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Title: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: CG6468 on July 06, 2013, 04:31:01 PM
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6 Disappearing Car Features

Radio knobs are making a comeback, but lots of other features are headed to extinction.

By Alex Taylor III | CNNMoney.com – Wed, Jul 3, 2013 3:01 PM EDT

Recently, Ford (F) made a surprising announcement: It is adding radio knobs to its hi-tech component control system MyFord Touch. That's a retreat from cutting-edge to old technology -- a man-bites-dog scenario you don't often see in the auto business. And don't expect to see it any more often in the future.

Here's the background: In attempting to reduce driver distraction and get a jump on competitors, Ford had introduced a voice- and touch-screen system for audio, navigation, and other functions. But drivers found the new system confusing, and Consumer Reports issued a withering report on its functionality. So Ford decided to listen to popular concern and go backwards: It will now make it possible to control volume and frequency with the twist of a knob. "Familiar and easy-to-use knobs are exceptionally good ways for drivers to control in-car entertainment systems," says Kelley Blue Books' Jack Nerad. "They make for less distraction and less frustration, and that translates into more convenience and improved safety."

What's next? Are we going to see a return to ribbon speedometers, hub-mounted transmission buttons, or three-on-a-tree gear shifters? Not likely. In fact, the industry is moving in a different direction; many of the features that drivers of a certain age find familiar are dying out or already dead. Here's a partial list:

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Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: obumazombie on July 06, 2013, 04:48:36 PM
Unfortunately without it improvement is impossible. But fortunately, some things can't be improved.
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: RobJohnson on July 06, 2013, 06:33:16 PM
I remember when ashtrays became an option known as the "smoker's package."

That was around 2000ish
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: freedumb2003b on July 06, 2013, 06:41:59 PM
I really prefer having a standard transmission.  It looks like I'll have to buy my next car in Mexico where most of them are still manuals.

What I really wish is that auto makers would standardize on things like location of lights, wipers, cruise controls, TRUNK LATCHES, GAS CAP LATCHES, etc...

I rent all the time and spend 20 minutes just trying to figure out where everything is.
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: Chris_ on July 06, 2013, 07:03:55 PM
I really prefer having a standard transmission.  It looks like I'll have to buy my next car in Mexico where most of them are still manuals.

What I really wish is that auto makers would standardize on things like location of lights, wipers, cruise controls, TRUNK LATCHES, GAS CAP LATCHES, etc...

I rent all the time and spend 20 minutes just trying to figure out where everything is.
I took a coworker's car to the airport to drop her off (late-model Infiniti G35) and couldn't wait in the drop-off lane because I couldn't find the damn trunk latch on the car.  In my Camry, it's on the left side of the driver's seat on the floor.
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: BattleHymn on July 06, 2013, 07:15:02 PM
Bias ply tires?  Man, they really had to reach to pad that list, didn't they?

I love vent windows, though.  
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: Chris_ on July 06, 2013, 08:11:16 PM
Bias ply tires?  Man, they really had to reach to pad that list, didn't they?

I love vent windows, though.  
Vent windows are awesome.
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: franksolich on July 06, 2013, 08:13:02 PM
What I've always missed is that little button on the floor, driver's side, right-hand side, that one punched with one's foot to brighten or dim the headlights.

I dunno who the idiots were, who did away with that.
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: BattleHymn on July 06, 2013, 08:18:18 PM
What I've always missed is that little button on the floor, driver's side, right-hand side, that one punched with one's foot to brighten or dim the headlights.

I dunno who the idiots were, who did away with that.

I have one of those in my 71 Dodge D100.  I like cathunk-cathunk-ing the high beams on and off, just for the heck of it sometimes.  I love that noise.  All devices should have that sort of tactile feedback.   
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: BattleHymn on July 06, 2013, 08:19:33 PM
Vent windows are awesome.

The one on the driver's side of my B is a little loose- it likes to fold back up at about 30 MPH.  Did yours do this?  I wonder how you adjust the tension?
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: Chris_ on July 06, 2013, 08:44:14 PM
The one on the driver's side of my B is a little loose- it likes to fold back up at about 30 MPH.  Did yours do this?  I wonder how you adjust the tension?
I'm not sure.  My B does it around 50 mph, the Ford does it around 30 as well.
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: BattleHymn on July 06, 2013, 08:48:29 PM
I'm not sure.  My B does it around 50 mph, the Ford does it around 30 as well.

Well after nadining the problem, it looks like there is some sort of tension nut you can adjust by accessing the bottom of the vent window frame, from inside the door.  I've never done this, but I'm going to go try it on my B real fast, and let you know.  I bet your Ford is the same. 

Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: Chris_ on July 06, 2013, 08:49:42 PM
That would help.  I would really like to be able to use them.

Who needs air conditioning?
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: MOKOFACE on July 06, 2013, 08:56:30 PM
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What's next? Are we going to see a return to ribbon speedometers, hub-mounted transmission buttons, or three-on-a-tree gear shifters

Alpha Mare just drug home a T-bird with a swing away , fat man steering wheel . Just doing a mental count on the morbidly obese @ the grocery tonight , I suspect that those would be VERY popular NOW .

 And those hydraulic windshield wipers will flick off a cat like a dry booger .
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: BattleHymn on July 06, 2013, 09:12:43 PM
That would help.  I would really like to be able to use them.

Who needs air conditioning?

Success!*


There is a spring with a 7/16" bolt under it inside the door, right under the pivot point for the vent window.  I tightened it for some tension, and it works perfectly now.  It looks like some monkey has been inside of my door before, because the pozi-drive screws that hold the door pull on were completely stripped.  Good thing I've got a parts car, because they wouldn't make it back in.  I had to use a torx bit to get them out.


*Now all I have to do is get spousal unit to fish the socket out from the door, since it fell off the extension, and I can't reach it.



Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: BattleHymn on July 06, 2013, 09:14:16 PM
And those hydraulic windshield wipers will flick off a cat like a dry booger .

Perhaps a nice sister to this list would be things we are glad are gone.  My list:

-Vacuum powered anything, in particular wipers, followed closely by headlights.

Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: Chris_ on July 06, 2013, 09:16:21 PM
You don't have one of those spring-loaded claws with the light on the end?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Mayhew-CatsPaw-Lighted-Claw-Pick-Up-Tool-45046/203761855#.UdjP91e-pmM
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: Dblhaul on July 06, 2013, 10:02:51 PM
wing windows were the best!
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: ColonelCarrots on July 06, 2013, 10:18:34 PM
Cassette players? Anyone? Anyone miss their Def Leppard cassettes?
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: BattleHymn on July 06, 2013, 10:25:32 PM
You don't have one of those spring-loaded claws with the light on the end?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Mayhew-CatsPaw-Lighted-Claw-Pick-Up-Tool-45046/203761855#.UdjP91e-pmM

Yeah, but I can't get it down where the socket is.  If I had my telescoping magnet, I could reach it, but I ran it over a few weeks ago, and it won't telescope anymore.  :hammer:
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: Chris_ on July 06, 2013, 10:46:33 PM
Cassette players? Anyone? Anyone miss their Def Leppard cassettes?
Not really.
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: obumazombie on July 07, 2013, 12:59:24 AM
Not really.
8 tracks maybe ?
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: ColonelCarrots on July 07, 2013, 07:37:42 AM
Not really.
You had a gramophone in your car?
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: Undies on July 07, 2013, 08:37:55 AM
What I've always missed is that little button on the floor, driver's side, right-hand side, that one punched with one's foot to brighten or dim the headlights.

I dunno who the idiots were, who did away with that.

Me too.  And bench seats.
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: CG6468 on July 07, 2013, 08:44:49 AM
What I've always missed is that little button on the floor, driver's side, right-hand side, that one punched with one's foot to brighten or dim the headlights.

I dunno who the idiots were, who did away with that.

When that foot switch rarely wore out, it could be EASILY replaced. Now it's in the steering column as part of the multi-function switch - $$$$$$$$$$$
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: obumazombie on July 07, 2013, 12:28:10 PM
Me too.  And bench seats.
Front or back ?
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: BattleHymn on July 07, 2013, 12:45:40 PM
Front or back ?

Both.

I loved the dual bench seats I had in my 1966 Toronado.  Between the bench seats and the completely flat floors, It could sleep four comfortably:

(http://americanmusclecar.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/toro-66-interior.jpg)
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: obumazombie on July 07, 2013, 12:47:50 PM
Both.

I loved the dual bench seats I had in my 1966 Toronado.  Between the bench seats and the completely flat floors, It could sleep four comfortably:

(http://americanmusclecar.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/toro-66-interior.jpg)
Phew...for a minute there I was thinking I might have to accuse you of being a bench seat REARIST.
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: biersmythe on July 07, 2013, 08:52:41 PM
I'm not sure.  My B does it around 50 mph, the Ford does it around 30 as well.

The VW vent window whistles if you are in a forward motion.  :lmao: The seals are totally gone.
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: Chris_ on July 07, 2013, 09:23:18 PM
The VW vent window whistles if you are in a forward motion.  :lmao: The seals are totally gone.
The door seals on the Fairlane are completely shot.  I'm surprised the doors stayed in place between Crane Hill and Columbia.

That is a priority on my list. 
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: biersmythe on July 07, 2013, 09:52:42 PM
Yea there is a guy on eBay that has a great VW shop. He sells everything for the old rabbit's, Jetta's etc. Its getting easier if you have a popular old car these days to find parts. I remember trying to find parts in the early 90's for my 68 Firebird was almost impossible.
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: Chris_ on July 07, 2013, 10:06:19 PM
Yea there is a guy on eBay that has a great VW shop. He sells everything for the old rabbit's, Jetta's etc. Its getting easier if you have a popular old car these days to find parts. I remember trying to find parts in the early 90's for my 68 Firebird was almost impossible.
Really?  I'd think that with all the vendors, getting parts for GM cars would be easy.  Between Year One, Original Parts Group, and everybody else, you could probably build one from scratch.
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: biersmythe on July 07, 2013, 10:51:36 PM
Oh now a days I can buy a new uni-body for a 68 for about 13k new sheet metal delivered to the closest dock classicindustries.com...but back then Pontiac parts were used or dealer or Paddock and they were more expensive than the dealer. The shop I worked for back then would buy up parts for old GTO's and tempest and firebirds from the stealerships. Stuff like the tri power pcv grommets....wheel center caps etc...buy all they had. The guy I worked for restored these cars and did show cars. Makes a difference in a show contest if you have all the original parts and not reproductions...He made bank off those parts.
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: CG6468 on July 08, 2013, 08:45:53 AM
Really?  I'd think that with all the vendors, getting parts for GM cars would be easy.  Between Year One, Original Parts Group, and everybody else, you could probably build one from scratch.

But remember - blammo had all the older cars crushed for recycling.
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 08, 2013, 09:54:12 AM
But remember - blammo had all the older cars crushed for recycling.

Hey, his communist buddies in China needed the steel.
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: CG6468 on July 08, 2013, 10:43:05 AM
Hey, his communist buddies in China needed the steel.

And he needed them out of the country so no parts for "non-'green'" vehicles were available. His electric cars will solve all of our problems, including towing campers and trailers!  ::)
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: NHSparky on July 08, 2013, 10:58:32 AM
I get the feeling that CD players are on their way out.

I had the Jeep for five years and never ONCE used it.  Still haven't used the one in the truck.  I have Sirius/XM, and when the six month trial is up, I've got Pandora that'll play through the Bluetooth.
Title: Re: 6 Disappearing Car Features
Post by: CG6468 on July 08, 2013, 11:24:17 AM
I get the feeling that CD players are on their way out.

I had the Jeep for five years and never ONCE used it.  Still haven't used the one in the truck.  I have Sirius/XM, and when the six month trial is up, I've got Pandora that'll play through the Bluetooth.

I put everything on a thumb drive and can go all day without changing anything.