Are you afraid of the Federal government? (PARANOIA ALERT!!!)

[Ralph Wiggum]

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arcadian  (75 posts)
Tue May-20-08 07:29 PM
Original message
Are you afraid of the Federal government?
   
Edited on Tue May-20-08 07:31 PM by arcadian
Have you ever had a visions of FBI or a SWAT Team knocking in your door and taking you off screaming and kicking in the night? Do you think that the government is searching through your internet habits? Reading your email?

I ask this because I was at my brother-in-laws house and he got upset with me for looking at "political websites". Said he didn't want the government thinking that he was looking at subversive stuff on the internet. He is very liberal, by the way. Makes me wonder how pervasive this is in our society, it's almost become a sort of under lying theme, that the government is looking at you.

So what do you think? Are you afraid?

angstlessk(1000+ posts)
Tue May-20-08 07:34 PM
Response to Original message
5. I am afraid of THIS administration, not the government as a whole
   
I will regain my confidence once we have a Democrat at the helm!

Sure, Democrats don't ever spy on people.

gateley  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)
Tue May-20-08 07:35 PM
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6. Yes --
   
Like your brother, I believe they're watching us.

And like in Nazi Germany, even if they're really not, they've got us believing they are, so they've won.

I just finished a novel where a guy (former Secret Service) found a CIA op brining in heroin. They caught him on the property and tortured him. The torture described was very realistic. Sitting on the edge of a stool for 24 hours, putting him in a coffin-like enclosure, heat, cold, water, etc. When he'd ask for an attorney, they'd use the Homeland Security line and say he wasn't entitled to one.

I honestly believe that can happen and is probably happening to a certain extent - to our citizens. The police, the Feds, your attorney, nobody can help you

undergroundpanther(1000+ posts)
Tue May-20-08 07:38 PM
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9. I had them take my neighbor away
   
I'm not scared of them, I just hate them.I hate them because I do not trust them,at all. And I hate authoritarians and there seems to be too many of these toxic assholes on power trips in the federal government..
I asked the nearest FBI guy that day standing in my yard what was going on,he told me some bullshit, and I told him he was bullshitting me and I knew it.And I was furious at them, thier ****ing bullying crap. I hate when assholes pull the authority card.I do not trust the federal govt.and I will never submit to them because I don't think they care about anyone but obeying the ass above giving them orders.

http://www.unknownnews.org/070217a-Panther.html

[Chris_]

arcadian  (75 posts)
Tue May-20-08 07:29 PM
Original message
Are you afraid of the Federal government?
  
Edited on Tue May-20-08 07:31 PM by arcadian
Have you ever had a visions of FBI or a SWAT Team knocking in your door and taking you off screaming and kicking in the night? Do you think that the government is searching through your internet habits? Reading your email?

If Obama gets what he wants, he'll have SWAT teams kicking in your door to turn down your thermostat and confiscate your SUV.  You'll probably get 5-10 just for burning incadescent bulbs.

</silly>

[Carl]

Do they not realize how easy it would be for the government to find them with all their Internet posting if the government wanted to? 

[dandi]

undergroundpanther(1000+ posts)
Tue May-20-08 07:38 PM
Response to Original message
9. I had them take my neighbor away
   
I'm not scared of them, I just hate them.I hate them because I do not trust them,at all. And I hate authoritarians and there seems to be too many of these toxic assholes on power trips in the federal government..
I asked the nearest FBI guy that day standing in my yard what was going on,he told me some bullshit, and I told him he was bullshitting me and I knew it.And I was furious at them, thier ****ing bullying crap. I hate when assholes pull the authority card.I do not trust the federal govt.and I will never submit to them because I don't think they care about anyone but obeying the ass above giving them orders.

Umm, isn't that what "the authorities" like the FBI do? Or should they change the title of the Ten Most Wanted list to the Ten People We'd Most Like To Have A Coke And A Smile With?

[Rebel]

Yes, I'm afraid of federal government. ESPECIALLY if it's controlled by you fools.

[Georgia Bulldog]

Yes, I'm afraid of federal government. ESPECIALLY if it's controlled by you fools.

I agree, with fools like them in charge there's reason to be afraid!

[DumbAss Tanker]

It won't help him.  I checked, his brother-in-law is on the list for Round 3.

 

[Lauri]

ndergroundpanther(1000+ posts)
Tue May-20-08 07:38 PM
Response to Original message
9. I had them take my neighbor away
   
I'm not scared of them, I just hate them.I hate them because I do not trust them,at all. And I hate authoritarians and there seems to be too many of these toxic assholes on power trips in the federal government..
I asked the nearest FBI guy that day standing in my yard what was going on,he told me some bullshit, and I told him he was bullshitting me and I knew it.And I was furious at them, thier ******* bullying crap. I hate when assholes pull the authority card.I do not trust the federal govt.and I will never submit to them because I don't think they care about anyone but obeying the ass above giving them orders.

check out the two bolded sections.

she had someone taken away, yet she hates authority..? who gave her the authority to have someone taken away?

this woman is seriously ill... she may be too far beyond it at this point, but i just cant be sorry enough for the people who are exposed to her on a daily or weekly basis..

[Flame]

ndergroundpanther(1000+ posts)
Tue May-20-08 07:38 PM
Response to Original message
9. I had them take my neighbor away
   
I'm not scared of them, I just hate them.I hate them because I do not trust them,at all. And I hate authoritarians and there seems to be too many of these toxic assholes on power trips in the federal government..
I asked the nearest FBI guy that day standing in my yard what was going on,he told me some bullshit, and I told him he was bullshitting me and I knew it.And I was furious at them, thier ******* bullying crap. I hate when assholes pull the authority card.I do not trust the federal govt.and I will never submit to them because I don't think they care about anyone but obeying the ass above giving them orders.

check out the two bolded sections.

she had someone taken away, yet she hates authority..? who gave her the authority to have someone taken away?

this woman is seriously ill... she may be too far beyond it at this point, but i just cant be sorry enough for the people who are exposed to her on a daily or weekly basis..

The think she meant she "experienced" them taking her neighbor away, rather than they took her neighbor on her request.

[Lauri]

hmm.. maybe so.

of course, she probably only knows or wants to divulge half the story. maybe the neighbor was a deadbeat father, a drug dealer... i have never in my life seen or heard of someone just being taken away with no reason. i have lived all over this country, and even in Canada. if it were actually happening, the media would be more than happy to report on *that* ..

i dont think our govt has that kind of time to dink around with people .. just cause. they typically are picked up on warrants and such.

but if the FBI was hanging around her lawn, then... something pretty substantial was happening. she might just be damn lucky that they picked up a serial killer or someone just as dangerous before they could strike again.

[jinxmchue]

I think his brother-in-law should get back on his meds.

[BlueStateSaint]

Yes, I'm afraid of federal government. ESPECIALLY if it's controlled by you fools.

I agree, with fools like them in charge there's reason to be afraid!

H5s for you both!  And, I'll second the sentiment . . . or third it . . .

[FlaGator]

I never thought I'd see the day. The mother Teresa of DU, Underground Panther, hates something...

[ScubaGuy]

hmm.. maybe so.

of course, she probably only knows or wants to divulge half the story. maybe the neighbor was a deadbeat father, a drug dealer... i have never in my life seen or heard of someone just being taken away with no reason. i have lived all over this country, and even in Canada. if it were actually happening, the media would be more than happy to report on *that* ..

i dont think our govt has that kind of time to dink around with people .. just cause. they typically are picked up on warrants and such.

but if the FBI was hanging around her lawn, then... something pretty substantial was happening. she might just be damn lucky that they picked up a serial killer or someone just as dangerous before they could strike again.

One thing to remember is that this story is being told by someone who believes that she's actually a male panther stuck in a female human body.  She has conversations with dead chickens and panthers that live under the trees.  She claims to have been force fed grapefruit juice by the feds as part of a remote viewing experiment when she was young.

My bet is that nothing ever happened to her neighbor and quite possibly she never even had a neighbor.

As for the other posts, regular drug use will make you paranoid.

[JohnnyReb]

hmm.. maybe so.

of course, she probably only knows or wants to divulge half the story. maybe the neighbor was a deadbeat father, a drug dealer... i have never in my life seen or heard of someone just being taken away with no reason. i have lived all over this country, and even in Canada. if it were actually happening, the media would be more than happy to report on *that* ..

i dont think our govt has that kind of time to dink around with people .. just cause. they typically are picked up on warrants and such.

but if the FBI was hanging around her lawn, then... something pretty substantial was happening. she might just be damn lucky that they picked up a serial killer or someone just as dangerous before they could strike again.

One thing to remember is that this story is being told by someone who believes that she's actually a male panther stuck in a female human body.  She has conversations with dead chickens and panthers that live under the trees.  She claims to have been force fed grapefruit juice by the feds as part of a remote viewing experiment when she was young.

My bet is that nothing ever happened to her neighbor and quite possibly she never even had a neighbor.

As for the other posts, regular drug use will make you paranoid.

...and just think, I used to drink grapefruit juice of my own free will.....never again.

[Bondai]

I will never submit to them because I don't think they care about anyone but obeying the ass above giving them orders.

Oh  If the Feds came to her door she would piss her pants and drop to her knees begging for mercy...."I'll tell you anything you want to know" Just another DUmmy with a martyr complex....

[Lauri]

hmm.. maybe so.

of course, she probably only knows or wants to divulge half the story. maybe the neighbor was a deadbeat father, a drug dealer... i have never in my life seen or heard of someone just being taken away with no reason. i have lived all over this country, and even in Canada. if it were actually happening, the media would be more than happy to report on *that* ..

i dont think our govt has that kind of time to dink around with people .. just cause. they typically are picked up on warrants and such.

but if the FBI was hanging around her lawn, then... something pretty substantial was happening. she might just be damn lucky that they picked up a serial killer or someone just as dangerous before they could strike again.

One thing to remember is that this story is being told by someone who believes that she's actually a male panther stuck in a female human body.  She has conversations with dead chickens and panthers that live under the trees.  She claims to have been force fed grapefruit juice by the feds as part of a remote viewing experiment when she was young.

My bet is that nothing ever happened to her neighbor and quite possibly she never even had a neighbor.

As for the other posts, regular drug use will make you paranoid.

well, thats a thread i'd love to read     

and you are correct... trying to ask "why" or give any meaning to an UP post is like trying to interpret my dog's emotional state day to day.

[ScubaGuy]

hmm.. maybe so.

of course, she probably only knows or wants to divulge half the story. maybe the neighbor was a deadbeat father, a drug dealer... i have never in my life seen or heard of someone just being taken away with no reason. i have lived all over this country, and even in Canada. if it were actually happening, the media would be more than happy to report on *that* ..

i dont think our govt has that kind of time to dink around with people .. just cause. they typically are picked up on warrants and such.

but if the FBI was hanging around her lawn, then... something pretty substantial was happening. she might just be damn lucky that they picked up a serial killer or someone just as dangerous before they could strike again.

One thing to remember is that this story is being told by someone who believes that she's actually a male panther stuck in a female human body.  She has conversations with dead chickens and panthers that live under the trees.  She claims to have been force fed grapefruit juice by the feds as part of a remote viewing experiment when she was young.

My bet is that nothing ever happened to her neighbor and quite possibly she never even had a neighbor.

As for the other posts, regular drug use will make you paranoid.

well, thats a thread i'd love to read     

and you are correct... trying to ask "why" or give any meaning to an UP post is like trying to interpret my dog's emotional state day to day.

I'll try to find a link to it.

IIRC she claims that when she was a child she was locked up as part of some experiment.

[delilahmused]

It was pineapple juice and you have to drink tons of it evidently.

Cindie

[Lauri]

hmm.. maybe so.

of course, she probably only knows or wants to divulge half the story. maybe the neighbor was a deadbeat father, a drug dealer... i have never in my life seen or heard of someone just being taken away with no reason. i have lived all over this country, and even in Canada. if it were actually happening, the media would be more than happy to report on *that* ..

i dont think our govt has that kind of time to dink around with people .. just cause. they typically are picked up on warrants and such.

but if the FBI was hanging around her lawn, then... something pretty substantial was happening. she might just be damn lucky that they picked up a serial killer or someone just as dangerous before they could strike again.

One thing to remember is that this story is being told by someone who believes that she's actually a male panther stuck in a female human body.  She has conversations with dead chickens and panthers that live under the trees.  She claims to have been force fed grapefruit juice by the feds as part of a remote viewing experiment when she was young.

My bet is that nothing ever happened to her neighbor and quite possibly she never even had a neighbor.

As for the other posts, regular drug use will make you paranoid.

well, thats a thread i'd love to read     

and you are correct... trying to ask "why" or give any meaning to an UP post is like trying to interpret my dog's emotional state day to day.

I'll try to find a link to it.

IIRC she claims that when she was a child she was locked up as part of some experiment.

yeah, it was probably one of those "i need some sanity in my day' that her mom tried to practice once a week..

although seriously, if this woman had that much abuse - she's told so many tales at this point, nobody could really believe her. i do pity the girl..

[Airwolf]

hmm.. maybe so.

of course, she probably only knows or wants to divulge half the story. maybe the neighbor was a deadbeat father, a drug dealer... i have never in my life seen or heard of someone just being taken away with no reason. i have lived all over this country, and even in Canada. if it were actually happening, the media would be more than happy to report on *that* ..

i dont think our govt has that kind of time to dink around with people .. just cause. they typically are picked up on warrants and such.

but if the FBI was hanging around her lawn, then... something pretty substantial was happening. she might just be damn lucky that they picked up a serial killer or someone just as dangerous before they could strike again.

She should be ecstatic that she wasn't the one hauled off to the padded rooms of the grey bar Hilton

[Lauri]

hmm.. maybe so.

of course, she probably only knows or wants to divulge half the story. maybe the neighbor was a deadbeat father, a drug dealer... i have never in my life seen or heard of someone just being taken away with no reason. i have lived all over this country, and even in Canada. if it were actually happening, the media would be more than happy to report on *that* ..

i dont think our govt has that kind of time to dink around with people .. just cause. they typically are picked up on warrants and such.

but if the FBI was hanging around her lawn, then... something pretty substantial was happening. she might just be damn lucky that they picked up a serial killer or someone just as dangerous before they could strike again.

She should be ecstatic that she wasn't the one hauled off to the padded rooms of the grey bar Hilton

the odd thing is, she could be posting from there already... how would we know? 

[Airwolf]

hmm.. maybe so.

of course, she probably only knows or wants to divulge half the story. maybe the neighbor was a deadbeat father, a drug dealer... i have never in my life seen or heard of someone just being taken away with no reason. i have lived all over this country, and even in Canada. if it were actually happening, the media would be more than happy to report on *that* ..

i dont think our govt has that kind of time to dink around with people .. just cause. they typically are picked up on warrants and such.

but if the FBI was hanging around her lawn, then... something pretty substantial was happening. she might just be damn lucky that they picked up a serial killer or someone just as dangerous before they could strike again.

She should be ecstatic that she wasn't the one hauled off to the padded rooms of the grey bar Hilton

the odd thing is, she could be posting from there already... how would we know? 

Very True. They let all the other oddballs over at DU post from the asylums so why not her?