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Who Wants To See Carbon Taxes Imposed Worldwide?
« on: September 03, 2021, 07:44:27 AM »
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Who Wants To See Carbon Taxes Imposed Worldwide?

To reduce the coming destruction?

Thoughts?

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Re: Who Wants To See Carbon Taxes Imposed Worldwide?
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2021, 09:40:31 AM »
Wasn't there a hurricane in 1900 that crippled Galveston that was worse then Ida....... ITS CALLED WEATHER!

Meteorological records only date to the late 1800's.  A lot of strange weather has happened before that time, but since climate change conspiracy enthusiasts can't account for such anomalies, they just rely as usual on a lazy argument which agrees with their moonbat position.
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Re: Who Wants To See Carbon Taxes Imposed Worldwide?
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2021, 10:06:34 AM »
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Who Wants To See Carbon Taxes Imposed Worldwide?

To reduce the coming destruction?

Thoughts?

my first thought is you are an idiot

followed by the sneaking suspicion that you want everyone to pay these sham taxes except for you while you don't have the common sense to realize that any carbon tax levied against a business or corporation will trickle down into the cost of the goods or services that these corporations provide which means you will ultimately be the one paying these bullshit taxes, not the "evil" corporations.

My next thought is how do you assess these taxes?  On any entity that emits CO2?  Thinking back to your 5th grade science class do you recall that every breath you exhale emits CO2 into the atmosphere therefore you should be as liable for a carbon tax as any large "evil" corporation

Another thought is where are these ill gotten tax dollars going to be spent?  Are they going to produce giant carbon scrubbers to rid the world of all the carbon running around with nothing to do but create hurricanes or do you feel they should be spend on bullshit equity programs?

My final thought is should this tax be levied on all carbon producers world wide, or just those in the United States?  Compared to the rest of the world, our carbon footprint is rather small and insignificant when you put us up next to a country like china...

  ...and while on the subject of china, I do feel that there should be a pandemic tax levied against any country that knowingly or carelessly releases a biological hazard that kills millions of people, interferes with a nations political election systems and/or cripples world economies ... To reduce the coming destruction" :fuelfire:
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Re: Who Wants To See Carbon Taxes Imposed Worldwide?
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2021, 01:36:36 PM »
Show me where current carbon taxes are doing ANYTHING other than redistributing our "wealth" to shit hole countries. 
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Re: Who Wants To See Carbon Taxes Imposed Worldwide?
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2021, 02:18:20 PM »
Meteorological records only date to the late 1800's.  A lot of strange weather has happened before that time, but since climate change conspiracy enthusiasts can't account for such anomalies, they just rely as usual on a lazy argument which agrees with their moonbat position.

The song Oh! Susanna was written by Stephen Foster, an early proponent of whacky global warming and abrupt climate change theories.

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The song contains contradictory lines such as "It rain'd all night the day I left, The weather it was dry, The sun so hot I froze to death...", which have been described as "nonsense".[3] It is one of the songs by Foster that use the word "******" (others are "Old Uncle Ned" and "Oh! Lemuel", both also among Foster's early works), which appears in the second verse ("De lectric fluid magnified, And killed five hundred ******.").
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Re: Who Wants To See Carbon Taxes Imposed Worldwide?
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2021, 02:34:49 PM »
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Meteorological records only date to the late 1800's.  A lot of strange weather has happened before that time, but since climate change conspiracy enthusiasts can't account for such anomalies, they just rely as usual on a lazy argument which agrees with their moonbat position.

Or they ignore the past. There was a 2 year drought in Ca. in the late 1800's where it did not rain for two seasons. The Yuba River dried up, and most of the cattle in the state died because of it.
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Re: Who Wants To See Carbon Taxes Imposed Worldwide?
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2021, 03:17:25 PM »
Or they ignore the past. There was a 2 year drought in Ca. in the late 1800's where it did not rain for two seasons. The Yuba River dried up, and most of the cattle in the state died because of it.

Somewhat related because my favorite band recorded a song about it:

Charles Hatfield studied pluviculture and began to develop his own methods for producing rain. By 1902 he had created a secret mixture of 23 chemicals in large galvanized evaporating tanks that, he claimed, attracted rain. Hatfield called himself a "moisture accelerator".

In 1904, promoter Fred Binney began a public relations campaign for Hatfield. A number of Los Angeles ranchers saw his ads in newspapers and promised Hatfield $50 to produce rain.[citation needed] In February, Hatfield and his brother Paul built an evaporating tower at La Crescenta where Hatfield released his mixture into the air. Hatfield's attempt was apparently successful, so the ranchers paid him $100. Contemporary weather bureau reports described the rain as a small part of a storm that was already coming but Hatfield's supporters disregarded this.

Hatfield began to receive more job offers. He promised Los Angeles 18 inches (46 cm) of rain, apparently succeeded, and collected a fee of $1000.  For this effort, Hatfield had built his tower on the grounds of the Esperanza Sanitarium in Altadena, near Rubio Canyon.

In 1906 Hatfield was invited to the Yukon Territory, where he agreed to create rain for the water-dependent mines of the Klondike goldfields. The Klondike contract was for $10,000, but after unsuccessful efforts, Hatfield slipped away, collecting only $1,100 for expenses.  This failure did not deter his supporters.

In 1915 the San Diego city council, pressured by the San Diego Wide Awake Improvement Club, approached Hatfield to produce rain to fill the Morena Dam reservoir. Hatfield offered to produce rain for free, then charge $1,000 per inch ($393.7 per centimetre) for between forty and fifty inches (1.02 to 1.27 m) and free again over fifty inches (1.27 m). The council voted four to one for a $10,000 fee, payable when the reservoir was filled. A formal agreement was never drawn up, though Hatfield continued based on verbal understanding. Hatfield, with his brother, built a tower beside Lake Morena and was ready early in the New Year.

On January 5, 1916 heavy rain began—and grew gradually heavier day by day. Dry riverbeds filled to the point of flooding. Worsening floods destroyed bridges, marooned trains and cut phone cables - not to mention flooding homes and farms. Two dams, Sweetwater Dam and one at Lower Otay Lake, overflowed.  Rain stopped on 20 January but resumed two days later. On January 27 Lower Otay Dam broke, increasing the devastation and reportedly causing about 20 deaths (accounts vary on the exact number).

Charles Hatfield and the 1916 flooding at Lake Morena is the subject of the song "Hatfield" by the band Widespread Panic.


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Re: Who Wants To See Carbon Taxes Imposed Worldwide?
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2021, 07:15:14 PM »
Sure, but it’s the same for everyone. Let’s go with $100 (or whatever that amount is in the currency each individual on earth uses) from everyone on the planet. That’s $100 from me, $100 from every primitive, and $100 from Alain in Burundi. I mean, we’re all in this together, right? That would be $700 billion total. But either everyone contributes equally and all at the same time, or forget it.

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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2021, 08:04:17 PM »
I thought the libs hated 'barons'... lumber-barons, ship-barons, railroad-barons, silver-barons, etc.

Now we have the carbon-barons... if they can get-it-to-work.  It's a worldwide clunker at the moment.
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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2021, 11:14:55 AM »
I thought the libs hated 'barons'... lumber-barons, ship-barons, railroad-barons, silver-barons, etc.

Now we have the carbon-barons... if they can get-it-to-work.  It's a worldwide clunker at the moment.

I bet they would have hated Andrew Carnegie, the Rockefellers, and J.P. Morgan amongst other "barons" who revolutionized innovation in their era.
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Re: Who Wants To See Carbon Taxes Imposed Worldwide?
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2021, 12:41:39 PM »
I thought the libs hated 'barons'... lumber-barons, ship-barons, railroad-barons, silver-barons, etc.

Now we have the carbon-barons... if they can get-it-to-work.  It's a worldwide clunker at the moment.

So can we consider Al Gore to be the first of the Carbon Barons? He made millions from the scam.

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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2021, 06:25:51 AM »
So can we consider Al Gore to be the first of the Carbon Barons? He made millions from the scam.

His dream of establishing a carbon-credit market was way too complicated to ever get off the ground.  Nothing for him to do but put-on TV-makeup and pimp himself.
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Re: Who Wants To See Carbon Taxes Imposed Worldwide?
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2021, 11:06:39 AM »
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Who Wants To See Carbon Taxes Imposed Worldwide?

To reduce the coming destruction?

Thoughts?

DUmbass DanielRains, in the time it took for your stupid drugged addled brain to compose that brainless thought fart, China opened a new coal fired power plant.
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Re: Who Wants To See Carbon Taxes Imposed Worldwide?
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2021, 07:51:32 PM »
My take is the dummies are all in on Carbon Tax, renewables, electric vehicles.... until it actually takes effect and their power bill goes up, blackouts in the winter, etc.

Then they will all be crying like the whiny bitches they are.
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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2021, 12:02:57 PM »
Some of them are finally starting to figure out what we’ve known for decades; you can’t tax corporations. It’s impossible.

There’s a thread over there about that right now and I almost spit water on my screen. I’ve been banned from multiple liberal boards for trying to point out that simple truth.

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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2021, 12:15:47 PM »
So can we consider Al Gore to be the first of the Carbon Barons? He made millions from the scam.

He was all set up to make billions if it went through.  Contracts all signed with the Chicago Board of Trade.
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Re: Who Wants To See Carbon Taxes Imposed Worldwide?
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2021, 12:18:33 PM »
DUmbass DanielRains, in the time it took for your stupid drugged addled brain to compose that brainless thought fart, China opened a new coal fired power plant.

Speaking of new fossil fueled power plants, governor newscum recently and somewhat quietly ordered 5 gas fired power plants to add additional electric capacity to the golden state.  Basically governor recall is acknowledging that "green" energy isn't cutting it and we need to fall back on evil carbon based power.

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The California Energy Commission (CEC) has approved licenses for gas-fired power units to help the state cope with continued electricity shortages. The move comes after Gov. Gavin Newsom earlier declared a state of emergency for California’s power grid.

The state’s Dept. of Water Resources is procuring what it called five temporary gas-fueled generators, each with generation capacity of 30 MW, to install at existing power plants. The CEC on Aug. 17 approved licenses, good for up to five years, for the generators.

Newsom’s order, issued in July, is designed to free up additional energy capacity in the state.
It came during a major heat wave and was partly in response to the Bootleg Fire in Oregon, which threatened the regional power transmission system and California’s power supply. The governor’s order suspends certain permitting requirements, and allows the use of backup power generation, with a goal of alleviating heat-related supply demands on the power grid.

‘Act Immediately to Achieve Energy Stability’
“Governor Newsom’s emergency proclamation makes it very clear that all of our energy agencies have to act immediately to achieve energy stability during this emergency as well as accelerating plans for construction, procurement and rapid deployment of new clean-energy and storage projects,” CEC commissioner Karen Douglas said at Tuesday’s meeting where the licenses for the gas-fired units were approved.
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Warm, still, autumn weather has meant wind farms have not generated as much power as normal, while soaring prices have made it too costly to rely on gas.
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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2021, 04:51:43 PM »
Speaking of new fossil fueled power plants, governor newscum recently and somewhat quietly ordered 5 gas fired power plants to add additional electric capacity to the golden state.  Basically governor recall is acknowledging that "green" energy isn't cutting it and we need to fall back on evil carbon based power.
https://www.powermag.com/california-will-add-gas-fired-units-to-increase-power-supply/

Given that it is California and filled with environmental fruits, nut and flakes, the new plants should get final approval about the time the sun goes supernova.

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« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2021, 06:08:28 PM »
Speaking of new fossil fueled power plants, governor newscum recently and somewhat quietly ordered 5 gas fired power plants to add additional electric capacity to the golden state.  Basically governor recall is acknowledging that "green" energy isn't cutting it and we need to fall back on evil carbon based power.
https://www.powermag.com/california-will-add-gas-fired-units-to-increase-power-supply/

  https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58469238

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And the article cited by thundley4 says:

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Both the government and National Grid ESO have committed to phasing out coal power completely by 2024 to cut carbon emissions.

So in 3 years they won't even have that!!!!!  I guaren-damn-tee you that the first time the power goes out, especially if it is normal cold weather in the winter, ** there will be hell to pay on these globull warming assholes.

** This assumes that if it is an extreme event the globull warming assholes will be covering their hind ends by saying this is an abnormal event that could not be forseen
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Re: Who Wants To See Carbon Taxes Imposed Worldwide?
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2021, 06:09:16 PM »
Given that it is California and filled with environmental fruits, nut and flakes, the new plants should get final approval about the time the sun goes supernova.

Now that would cause some serious global warming!!!   :-)
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