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dental primitive pulls wrong teeth
« on: August 23, 2009, 09:04:07 PM »
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Hmmm.

The cleaning woman from a dental clinic, or the receptionist from a dental clinic, the PC Intern primitive, who has NOT! donated to Skins's island:

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PCIntern  (1000+ posts)        Sun Aug-23-09 08:57 PM
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Oops...dentist mistakenly extracts 16 teeth!!

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/weird_news/20090821_a...

As a dentist, please let me express my condolences to this lady and this kind of thing is INDEFENSIBLE.

As a matter of course, I ALWAYS ask the patient "what are we taking out here today?" ANY confusion causes me to STOP immediately,and discuss to our MUTUAL SATISFACTION as to what's going to happen

In fact, I generally ask "What are we up to today?" before we start...occasionally, it involves a change of mind or questions about the procedure(s)...all OK in my mind. Anything else constitutes assault and battery upon the person...

Yeah, yeah.

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targetpractice  (1000+ posts)         Sun Aug-23-09 09:03 PM
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1. As a dentist... Do you agree with the $2M awarded by the jury?

Just wondering, since malpractice awards are part of the recent healthcare debate.

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PCIntern  (1000+ posts)        Sun Aug-23-09 09:05 PM
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4. Pretty egregious action by the DMD...

Life-changing in the extreme, especially if the 'accidentally' extracted teeth were reasonable periodontally...

I don't know enough about the case specifically to accurately answer the question, but the award isn't surprising...

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Hassin Bin Sober  (1000+ posts)      Sun Aug-23-09 09:12 PM
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7. I wonder how insured the Dr. is? Would one carry 2 million in coverage?

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PCIntern  (1000+ posts)        Sun Aug-23-09 09:15 PM
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9. it's usually 1000000/3000000 for 1 event/all events but this was a clinic and probably liable as an entity as well...

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elleng  (1000+ posts)        Sun Aug-23-09 09:04 PM
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2. OOps indeeed!

Husband having surgery some years ago, discussed with dentist who was part of the entire complex proceedure. Dentist either misrepresented or something how many would be extracted, so husb ended up with fewer teeth than expected.

Yeah, yeah.

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Selatius (1000+ posts)      Sun Aug-23-09 09:04 PM
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3. Why would a dentist pull perfectly good teeth? Why is the dentist even practicing at all?

Why is Pa Kettle in the White House at all?

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PCIntern  (1000+ posts)        Sun Aug-23-09 09:08 PM
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5. Hoo nose?

Lot of us don't give a shit about the patient...well, maybe not 'a lot', but many...believe me...I can see it happening in certain circumstances.

I wouldn't be so sure that they were in 'perfect' condition, but it doesn't matter, it's a catastrophe of the first order dentally...

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PM Martin  (1000+ posts)       Sun Aug-23-09 09:15 PM
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8. Due to the egregious circumstances not only do I STRONGLY approve of the two million dollar award, I would also like to see the Doctor's license pulled. He should not be in this business if he can make such a gross error.

Disgusting the whole way!

Yeah, like Pa Kettle shouldn't be in the White House at all, given all the gross errors he repeatedly makes, the lies he tells.

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PCIntern  (1000+ posts)        Sun Aug-23-09 09:16 PM
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10. I can almost promise you that the State Board is involved...BUT, that doesn't mean squat in many instances...

Yeah, the state board is in Pennsylvania, and Pennsylvania being one of these blue states run by political corruption, we already know how that's going to go.

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nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)         Sun Aug-23-09 09:17 PM
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11. You know I have to have a procedure done tomorrow

thanks!

Ok it does not involve extraction, rather preventing that... porcelain to prevent food collecting between two teeth.

I always talk to doctor, and I make sure we are in the same page.

Hell, I know I have a harder mouth to anesthetize, denser bone... and my previous dentist took the time to splain that to me. So tomorrow will make sure I discuss all before things start.

I just hate mouth anesthesia. I don;t mind getting stuck anywhere else... but the mouth, I absolutely hate it.

In the socialist paradises of the workers and peasants with free medical care for all, anesthesia's usually not a problem, because there's no anesthesia.

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PCIntern  (1000+ posts)        Sun Aug-23-09 09:18 PM
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12. You'll be fine I'm sure...

good luck...

On edit: I'm off to bed - I arise at 4:30 AM to get an early start....trying to fill/extract the CORRECT teeth!!!

Yeah, yeah.

You know, when I was a little lad, I used to fantasize about being a lot of different things, but being a dentist for some reason was never on the list.

Anybody else here used to fantasize about being a dentist?
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Re: dental primitive pulls wrong teeth
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2009, 09:36:03 PM »
You know, that brings up something interesting the DUmmies haven't discussed. Under the ideal version of
O-care, the O-docs will just be another class of low-salary government workers, lumpenproles no different from the DUmmies.
DUmmies just love bringing better people down to their level. Anyway, with O-docs having no more incentive to
excel than a license plate clerk, you have to believe there will be more errors made than now. After all, medical doctors,
in a system based on freedom and accomplishment, are among the elites of society with tons of incentive to protect that
position.

So now you will have all these $20/hr O-docs clocking in at huge government-run O-clinics, jammed with thousands of the sick
and dying, plus lazy DUmmies, normal people, Mexicans, and anyone else who wants to get a free checkup. If an O-doc cuts off
the wrong appendage, or leaves a socket wrench in your belly, what's the worst that can happen? He loses a run-of-the-mill
job? No lawsuits, no big payday for the DUmmies, no 40% cut for the Silky Pony. The O-doc would have nothing you could sue for
anyway. Not that he'd care.

A basic tenet of the DUmp is that every misfortune should be compensated by suing someone. Next to organized crim...er, I
mean labor, the most important contributors to liberal democrats are the trial lawyers. It seems to me that cherished democrat
system is threatened by O-care. I suppose there could be legislation, after the Kenyan finishes increasing our vacation time, to
allow the good people down at the O-care office to print up more O-bucks to pay off the DUmmies and the trial lawyers.

Anyway, it's an issue the DUmmies haven't discussed, and they should.

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Re: dental primitive pulls wrong teeth
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2009, 10:16:25 PM »
Who knows?  This could be the work of a very clever mole.

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When you are the beneficiary of a policy that steals from someone and gives it to you in return for your vote, it produces a sense of entitlement and dependency.

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Re: dental primitive pulls wrong teeth
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2009, 04:24:29 AM »
Who knows?  This could be the work of a very clever mole.



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Re: dental primitive pulls wrong teeth
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2009, 06:06:56 AM »
You know, that brings up something interesting the DUmmies haven't discussed. Under the ideal version of
O-care, the O-docs will just be another class of low-salary government workers, lumpenproles no different from the DUmmies.
DUmmies just love bringing better people down to their level. Anyway, with O-docs having no more incentive to
excel than a license plate clerk, you have to believe there will be more errors made than now. After all, medical doctors,
in a system based on freedom and accomplishment, are among the elites of society with tons of incentive to protect that
position.

So now you will have all these $20/hr O-docs clocking in at huge government-run O-clinics, jammed with thousands of the sick
and dying, plus lazy DUmmies, normal people, Mexicans, and anyone else who wants to get a free checkup. If an O-doc cuts off
the wrong appendage, or leaves a socket wrench in your belly, what's the worst that can happen? He loses a run-of-the-mill
job? No lawsuits, no big payday for the DUmmies, no 40% cut for the Silky Pony. The O-doc would have nothing you could sue for
anyway.
Not that he'd care.

A basic tenet of the DUmp is that every misfortune should be compensated by suing someone. Next to organized crim...er, I
mean labor, the most important contributors to liberal democrats are the trial lawyers. It seems to me that cherished democrat
system is threatened by O-care. I suppose there could be legislation, after the Kenyan finishes increasing our vacation time, to
allow the good people down at the O-care office to print up more O-bucks to pay off the DUmmies and the trial lawyers.

Anyway, it's an issue the DUmmies haven't discussed, and they should.

Would the Feres Doctrine apply to O-docs like it does to military doctors, i.e. you can't sue the government over the incompetence of it's employees?

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Re: dental primitive pulls wrong teeth
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2009, 06:53:18 AM »
I bet some of those folks in the NHS in England who were pulling their own teeth would have loved this overambitious dentist working in their mouths.  :-)

As an aside, I can see a pretty decent reward in this case. 2 million..meh, a little steep, but this is a 28 year old female--that's pretty young to end up with no top choppers. And the estimates are at about 80k to restore her upper teeth(I'm assuming that to mean get implants). I could see the restoration and then another whatever it is amount for her work lost, transportation, and a few bucks for the embarrassment she's likely dealt with after. That might amount to about 200k total, but 2 mil? A nest age just for losing your top choppers? Who is this dentist? I want a deal like that. I'll fork over my upper pegs for 2 mil and mine are in pretty good shape. :-)

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Re: dental primitive pulls wrong teeth
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2009, 12:35:03 PM »
I bet some of those folks in the NHS in England who were pulling their own teeth would have loved this overambitious dentist working in their mouths.  :-)
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And from what I've seen of the English, just about any tooth he pulled would be the right one.

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Re: dental primitive pulls wrong teeth
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2009, 02:30:42 PM »
And from what I've seen of the English, just about any tooth he pulled would be the right one.

My mother is a brit :hammer: :-)

Actually she does have those oddly peg like looking things, but her parents had very stunning choppers. I took after my own dad...it worked out perfect. Hers are too widely spaced and his are very close together to the point they are crooked they are so close....mine fell between that and are perfectly straight--way to even out the gene pool  :-) Course my oldest is going to cost me a fortune in orthodontics for sucking on her thumb until she was 5 :thatsright: