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Offline JohnMatrix

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to all truthers who think a jet fuel fire can't melt steel
« on: April 27, 2008, 12:32:33 AM »
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP6MlrfbCvQ[/youtube]

in this video you can clearly see molten metal flowing out of the south tower shortly before its collapse.
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Re: to all truthers who think fire can't melt steel
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2008, 12:34:50 AM »
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_jiCyMkrRM[/youtube]

an even better view here.
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Re: to all truthers who think fire can't melt steel
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2008, 06:11:35 AM »
If fire can't melt steel, how is steel made?
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Re: to all truthers who think fire can't melt steel
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2008, 07:54:18 AM »
Good find for a horrible topic.

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No wonder you don't hang out at Ron Paul forums...you'd never be allowed to survive, posting stuff like this.
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Re: to all truthers who think fire can't melt steel
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2008, 01:43:58 PM »
Steel needs not to melt to cause weakening and collapse. Even if steel bends due to heat, it will weaken and cause complete structural failure.
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Re: to all truthers who think fire can't melt steel
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2008, 05:23:32 PM »
Quote from: Big Don on April 27, 2008, 06:11:35 AM
If fire can't melt steel, how is steel made?

Umm, err, Uh. By really really hot stuff other than fire.
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Re: to all truthers who think fire can't melt steel
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2008, 05:31:42 PM »
Quote from: Uhhuh35 on April 27, 2008, 05:23:32 PM
Quote from: Big Don on April 27, 2008, 06:11:35 AM
If fire can't melt steel, how is steel made?

Umm, err, Uh. By really really hot stuff other than fire.
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Re: to all truthers who think fire can't melt steel
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2008, 01:33:23 AM »
Quote from: Big Don on April 27, 2008, 06:11:35 AM
If fire can't melt steel, how is steel made?

i meant by a jet fuel fire.
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Re: to all truthers who think fire can't melt steel
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2008, 06:24:15 AM »
Quote from: JohnMatrix on April 28, 2008, 01:33:23 AM
Quote from: Big Don on April 27, 2008, 06:11:35 AM
If fire can't melt steel, how is steel made?

i meant by a jet fuel fire.
I don't think he was taking a shot at you but at the troofers. At least that's how I read it at first.
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Re: to all truthers who think a jet fuel fire can't melt steel
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2008, 06:34:25 AM »
It doesn't require actually melting the steel to cause the collapse, all it has to do is start to enter a plastic state around seven or eight hundred degrees below the real melting temp, which a jet fuel fire in high winds would easily reach.
What's flowing out probably isn't steel but melted aluminum, other metals, and glass that all melt below 2000 degrees, or even plastics from office furnishings and equipment. 
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Re: to all truthers who think a jet fuel fire can't melt steel
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2008, 08:47:46 AM »
Even so, above 800F steel loses a great deal of its original tensile strength.  At 1000, it undergoes what is known as allotropic transformation where the lattice structure is literally shifted to a weaker matrix, so even if it cools off, it's weaker if not annealed properly.
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