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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on April 17, 2018, 11:10:13 AM
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https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1261485
Oh my.
Poiuyt (12,489 posts) Sat Apr 7, 2018, 05:36 PM
Collecting Social Security and Medicare if you haven't paid taxes
I have a 67 year old relative who has always worked on a cash basis. To be honest, I don't think he has filed income taxes, at least not in the last 20 years. His ability to do the type of physical labor that he's done all of his life is decreasing. When I've asked him why he doesn't collect SS, he just says, "Nah, I don't want to do that." I think he doesn't what to deal with the government because he's been off the grid for so long.
Does he have any options for collecting government benefits?
exboyfil (9,143 posts) Sat Apr 7, 2018, 05:44 PM
1. Everyone is entitled to SSI I think
It pays out at the Social Security minimum. Medicare requires earning a certain amount of social security credits, but no income means Medicaid eligibility.
His living off the grid means that both he and his employers have exploited the system though. The thing can only work if everybody is in the pool (and that includes the currently capped high earners as well).
Poiuyt (12,489 posts) Sat Apr 7, 2018, 06:04 PM
5. I agree that he's been exploiting the system
Now it's coming back to haunt him
asiliveandbreathe (3,242 posts) Sat Apr 7, 2018, 05:46 PM
2. For Medicare.....
United States Medicare is funded by a payroll tax, premiums and surtaxes from beneficiaries, and general revenue. It provides health insurance for Americans aged 65 and older who have worked and paid into the system through the payroll tax...
AFA SS - only guessing but it would seem, if you never paid IN, how can you get a payout??
Like taxes..if you don't pay in, how do you expect a refund?
MichMan (1,426 posts) Sun Apr 8, 2018, 02:08 AM
10. He is lucky he hasn't been charged with tax evasion
Wants the benefits of living in the country while expecting the rest of us to pay for it because he can't be bothered with paying his share
Maybe that's why he doesn't want to press the issue now
PoindexterOglethorpe (5,579 posts) Mon Apr 9, 2018, 02:30 AM
12. Gosh, he never paid in and now he wants to collect?
No.
Over the years I've known a surprising number of people who have been very proud of themselves for cheating the government and not paying taxes. Got paid on a cash basis. They have no reason to complain now that they can't collect SS or Medicare.
I have zero sympathy for people like that.
Taking a quick look at SSI, there's a distant possibility he's eligible just based on his age, but he'll need to research it.
Oh my, how self-righteously indignant the primitives, about some guy cheating the system.
Yet at the same time it's okay with them that others, such as the cheating HawkeyeX primitive, cheat.
I guess it depends upon who one is.....
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Yet they'l denounce the Welfare Queen stereotype* as pure fiction.
* It is a stereotype, possibly over-invoked, but like many/most stereotypes it has a basis in reality.
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I'm more concerned about illegal immigrants getting freebies from the government than I am about a US citizen doing the same thing. :fuelfire:
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Like taxes..if you don't pay in, how do you expect a refund?
Yeah, why do illegal aliens get refunds? :thatsright:
JustABozoOnThisBus (16,017 posts)
4. Is he a veteran?
No, he eats meat. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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I'm more concerned about illegal immigrants getting freebies from the government than I am about a US citizen doing the same thing. :fuelfire:
Dummies aren't, in fact they celebrate illegals getting freebies.
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MichMan (1,426 posts) Sun Apr 8, 2018, 02:08 AM
10. He is lucky he hasn't been charged with tax evasion
Wants the benefits of living in the country while expecting the rest of us to pay for it because he can't be bothered with paying his share
Maybe that's why he doesn't want to press the issue now
Doesn't the bolded completely describe the DUmp monkeys?
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Shows how little they know.
If you're an American citizen, and you don't meet your 40 credits by age 65, you can still get Medicare Parts A & B, but you have to pay a premium for Part A and there's some other things that are different.
I'm not going to take the time to look it up. The primitives need to learn how to find out things on their own.
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