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Offline LC EFA

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I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
« on: January 21, 2009, 05:01:14 PM »
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comrade snarky  Donating Member  (563 posts) Tue Jan-20-09 09:23 PM
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I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
   
Amidst all the joy. Honestly, really, truly confused.
I have been waiting for the last month for Bush to pardon a whole slew of people. I expected a blanket pardon for the torture and wiretapping. I expected specific pardons for Gonzales and Cheney and probably Libby. I'd have put even money on him breaking with all tradition and pardoning himself.

But then there was almost nothing. Last night I wasn't surprised to hear about the 2 border agents who tried to cover their own asses to the point of lying about a shooting to superior officers. I was waiting for the rest. As the night wore on here on the West Coast I thought, no it wont be tonight. He'll wait until tomorrow to announce it.

Then today, nothing. No more pardons. Did Obama saying we should look forward give him a false sense of security? Could it be worse, is he stupid enough to think he didn't do anything wrong? Well I know he is but why didn't the usual handlers explain it to him?I cant imagine what must have gone on in his head.Ha

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This is the result of getting your news and views from DU and believing your own press for the last 8 years DUmmie.

Just because you believe it, and really want it to be true, don't make it so.

One day you might actually find the critical ingredient, the you know actual crime that was committed. Take your time. I'll wait.

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comrade snarky  Donating Member  (563 posts)  Tue Jan-20-09 09:27 PM
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4. I cant believe Obama would make that deal
   
I know he's a politician and will bend a belief in order to work out a compromise but that's just too far.

The thing is without blanket pardons the people in the middle, the ones who followed orders or gave opinions are in legal jeopardy. A lot of it in fact. These people are going to have every reason to drop a dime on a bigger fish.

It just doesn't add up.

You're confused because your premise is faulty. We've told you why over and over again but you just don't damn listen.

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MannyGoldstein  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Jan-20-09 09:25 PM
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3. I'm Confused Too, But...
   
I'll heed the words of my dad, who told me "never try to figure out what crazy people are thinking; you'll just get upset, and you'll never be right".

Trying to figure out what crazy people DU'ers are thinking provides me with endless entertainment.

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Generator  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Jan-20-09 09:31 PM
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9. Bush is such an asshole he thinks he and all his buds
   
are really above the law. No pardoning needed. And the rest of the schmucks in the world, screw 'em! That's the mindset I imagine from him. Of course, maybe it's more sinister. I hope someone in that damn admin finally gets some legal comeuppance.

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DainBramaged  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Tue Jan-20-09 09:49 PM
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17. He's a jug-eared little coward, who has NO friends.
   
no wonder here.

Do I sense a little projection here ?

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Bucky  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-21-09 05:40 PM
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26. it's inconvenient when the people we demonize don't conform to our preconceptions   Updated at 8:53 PM
   
I too would be more comfortable with Bush if he were the two dimensional cartoon villain talked about at DU. Unfortunately, he's an ordinary man--albeit a corrupt buffoon--who just happened to be elevated by arrogance, family ties, and the usual Republican conspiracy of self inflicted ignorance, to a job far beyond his abilities. He was never out to do evil; he doesn't seem capable of really any long term planning in either his personal life or his politics. He was out to enact a hollow philosophy of power and maybe grease a few friends along the way. He wasn't out to do evil this nation; he simply didn't have any mental comprehension of what "the public good" means beyond the shallow "low tax" catechism Republicans like to squawk without comprehending.

"inconvenient" ..Ha.

That you douches have been constantly wrong must be driving you insane.
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Re: I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2009, 05:03:48 PM »
It is confusing to a DUchebag that there would not be the slew of pay for pardons that was from billy jeff.

Guess what DUmbass, the Bush staff didn't trash the WH and steal everything in sight.  AMAZZZZZZZZZING.
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Re: I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2009, 05:21:05 PM »
Boy, the DUmmies are going to get mighty upset when B. Hussein yells "Jump!" and his cult followers are the only ones who yell back "How high?", and the rest of us just look at them and laugh.

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Re: I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2009, 05:21:24 PM »
You can`t pardon for crimes that don`t exist,end of discussion.

Lurking DUmmies...no martial law,no pardons...not one thing you kooks have been promising and cowering over.

What you had is an honorable man that bent over backwards to provide a smooth transition to a political opponent.

You will never understand what dignity and class is.
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Re: I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2009, 05:32:35 PM »
Shit like that happens when you're not in politics for the money.
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Re: I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2009, 06:20:45 PM »
Law abiding people don't require pardons.
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Re: I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2009, 06:22:32 PM »
Quote from: Big Don on January 21, 2009, 06:20:45 PM
Law abiding people don't require pardons.

Damn.

That's the phrase I've been trying to articulate since this bonfire was first brought over here.

Your cerebral cells work faster than mine, sir.
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Re: I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2009, 06:44:11 PM »
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26. it's inconvenient when the people we demonize don't conform to our preconceptions   Updated at 8:53 PM
   
I too would be more comfortable with Bush if he were the two dimensional cartoon villain talked about at DU. Unfortunately, he's an ordinary man--albeit a corrupt buffoon--who just happened to be elevated by arrogance, family ties, and the usual Republican conspiracy of self inflicted ignorance, to a job far beyond his abilities. He was never out to do evil; he doesn't seem capable of really any long term planning in either his personal life or his politics. He was out to enact a hollow philosophy of power and maybe grease a few friends along the way. He wasn't out to do evil this nation; he simply didn't have any mental comprehension of what "the public good" means beyond the shallow "low tax" catechism Republicans like to squawk without comprehending.

Only a DU'er could stand up for Bush while bashing him at the same time. 
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Re: I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2009, 07:58:39 PM »
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I have been waiting for the last month for Bush to pardon a whole slew of people. I expected a blanket pardon for the torture and wiretapping. I expected specific pardons for Gonzales and Cheney and probably Libby. I'd have put even money on him breaking with all tradition and pardoning himself.

Dear DUmp monkey,

BUSH IS NOT YOU.
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Re: I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2009, 11:58:56 PM »
Oh God! They are still talking about Bush pardons????????  :mental:
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Re: I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2009, 05:04:48 AM »
H5s for Big Don and my neighbor for center-of-mass hits on the target.  Let me make it a tad more visible for lurking DUmb****s . . .

If no laws are broken, there's no need for pardons!

Though, for his work since prison, I was hoping that MIchael Milken would have received one.
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Re: I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2009, 05:08:58 AM »
Quote from: Carl on January 21, 2009, 05:21:24 PM
You can`t pardon for crimes that don`t exist,end of discussion.

Lurking DUmmies...no martial law,

Yes, but what about marshall law?
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Re: I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2009, 05:13:57 AM »
Quote from: Sam Adams on January 22, 2009, 05:08:58 AM
Yes, but what about marshall law?

I'm sure that there's marital law involved . . .
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Re: I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2009, 08:23:19 AM »
Quote from: Sam Adams on January 22, 2009, 05:08:58 AM
Yes, but what about marshall law?




Yeah!

What about ME?????
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Re: I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2009, 08:27:36 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on January 22, 2009, 05:04:48 AM
H5s for Big Don and my neighbor for center-of-mass hits on the target.  Let me make it a tad more visible for lurking DUmb****s . . .

If no laws are broken, there's no need for pardons!

Though, for his work since prison, I was hoping that MIchael Milken would have received one.

Perhaps a shade more accurately:

If no laws are broken, if no trials have been held, if no defendants have been convicted of crimes that they were accused of committing, THEN:

THERE'S NO NEED FOR PARDONS!
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Re: I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2009, 11:17:08 AM »
Quote from: MarshallLaw on January 22, 2009, 08:23:19 AM



Yeah!

What about ME?????

It's all about you, isn't it?  :tongue: :p ;)

Eupher, you have to understand the minds of the DUmb****s.  Simple is better.
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Re: I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2009, 01:11:07 PM »
This is what some DUers will always fail to grasp.

There's no need for Bush to pardon himself or others when they haven't and won't be convicted of any crimes.


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Re: I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2009, 02:14:35 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on January 22, 2009, 11:17:08 AM
...snip....
Eupher, you have to understand the minds of the DUmb****s.  Simple is better.

A thousand pardons, sir. It's true I don't dally in the DUmmy lair. It's all I can do to keep from puking when I read the shit that's imported here. Even the "sanitized" versions are enough to cause warts, inflame hemorrhoids, and grow hair on palms.
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Re: I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2009, 02:27:46 PM »
You guys, you should know by know that trying to reason with the DUmmies is a waste of breath. Here's how you reply to them in a way that is entertaining for you, and might actually be swallowed by a DUmmy...

Hey, pssst, DUmmies! The Chimperor doesn't need a pardon, because he has nothing to fear from the new Pres. That's right. Obama bin Cokespoon, aka Skinnypants, your jug-eared fool of a President, was hand picked by Rove for the position. Did you really think a black socialist could get elected in this country without the collusion of the Bush Cabal, the DLC, and the PNAC? Are you guys really that naive?  :evillaugh:
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Re: I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2009, 02:35:55 PM »
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Re: I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons

Don't be confused, Little Goon.  Pardons weren't for sale.  Two-term President George W. Bush is not a democrat.
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Re: I am confused by the lack of Bush pardons
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2009, 08:24:03 PM »
Why should you be confused??

You were wrong about Bush. Get over it.
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