burger King, convenience stores, etc., etc.

I understand that in my current chosen profession, I serve at the pleasure of the parents. It is their hard-earned money that helps sustain me. I never take my job for granted, and I'm not one of those who think that teaching is some sort of ultimate higher calling. My job is to teach my students how to write well, how to interpret what they read, and, perhaps, instill some kind of love of reading. But the first two are the most important.

[J P Sousa]

Now-a-days they major in art history, liberal arts, or basket weaving; and then wonder why they can't find a job when they get out of college.

The three best degrees to major in are Business, Medical, and law. You could add Engineering to the list as a fourth, as that is also a great degree to get. Computer Science could the fifth.

Degrees like Education, basket weaving and liberal arts is a joke. Sure there is a big demand for teachers, but that is for inner cities where none of them want to work. When I first started college my major was English Literature (I wanted to be a writer and a teacher). When I heard where I might end up working, I quickly changed my major first to pre-med and then to Business and never looked back. I switched from Pre-Med to business because I hated biology and chemistry.

That was my B-I-L's major, he never did find a job with that degree. 9/11 changed him from lib to conservative though. 
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[JohnnyReb]

I'm a conservative high school English teacher. Imagine that! I have a "liberal arts" degree.

I've been teaching for 18 years.

One big difference between me and my left-wing peers is that I spent a few years in the "real world." Sure, I was a newspaper reporter, but I was working every day. Those years in the real world cured me of the academia disease.

If you want to know my opinion, it's that many of those on the left have never had to actually make something. I worked in construction, sandwich shops, Burger King, convenience stores, etc., etc.

I understand that in my current chosen profession, I serve at the pleasure of the parents. It is their hard-earned money that helps sustain me. I never take my job for granted, and I'm not one of those who think that teaching is some sort of ultimate higher calling. My job is to teach my students how to write well, how to interpret what they read, and, perhaps, instill some kind of love of reading. But the first two are the most important.

The professor for my first 2 college physics courses was Dr. Shula. He had worked out in the real world for a number of years to make his way through college to a PhD. He was conservative, clean cut and always worn a 3 piece suit. Because of his experiences out in the real world he could describe real world cases where what he was teaching us could be useful. One of the few great professors I knew. I hope there is some way you can incorporate your real world experiences into your teaching at school to make the class more interesting and educational.

My calculus professor for 2 courses was dressed like a long haired hippie, had a mustache that completely covered his mouth and he clopped around in wooden shoes. Dull...dull...dull

[Kyle Ricky]

I'm a conservative high school English teacher. Imagine that! I have a "liberal arts" degree.

I've been teaching for 18 years.

One big difference between me and my left-wing peers is that I spent a few years in the "real world." Sure, I was a newspaper reporter, but I was working every day. Those years in the real world cured me of the academia disease.

If you want to know my opinion, it's that many of those on the left have never had to actually make something. I worked in construction, sandwich shops, Burger King, convenience stores, etc., etc.

I understand that in my current chosen profession, I serve at the pleasure of the parents. It is their hard-earned money that helps sustain me. I never take my job for granted, and I'm not one of those who think that teaching is some sort of ultimate higher calling. My job is to teach my students how to write well, how to interpret what they read, and, perhaps, instill some kind of love of reading. But the first two are the most important.

I am glad to hear that it worked out for you. I wan't going to take a chance of having to teach in inner cities and have to wear a bullet proof vest, or have security because I give a gansta a bad grade. I pray that it keeps working out for you.

That was my B-I-L's major, he never did find a job with that degree. 9/11 changed him from lib to conservative though. 
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I am sure I could have found a teaching job, but, like I already stated, I was not about to teach in the inner city. I'm not so sure about the writing though; although I been slowly writing a book since high school. When I say slowly I mean I haven't done anything with it in number of years. I might try to get back into it here and finish it some day. As for right now though, I am having fun watching how Wall Street goes..

[J P Sousa]

I am glad to hear that it worked out for you. I wan't going to take a chance of having to teach in inner cities and have to wear a bullet proof vest, or have security because I give a gansta a bad grade. I pray that it keeps working out for you.

I am sure I could have found a teaching job, but, like I already stated, I was not about to teach in the inner city. I'm not so sure about the writing though; although I been slowly writing a book since high school. When I say slowly I mean I haven't done anything with it in number of years. I might try to get back into it here and finish it some day. As for right now though, I am having fun watching how Wall Street goes..

Hi5 for writing a book, I always wanted to but do not have the attention span. Good luck.

As for "watching Wall Street", I wish I had spent more time watching it myself BEFORE retiring. 

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[Conservative_Sangfroid]

It coincides with the social stucture attack of the left on society that began with the baby boomers, a little later than '56.

If you look at the history of the baby boomer generation you will see it has been a story of unmitigated self-indulgence and congratulation.

The greatest generation returned quietly from a world at war and spoiled the hell out of their children.  Maybe they are not at fault after having gone thru such great tragedies and witnessing such brutality as was seen around the world.

But every social contsruct that American had believed in until that time has been systematically eradicated and denigrated by the boomers and their self-entitled ilk.

They overtook the colleges first and as a consequence here is an anecdote:

I entered grade school in 1973 and by the third grade we were forced to learn "haikus".  I didn't learn about the "bard" and iambic pentameter until I sought it out in college, and by that time the works of Shakespeare were being questioned by the idea that they were plagirized.

Now, consider this for a moment.  32 years after the Japanese snuck attack us  I was being forced to learn the lame-o haiku.

When I was in the third grade it was acceptable to think that it was a "sneak attack".  By the time I was in high school the "truth" was that the Americans had illlegitimately used nuclear weapons against a "duped" people!

If you look at the consequences to the black family you will see what the American DEMOCRAT'S "great leap forward" has wrought:

In the 60's the majority of black children were raised in a two-parent household.  Nowadays there are several "baby-daddies" and the black family has been devastated AND the liberal left WILL justify this phenomenom by saying "well the legacy of slavery" blah blah blah when the reality is that EVEN with the legacy of slavery the black family was fine less than 100 years after the emanicipation procolomation (which just turned 150 years) and it wasn't until the Party of the KKK and Segregation and Jim Crow Laws and Poll Taxes and Poll Tests got their way and were able to create the welfare plantation thru LBJ's "great society" that blacks were "re-enslaved".

It is amazing to me that Black people don't see this history. 

[Splashdown]

If you'd give power over the schools back to the parents, give parents REAL power to hire and fire teachers, you'd turn the whole educational system right around.

It really wouldn't take much.

[Conservative_Sangfroid]

Have you met some of the parents though?

[Splashdown]

I have!

I could tell you stories!

[JohnnyReb]

In the 60's the majority of black children were raised in a two-parent household.  Nowadays there are several "baby-daddies" and the black family has been devastated AND the liberal left WILL justify this phenomenom by saying "well the legacy of slavery" blah blah blah when the reality is that EVEN with the legacy of slavery the black family was fine less than 100 years after the emanicipation procolomation (which just turned 150 years) and it wasn't until the Party of the KKK and Segregation and Jim Crow Laws and Poll Taxes and Poll Tests got their way and were able to create the welfare plantation thru LBJ's "great society" that blacks were "re-enslaved".

It is amazing to me that Black people don't see this history. 

I read an article several years ago about the census of 1890. The black and white statistics were almost the exact same across the board... marriage rate high, divorce rate low, two parent families 95+%(?), income level close to equal, illegitimate childbirth rates almost nonexistent....liberal compassion has softened the black race to almost oatmeal mush.

You know, one could deduce from that 1890's census compared to todays census, that slavery had been good for the black race. Slavery had instilled in them a desire to achieve, to really be somebody...hint-hint Jesse Jackson, instead of just saying, "I am somebody" they actually earned the title of "I am somebody".

[Conservative_Sangfroid]

Great points.  My comparison was really related to post-slavery (real) to the current slavery to the welfare state though. 

[Wineslob]

I've posted this before, but with a "system" designed to crank out "liberal Arts" majors, we are in for MANY more years of this crap.



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[J P Sousa]

I've posted this before, but with a "system" designed to crank out "liberal Arts" majors, we are in for MANY more years of this crap.



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Communism Isn’t Dead, It’s Just Been Renamed..............political correctness

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[delilahmused]

If you'd give power over the schools back to the parents, give parents REAL power to hire and fire teachers, you'd turn the whole educational system right around.

It really wouldn't take much.

It's the parents who turned it over in the first place. Somewhere along the way, they bought the notion that teachers knew more and this was best left to the schools. If you want a real intellectual discussion of this, read David Horowitz. For a "layman's" explanation read John Taylor Gatto's Dumbing Us Down. He was once NYC teacher of the year before completely turning against public education. It's one of the first things I read when deciding to homeschool. Towards the bottom of this page, he talks about the 7 "lessons" he teaches children.

We got quite a bit of flack from parents and teachers when we pulled our kids out. I volunteered almost all the time...when my kids went to school, I went to school. It's what opened my eyes. The sad thing is, we were the best school district in the state. If all the "good" parents and kids left, what would become of the schools. But I was supposed to sacrifice my children for the collective good? No thanks. Too many parents abrogate their responsibility to the state.

Until that stops, the cycle will continue. It's the first place we learn to leave it to the "experts". I haven't been a part of the homeschooling community for a very long time (I can actually be very militant about it if I don't bite my lip) but for several years I was communications director for a national homeschooling organization. At that time the fastest growing segment of the homeschooling community were inner city families.

We gave up a lot though. I still wouldn't change it. The saddest thing I hear is something like, "Oh, I could never do that, I couldn't stand to be around them that much!" I wanted to spend every second I could with my kids and don't think I'll ever look back and think I wish I would've gotten a job so we could get a bigger house instead of educating our sons with our values.

I do think many parents are starting to see how corrupt public education has become. The generation who are young parents now (my sons' generation) are much more conservative than mine was. It's the only way for them to rebel, they certainly couldn't go any further left! Hopefully it will change with them and history won't repeat itself. There are a lot more options now. Just have to break the backs of the teachers' unions first.

Cindie