Maybe ya oughta tell us when you consider them human, Vest!
From the instant of conception,., this is a stage in a human development.
I come from the old days when a woman was pregnant about all she knew was at the doctors office she was allowed to hear the baby's heart beat.
I was very young when I and husband got pregnant, We had been married about 6 months and as neither of us knew anything about sex or birth controll we were amazed. We thought the condom was all we needed. I was an only child and only a dozen times around new born infants in my life.
I had to go to a college town to find a book that explained the process, Mom was no help, she herself was unsure of giving advice. No mother in law as she had passed when Hubby was about 10. This was first husband not my president husband.
What a mess we sat down to read the book and look at the drawings of each stage of life and even then it was difficult to believe that I was incubating a human. We both watch as my belly grew, felt the kicks and punches of the baby, but-to us it was a miracle, no we were not stupid, we saw pregnant woman ever day, it was that this was happening to us that was so over whelming.
When the daughter was born I who seldom had played with baby dolls went home to my moms for 2 weeks to learn how to care for this child. Mom was no help so we called in HER mother to show me how to change diapers, how to breast feed and what to do and what not to do with a child.
My grand mother was old school and went against all the new wave advice, stuff like putting a new born on a schedule that suits you. Never she taught me allow a child to cry themselves to sleep, baby's cry for a reason, you cannot spoil a child this age by comforting them.
She taught me ideas of child raising that was frowned on at that time. As in for the first 3 months keep that baby close to you body at all times, allow the baby to hear your heart beat and feel your skin and smell it, get use to your voice and that of the fathers.
Keep noise levels down and do not take the baby out into the bright sun, allow the baby to slowly get use to life outside the womb. Little by little as the child ages begin to draw back from this and NEVER allow a baby to cry for more then 5 minutes. As she said people don't yell unless there is an need for help.
This was my first child and I went on to have 3 more and each time I followed her advice and still felt that this was a miracle.
Only time I actually saw a baby inside me was when I had kidney failure and an EX ray was taken of my kidney and the Ex ray tech came running into my room all excited as the film showed the baby's skull and we poured over the film, there were the baby teeth moving up into the mouth, the eye sockets and the nose soon to fill in.
With all the new technology to show a woman what is growing within her at any stage, I cannot believe that anyone would abort what they know is a humane. But then there is money to be made by equating a baby even after birth as a worthless heap of cells. got to convince the mother to put her maternal side off in a corner and reject their child.
Interesting that when one sees a pregnant woman most of the time their hands and arms are around their belly. Without any thought these woman are protecting their child, instinct no doubt about it.