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blood test
« on: February 03, 2011, 05:37:02 PM »
So.....I go to the physician in the big city today, to get results of a blood test given me last week.

There's two pages of stuff, and one column is a handy-dandy guide to what's "normal" or "good."

There were forty-six tests run on the two test-tubes of blood that I kindly allowed them to take.

There are only three "flags;" everything else was well within the "normal" or "good" ranges.

HDL Cholesterol was 28, which apparently is somewhat low.

WBC (I assume White Blood Cells) was 11.1, which apparently a tad bit too high.

Neutrophils (Absolute) was 7.9, a razor's edge too high.

I'm not soliciting medical advice here, especially since I'll get that next week, but speculatively, at least bloodwise, I'm in good shape, right?
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Re: blood test
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2011, 06:01:50 PM »
Overall, yeah.
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Re: blood test
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2011, 06:05:17 PM »
Overall, yeah.

That's what I was curious about, overall.
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Re: blood test
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2011, 06:51:43 PM »
So.....I go to the physician in the big city today, to get results of a blood test given me last week.

There's two pages of stuff, and one column is a handy-dandy guide to what's "normal" or "good."

There were forty-six tests run on the two test-tubes of blood that I kindly allowed them to take.

There are only three "flags;" everything else was well within the "normal" or "good" ranges.

HDL Cholesterol was 28, which apparently is somewhat low.

WBC (I assume White Blood Cells) was 11.1, which apparently a tad bit too high.

Neutrophils (Absolute) was 7.9, a razor's edge too high.

I'm not soliciting medical advice here, especially since I'll get that next week, but speculatively, at least bloodwise, I'm in good shape, right?

Sounds like you are going to be with us for some time unless one of your cats bite you and you get Cat Scratch Fever.  My EX boss was bitten by his cat and came close to a blood infection, red streaks were beginning to form headed up his arm. No problem a good dose of antibiotics took care of that.

Your WBC may mean your body is gearing to fight off a cold, never know with those buggers, even an infected pimple will get them all rowdy and off to battle they go.

Amazing the body and what goes on there that we never know about. Just a scrape of the skin alerts those guys to get in battle gear and head out to save your life.

Now I am headed out to find out just what the heck Neutrophils is--It has been 30 years since I was in Nursing and the term does not sound familiar.

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Re: blood test
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2011, 06:54:09 PM »
White Blood Cells and Neutrophils are both part of the immune system, so you may have a slight infection somewhere.  Sounds like the blood work was good over all, so I wouldn't think you have anything to worry about.

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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2011, 07:17:47 PM »
I sure wouldn't be worried with numbers like that.  Another thought: you, like me, may just have high numbers in some spots. One reason is exposure to certain mono viruses at any time in your life, as conveyed to me by my doctor. The low cholesterol number could be a bi product of it being winter, since it is effected by how much exercise/activity we get.

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Re: blood test
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2011, 08:19:52 PM »
Coach,

As someone who gets their blood testing 4-6 times a year, a few words, if I may...

Here's what you REALLY need to be concerned about on a routine blood test:

http://www.flash-med.com/LabNormal.asp

These are the big ones my doctor goes over with me on a routine visit assuming I've done a 12-hour fast prior to blood draw.

A1C (hemoglobin) should be under 7, preferably under 6.  This a routine number all diabetics know.

Total cholesterol--Ideally (untreated) under 200, if over 240 you'll probably be put on something.

HDL -- High-density lipoproteins or "good" cholesterol.  Yours is low.  It should be at least 35-40.  Good ways to get that number up are exercise, and diets or supplements high in Omega-3 and Omega-6 fatty acids like fish, or take supplements like fish oil or Lovaza.  HDLs carry fats and cholesterol away from the blood and back to the liver.

LDL  -- Low-density lipoproteins or "bad" cholesterol.  Alcohol and fatty/red meats will increase this.  Ideally it should be under 130.  This is the big contributor to plaque in the arteries.

Triglycerides -- basically "fat" in the blood.  Again, alcohol and diet have a huge impact on this.  Keep it under 160.

Fasting blood sugar should be under 110.  Over 140 indicates diabetic.

There are a few others, like hematocrit, sodium, potassium, and beyond that, you need to discuss with your doctor.  I've found that WBC is always elevated (although not terribly so) in people who live in higher altitudes for some reason my corpsman explained to me a long time ago.  Again, SLIGHTLY above "normal" range isn't necessarily bad, but in ranges significantly outside that you need to ask your doctor what it means and what options you have.

Again, your low HDL (if that's your only issue) can easily be resolved with diet, exercise, and some fish oil or Niacin supplements.
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Re: blood test
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2011, 08:29:35 PM »
Coach,

As someone who gets their blood testing 4-6 times a year, a few words, if I may...

Here's what you REALLY need to be concerned about on a routine blood test:

http://www.flash-med.com/LabNormal.asp

These are the big ones my doctor goes over with me on a routine visit assuming I've done a 12-hour fast prior to blood draw.

A1C (hemoglobin) should be under 7, preferably under 6.  This a routine number all diabetics know.  don't see that term on report

Total cholesterol--Ideally (untreated) under 200, if over 240 you'll probably be put on something. 139

HDL -- High-density lipoproteins or "good" cholesterol.  Yours is low.  It should be at least 35-40.  Good ways to get that number up are exercise, and diets or supplements high in Omega-3 and Omega-6 fatty acids like fish, or take supplements like fish oil or Lovaza.  HDLs carry fats and cholesterol away from the blood and back to the liver.  28

LDL  -- Low-density lipoproteins or "bad" cholesterol.  Alcohol and fatty/red meats will increase this.  Ideally it should be under 130.  This is the big contributor to plaque in the arteries.  90

Triglycerides -- basically "fat" in the blood.  Again, alcohol and diet have a huge impact on this.  Keep it under 160.  107

Fasting blood sugar should be under 110.  Over 140 indicates diabetic.  94

There are a few others, like hematocrit, sodium, potassium, and beyond that, you need to discuss with your doctor.  I've found that WBC is always elevated (although not terribly so) in people who live in higher altitudes for some reason my corpsman explained to me a long time ago.  Again, SLIGHTLY above "normal" range isn't necessarily bad, but in ranges significantly outside that you need to ask your doctor what it means and what options you have.

Again, your low HDL (if that's your only issue) can easily be resolved with diet, exercise, and some fish oil or Niacin supplements.

Okay, I thought having a low HDL was good, not bad.  If it's as you describe sir, it's due to lack of exercise, because when the temperatures are below zero and the wind-chills below -25 for three weeks now, one isn't too motivated to exercise.
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Re: blood test
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2011, 08:45:44 PM »
Okay, I thought having a low HDL was good, not bad.  If it's as you describe sir, it's due to lack of exercise, because when the temperatures are below zero and the wind-chills below -25 for three weeks now, one isn't too motivated to exercise.

Well, that's fair too.  Part of HDL levels is purely genetic, but as I said earlier, HDLs carry away plaque from the blood to the liver and keep it from building up in the arteries, which is why diabetics have to not only be careful of blood sugar and cholesterol, but blood pressure as well, as high blood pressure "scores" the arteries, which is where plaque comes in to try to "repair" the arterial damage, but ends up blocking them eventually.

But other than that, sounds like you've got no serious issues.
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Re: blood test
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2011, 09:07:39 PM »
Doesn't sound bad at all frank, your WBC count is only 0.6 above normal limit, you could've had a little bit of a cold going on maybe? it's not so much over the limit to worry about though, your neutrophils are only 0.1 over normal range, not significant enough to worry about, your HDL should be above 39 so they might just tell you to exercise a little bit.
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Re: blood test
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2011, 09:12:08 PM »
frank you want a low LDL, that's the bad cholesterol, normal range for that is 0-99, you want a higher HDL, it should be over 39.
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Re: blood test
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2011, 09:18:32 PM »
frank you want a low LDL, that's the bad cholesterol, normal range for that is 0-99 90, you want a higher HDL 28, it should be over 39.

"Cholesterol, Total" is 139.

There's 46 tests on this report, and I'm scrupulously adhering to the exact terminology as given by Sparky, so as to not misquote any number.  I can't find the "A1C" though, and the hemoglobin thing seems to be different from what he mentions.
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Re: blood test
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2011, 09:21:12 PM »
"Cholesterol, Total" is 139.

There's 46 tests on this report, and I'm scrupulously adhering to the exact terminology as given by Sparky, so as to not misquote any number.  I can't find the "A1C" though, and the hemoglobin thing seems to be different from what he mentions.

The 139 is great, normal range is I think 100-199. I think the A1C is a special test given if someone's Glucose level is above normal, I think it's like a pre-Diabetic marker, I don't think Doctors send people for that routinely unless their Glucose level is above normal.
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2011, 09:23:00 PM »
I just saw your post now about your Glucose level, since it was 94 and within normal range I don't think the Doctor would send you for the A1C.
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Re: blood test
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2011, 12:31:21 AM »

HDL -- High-density lipoproteins or "good" cholesterol.  Yours is low.  It should be at least 35-40.  Good ways to get that number up are exercise, and diets or supplements high in Omega-3 and Omega-6 fatty acids like fish, or take supplements like fish oil or Lovaza.  HDLs carry fats and cholesterol away from the blood and back to the liver.


With a fresh crop of pecans, I eat a few pecans every day. They  raise my HDL level 3 to 5 points without changing anything else.

I read they were good for that and I tried it and I think it works... at least for me anyway.

Oh, and quitting smoking will lower your LDL some but you seem to be good in that department Frank.
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Re: blood test
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2012, 08:19:46 AM »
Okay, so here it is, a year later, another blood test (taken two weeks ago).  I get mailed all the results if there isn't any particular area of concern (in which case I get summoned before I see the report, but that's happened only one time), and then ask questions the next time I see the physician.

Apparently all's okay, because I got mailed the report.

Numbers from last year (actually February 2011) in red.

Total cholesterol 139 128

High Density Lipoproteins 28 31

Low Density Lipoproteins 90 90

Triglycerides 107 109

Fasting Blood Sugar 94 96

White Blood Cells 11.1 14.6

Neutropils (Absolute) 7.9 8.2

I assume it's all good, which surprised me because I'm trying to quit smoking, and I'm sure the lack of nicotine has screwed with all the other body chemistry.  (I had quit about a week before this blood test was taken.)

For the record, I do not recall any blood test taken in my adult life where the White Blood Cells ever placed within the "normal," always being slightly a wee little bit on the high side.  We're talking 30+ years here, and I suspect, either correctly or incorrectly, that it shows an immune system that's working very well, because I'm sure I'm exposed to enough infections that things would be considerably worse if the immune system wasn't so good.

At any rate, no physician looking at my long-term records has ever indicated any unease about that one.

This test was taken because given genetic propensities, I'm supposed to be diabetic, hypertensive, and overcholesteroled......but for some reason that pleases God, I'm not.  Both parents and all the six older brothers and sisters had high blood pressure.  My father and all the six older brothers and sisters developed diabetes at times between their late 20s and their early 40s.  I know some of them, maybe all of them, had problems with cholesterol, but can't break them down.  I assume my avoidance of grease has something to do with my avoidance of problems in this thing.

The low blood pressure (it was 98/61 at the time of this test) is of course extraordinary considering 30 years of chain-smoking, but it's not exactly unheard-of.  It apparently just doesn't happen enough (i.e., provide enough samples for study) for anyone to figure anything out about it.

One physician pointed out that fiber and roughage affect not only the absorbive and digestive channels, but the blood vessels too, and so my guess is that I've not only been roto-rootering the intestines, but also the blood vessels, because the diet is roughly, 6-8 times the minimum recommended daily allowance of fiber.

That's my guess anyway; anyone is free to disagree, pointing out where they think it might be wrong.

I don't consider this "asking for medical advice from strangers on the internet," because of course in real life I ask the physician.  But I was impressed that last year, NHSparky was on-spot, no deviations, from what the physician later told me, too.

The only question I have to ask the physician the next time I see him (in three weeks) is, if excessive intake of fiber has something to do with tearing up the guts inside.  As many here know, I have ulcers.  But that, I blame on the stresses and tension and sweaty terror involved with daily, hourly, minutely, masquerading as a hearing person when I'm in fact not.

The only health "issue" at the moment is quitting smoking, which has lately turned me into a convulsive unmellow personality, snarling and biting at anything that moves (other than the innocent cats; I can control that), and chewing on the ceiling.  But I remain defiantly confident.
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Re: blood test
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2012, 09:27:27 PM »
Have you thought about the ECigs frank?
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Re: blood test
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2012, 10:02:28 PM »
"Cholesterol, Total" is 139.

There's 46 tests on this report, and I'm scrupulously adhering to the exact terminology as given by Sparky, so as to not misquote any number.  I can't find the "A1C" though, and the hemoglobin thing seems to be different from what he mentions.

Frank, you do need to get your HDL levels up higher, imo, as I've read men need to be around 50.  I'd even suggest trying for a slightly higher overall cholesterol number; some studies have shown you CAN cut the number too low.

http://www.visivite.com/low-cholesterol.html

Your ratio is important too; divide the total cholesterol by your HDL and if it's less than 4.5 you're okay in the experts' opinions.  Most of them anyway.  Medical science can be more of a matter of interpretation.  For example, my last blood test my total cholesterol was 278 which totally freaks out my doctor but my HDL was 78.  Ratio of 3 puts me well within the safe range. :tongue: to my doctor who was still freaked. ::)  So now I am on Niaspan.

To better rule out heart disease indicators, there are some other tests you could ask your doctor to run:  fibrinogen and C-reactive protein.  Cholesterol levels are simply one method of detecting a risk.  My father-in-law suffered his first, and fatal, heart attack two months after receiving the all clear from a cholesterol test.
A1C's are typically only administered to diabetics.

Bleh, this thread reminds me I've got to go get poked with a needle this coming week.  Having a slew of health issues means I, like Sparky, have to get tested 4-6 times a year.
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Re: blood test
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2012, 10:12:09 PM »
No bad news is good news.  :II:

Reminds me that I should probably get in for a physical soon. Haven't had one in two years. Three?
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Re: blood test
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2012, 10:25:51 PM »
No bad news is good news.  :II:

Reminds me that I should probably get in for a physical soon. Haven't had one in two years. Three?
After the last one my doctor and I are common law married in all the bible belt states.  :panic:

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Yeah, my husband said his doctor got really up in his shit last visit. :-)
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