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Offline Eagle Kammback

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« on: March 08, 2011, 03:21:33 AM »
Well, been lying in bed trying to sleep for about 5 hours now, this is the worst I've been in a while, I usually can fall asleep within 2 or 3 hours (after taking 2 advil PMs), whihc is long compared to how quickly I should sleep
My mind just doesn't shut down
I used to think it's because I sleep late, sometimes 1PM, but I thought I slept late because I fell asleep late
It's not like I didn't do anything today and now have energy that wants to be used, I woke up around 9 and busted my ass at work most of the day (3-11 shift)
I've tried a bunch of things, I'd rather not take pills (I didn't take the PMs tonight figuring I'd fall asleep quickly because of everything I did today)
I even put on one of my Pat Metheny Group albums (American Garage)
I don't know if it's subconscious nervousness because of a date I have on Saturday, but I don't feel nervous
I had ADHD as a kid, they say I don't now, but I think I still have ADD, though I haven't taken meds for it in several years.
Seriously, I just can't stop thinking, about anything and everything

Does anybody here have any advice
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2011, 03:29:16 AM »
Its that shift. When I do that I can't sleep for shit.
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2011, 07:57:22 AM »
May I suggest Melatonin?  It won't knock you out like some of those sleep meds.  It is primarily used for people to overcome jet lag and regulate their sleeping patterns.  You can buy it in the vitamin section of your local drug store.
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2011, 08:52:03 AM »
Quote from: Eagle Kammback on March 08, 2011, 03:21:33 AM
Well, been lying in bed trying to sleep for about 5 hours now, this is the worst I've been in a while, I usually can fall asleep within 2 or 3 hours (after taking 2 advil PMs), whihc is long compared to how quickly I should sleep
My mind just doesn't shut down
I used to think it's because I sleep late, sometimes 1PM, but I thought I slept late because I fell asleep late
It's not like I didn't do anything today and now have energy that wants to be used, I woke up around 9 and busted my ass at work most of the day (3-11 shift)
I've tried a bunch of things, I'd rather not take pills (I didn't take the PMs tonight figuring I'd fall asleep quickly because of everything I did today)
I even put on one of my Pat Metheny Group albums (American Garage)
I don't know if it's subconscious nervousness because of a date I have on Saturday, but I don't feel nervous
I had ADHD as a kid, they say I don't now, but I think I still have ADD, though I haven't taken meds for it in several years.
Seriously, I just can't stop thinking, about anything and everything

Does anybody here have any advice

When my head hits the pillow I'm out like a light, but my Husband is the opposite, not sure if it's hereditary because his Mom is the same way, they tend to worry about so many things that it interferes with their sleeping. I bought 1 of those machines that play nature sounds, sounds like a streaming river, rain etc. but it hasn't worked.
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2011, 04:11:29 PM »
Valerian, melatonin, perhaps a pharmaceutical drug.  Everyone is different.  Every night is different, for the same person.  My husband suffers from insomnia.  I did for 20 years until I started taking Benadryl.  I do have allergies, but they're under control from shots nowadays, but without the Benadryl I can't sleep.

Good luck; it's a very common problem, but maddeningly elusive to treat.
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2011, 09:52:54 PM »
I like catnip,pretty good stuff and inexpensive.
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2011, 09:58:47 PM »
Tense and release works for me, a lot of times I am out before I make it through my whole body.

Sometimes I count too.  I count from 1-33 and try to focus on the numbers, actually see them, and usually I am out by 18.
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2011, 10:27:22 PM »
I take a zanaflex and within an hour I am out.  Love that stuff, doesn't make me feel groggy at all and is out of me within 2 hrs
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2011, 10:36:33 PM »
I drink chamomile tea and read a book that doesn't interest me.  When I actually climb into bed, I keep thinking about the boring book, or "put" myself in a pleasant place.  It used to be a mountain meadow, and I had a couple horses and camping stuff along, they were munching grass nearby and I was listening to water run in the stream, etc.  Since I have 5 kids, another good place is a house that only I live in...I'm relaxing in a lounge after doing some gardening or cutting firewood or some hard labor, the sun is warm, I'm all alone with no money worries, no demanding kids, no problems at all.  Even the dogs are quiet and obedient.   :-) :-)
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2011, 02:43:35 AM »
I use raw alcohol and electronic music. Puts me out like a light.

Can't say this will work for you - just throwing it out there.
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2011, 04:41:15 AM »
Quote from: Duke Nukum on March 08, 2011, 09:58:47 PM
Tense and release works for me, a lot of times I am out before I make it through my whole body.

Sometimes I count too.  I count from 1-33 and try to focus on the numbers, actually see them, and usually I am out by 18.


I run through square numbers from 1-99, but lately have been working into the three digit numbers.
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2011, 05:05:32 AM »
What is this 'sleep' you speak of? 
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2011, 02:49:59 PM »
Mrs E is perplexed and envious about my ability to fall asleep.

She's gone so far as to put a timer on me. Within 40 seconds, usually, I'm out after having put the Kindle down or having come back from the bathroom.

No sleep aids, no tea, no alcohol, no counting, no sheep ---- oh, wait....... :rotf:
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2011, 06:39:56 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on March 09, 2011, 02:49:59 PM
Mrs E is perplexed and envious about my ability to fall asleep.

She's gone so far as to put a timer on me. Within 40 seconds, usually, I'm out after having put the Kindle down or having come back from the bathroom.

No sleep aids, no tea, no alcohol, no counting, no sheep ---- oh, wait....... :rotf:

Hey Eupher??

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I consider myself lucky if I get 2½ hours of sleep at a time. You wouldn't BELIEVE all of the crap I take to get to sleep.
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2011, 09:08:18 PM »
Quote from: Thor on March 09, 2011, 06:39:56 PM
Hey Eupher??

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I consider myself lucky if I get 2½ hours of sleep at a time. You wouldn't BELIEVE all of the crap I take to get to sleep.

Well, if it makes you feel any better, I can't sleep longer than 4 hours at a time -- the bladder gets me up. And it'll get worse as I get older.
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2011, 05:08:49 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on March 09, 2011, 09:08:18 PM
Well, if it makes you feel any better, I can't sleep longer than 4 hours at a time -- the bladder gets me up. And it'll get worse as I get older.

Don't know if it would help you, Eupher, but I've ALWAYS been plagued by bladder issues.  Until very recently I would be awakened a minimum of 3 times a night.  Then, for a separate health issue, my doctor prescribed Neurontin.  It didn't do squat for my fibromyalgia but it did seem to quiet the bladder nerve endings enough for me to sleep like a baby a minimum of six hours now.
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2011, 07:59:08 PM »
Well, so far I'm getting up only once. Later on when I have to get up 2-3 times a night, I'll give the doc a call and request a built-in catheter.  :rotf:
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2011, 05:29:31 AM »
Quote from: Eupher on March 09, 2011, 09:08:18 PM
Well, if it makes you feel any better, I can't sleep longer than 4 hours at a time -- the bladder gets me up. And it'll get worse as I get older.

If I sleep longer than 4 hours, dang kids wake me up checking to see if I'm breathing. I sleep about 6 hrs once a week.
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2011, 06:06:27 AM »
I feel for you.  I've struggled with insomnia for years.  I'll feel sleepy, but as soon as I begin to drift off my mind starts to whirl like a hamster wheel on steroids.

There are some good suggestions here that are worth a try.  Someone said upthread that everyone's body is different and that's excellent advice to keep in mind.  I know I've tried everything mentioned here with no results.  The only thing that helps me without a hangover is Xanax. 
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2011, 09:51:01 AM »
Quote from: Eupher on March 10, 2011, 07:59:08 PM
Well, so far I'm getting up only once. Later on when I have to get up 2-3 times a night, I'll give the doc a call and request a built-in catheter.  :rotf:

I tell ya what........ I'm REAL close to asking for a Foley Catheter......  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2011, 08:58:17 PM »

Since last Sunday, I've only had about 16 hours of sleep, total.

It has definitely affected my mood and mental clarity.



Tylenol PM here I come.   :yawn:

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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2011, 09:09:30 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on March 09, 2011, 02:49:59 PM
Mrs E is perplexed and envious about my ability to fall asleep.

She's gone so far as to put a timer on me. Within 40 seconds, usually, I'm out after having put the Kindle down or having come back from the bathroom.

No sleep aids, no tea, no alcohol, no counting, no sheep ---- oh, wait....... :rotf:

LOL, my head hits the pillow and I'm sound asleep, hubby is the opposite. 1 night he was having a tough time sleeping and asked me to rub his head, I said sure, so I'm rubbing his head for about a minute then my hand stops, right before I fell asleep I hear him say "I asked you to rub my head so I can fall asleep and you fall asleep" LOLOL!
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2011, 09:11:17 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on March 09, 2011, 09:08:18 PM
Well, if it makes you feel any better, I can't sleep longer than 4 hours at a time -- the bladder gets me up. And it'll get worse as I get older.

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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2011, 11:03:54 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on March 12, 2011, 09:09:30 PM
LOL, my head hits the pillow and I'm sound asleep, hubby is the opposite. 1 night he was having a tough time sleeping and asked me to rub his head, I said sure, so I'm rubbing his head for about a minute then my hand stops, right before I fell asleep I hear him say "I asked you to rub my head so I can fall asleep and you fall asleep" LOLOL!

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Yeah, isn't it funny how our spouses can be completely annoyed at us because we, uh, well, zzzzzzzzzz
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Re: Sleep Issues
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2011, 11:06:17 AM »
Quote from: Eupher on March 12, 2011, 11:03:54 PM
:-)

Yeah, isn't it funny how our spouses can be completely annoyed at us because we, uh, well, zzzzzzzzzz

Sleep is weird for some of us, once I get to sleep I have very vivid dreams, when I was on the nicotine patch I had a hard time knowing if I was a sleep and dreaming  I was awake, or awake and thinking I was still dreaming.

We have sleep Labs that get into the workings of sleep and even they do don't know why even goldfish dream.

What about people that never remember their dreams at all???     Then there are us who have recurring dreams that may be a subconscious warning.

I wonder what my pets dream of they yip, yelp and their legs move, my cats keep a stoic stance, never let anyone know what is going on.

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