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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Kc25 on January 09, 2020, 11:36:09 AM
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212856385
Op Links a tweet to CBS News report saying Iranians shot down Airliner
First Response:
sandensea (9,681 posts)
1. Translation: We have no proof of that (and it was full of Iranians)
- but it makes the perfect causus belli.
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Then that DUer responds again to another that suggests Iran did it intentionally
sandensea (9,681 posts)
4. Or Cheeto's goons had a bomb planted therein
We know the GOPee considers false-flag attacks against civilians a viable option (Operation Northwoods, etc.).
The timing is obvious, and the motive is overwhelming: This looks every bit like a justification for war.
Then the DUer is questioned:
Star Member lapfog_1 (22,516 posts)
5. Right...
What is the motivation again? We plant a bomb on a commercial aircraft flying out of Tehran for the purpose of claiming Iran did it so we can attack Iran?
Right AFTER Iran launched 16 or so ballistic missiles at our bases in Iraq?
We already had ample justification for war... and the way more evil plan on our part would have been to leave people at the missile strike sites (especially Iraqi soldiers) rather than what you suggest, despite the 5 hours of warning that Iran apparently gave us that these sites would be hit by ballistic missiles.
I'm not saying that my scenario is correct... but I am wondering how the Iranian military couldn't be bothered to check with the airport for commercial traffic.
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sandensea (9,683 posts)
10. That's more or less the nature of false flag attacks - and Cheeto's capable of anything.
The only one who can possibly benefit from this tragedy - and at such a perfect timing - is the Orange Menace (and Bibi).
LOL he posted again that we would "never know the truth"
You know... even though it is OBVIOUS
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sandensea (9,685 posts)
7. As well, yes.
Whatever may have happened, we'll probably never know the truth.
We do already know how fast Cheeto's trying to turn this into a causus belli.
If anyone benefited from this tragedy, it's him (and Bibi).
Half this DUmmie's answers include Bibi :mental:
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Most of them are saying it's Trump's fault because he killed a terrorist. IF he hadn't done that then the incompetent Iranian military wouldn't have been shooting at planes.
Now, if the shoe were on the other foot and it was the US taking down a commercial aircraft because we'd been attacked so we accidentally shot down a civilian craft THEN ... wait, no, the DUmmies would still blame their own damn country.
They make no bones about how much they hate the USA.
KC
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Most of them are saying it's Trump's fault because he killed a terrorist. IF he hadn't done that then the incompetent Iranian military wouldn't have been shooting at planes.
Now, if the shoe were on the other foot and it was the US taking down a commercial aircraft because we'd been attacked so we accidentally shot down a civilian craft THEN ... wait, no, the DUmmies would still blame their own damn country.
They make no bones about how much they hate the USA.
KC
Yup...
This one though... just needs it to be a false flag operation.... *needs it* like a normal person needs oxygen
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Or maybe Revolutionary Guard Corporal I. B. Moroni and Sub-Lieutenant Idi Ota F'ed up.
Someone should be asking why Iran had not shut down all airports when they launched their missiles against the US bases. No outgoing take-offs; only land the few too close to divert.
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Now Buttplug is echoing that America is responsible for the jet's destruction.
"Innocent civilians are now dead because they were caught in the middle of an unnecessary and unwanted military tit for tat."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/buttigieg-says-iran-missile-that-struck-ukraine-plane-result-of-unwanted-military-tit-for-tat
'Middle'???
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212856385
Oh my. It's not quite what one expects.
comment 4052:
https://conservativecave.com/cave/index.php?topic=81827.4050
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Now Buttplug is echoing that America is responsible for the jet's destruction.
"Innocent civilians are now dead because they were caught in the middle of an unnecessary and unwanted military tit for tat."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/buttigieg-says-iran-missile-that-struck-ukraine-plane-result-of-unwanted-military-tit-for-tat
'Middle'???
Tehran is over 400 miles from Erbil, and nearly 500 miles from Baghdad. I guess that's one measure of how stupid Buttigieg thinks his sheeple are (IIRC, he served in the ME, so he probably has an idea of the distances). And he's probably correct.
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Most of them are saying it's Trump's fault because he killed a terrorist. IF he hadn't done that then the incompetent Iranian military wouldn't have been shooting at planes.
Now, if the shoe were on the other foot and it was the US taking down a commercial aircraft because we'd been attacked so we accidentally shot down a civilian craft THEN ... wait, no, the DUmmies would still blame their own damn country.
They make no bones about how much they hate the USA.
KC
Let me make it easier for you. In the world of the DUmmies, anything bad that happens is tRump's fault.
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sandensea (9,681 posts)
1. Translation: We have no proof of that (and it was full of Iranians)
- but it makes the perfect causus belli.
If you're going to use a Latin legal term to sound oh so important, at least f*cking spell it correctly.
Casus Belli.
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You just need to "connect the dots." The RUSSIAN missiles that shot down the 737 were given to Trump by Putin./DUmode
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Tehran is over 400 miles from Erbil, and nearly 500 miles from Baghdad. I guess that's one measure of how stupid Buttigieg thinks his sheeple are (IIRC, he served in the ME, so he probably has an idea of the distances). And he's probably correct.
Maybe not.
According to the documents, Buttigieg served in the Afghanistan Threat Finance Cell (ATFC) in Kabul, placing him in “an imminent danger pay area” from late March to mid-September 2014, while the then-32-year old was still serving his first term as mayor.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/442082-documents-provide-glimpse-into-buttigiegs-military-service
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We don't have a reason to go to war over it, there were no Americans on the plane and it was a Ukranian airliner.
If anyone should be pissed it is the Canadians, but teir limp wristed leader won't do anything about it. :thatsright:
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Oh my. It's not quite what one expects.
comment 4052:
https://conservativecave.com/cave/index.php?topic=81827.4050
I do not have access to that forum; I guess I haven't earned it yet.
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In a shocking revelation to DU conspiracy theorists and absolutely nobody else, Iran admits to shooting down the Ukrainian 737.
https://apnews.com/21f4a92a2dfbc38581719664bdf6f38e (https://apnews.com/21f4a92a2dfbc38581719664bdf6f38e)
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In a shocking revelation to DU conspiracy theorists and absolutely nobody else, Iran admits to shooting down the Ukrainian 737.
https://apnews.com/21f4a92a2dfbc38581719664bdf6f38e (https://apnews.com/21f4a92a2dfbc38581719664bdf6f38e)
No problem for DU; they'll just amend their position to "Trump started it by killing Soleimani".
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We don't have a reason to go to war over it, there were no Americans on the plane and it was a Ukranian airliner.
If anyone should be pissed it is the Canadians, but teir limp wristed leader won't do anything about it. :thatsright:
He did come out and protest it, but nobody recognized him. He was in blackface again.
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LOL he posted again that we would "never know the truth"
This is how DUmmies/Progs/Liberals in general "prove" anything they don't want to know the truth about. Climate Change anyone?
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This is how DUmmies/Progs/Liberals in general "prove" anything they don't want to know the truth about. Climate Change anyone?
Youd think they would be more upset with the jet going down with all that jet fuel burning. Guess it's ok if it's at the hands of iran