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Watertown police chief Edward Deveau said Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the 19-year-old suspected Boston Marathon bomber who was captured alive on Friday, killed his older brother Tamerlan by driving over him and dragging his body through the street with a carjacked SUV Thursday night.

Deveau, in an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer on Saturday, said police officers were handcuffing Tamerlan, who had run out of ammunition, when Dzhokhar came at them in a carjacked SUV. Watertown officers were able to get out of the way.

The brothers were armed with pipe bombs, firearms, and explosives and had been in a firefight with officers on Thursday night after they reportedly "assassinated" an MIT police officer. Deveau said a pressure cooker bomb also went off during the firefight, causing a major explosion. The brothers threw explosives at the officers.

Dzhokhar eventually abandoned the SUV, fleeing on foot. He hid in a land-docked boat in a Watertown neighborhood, where law enforcement found him Friday evening.

According to Deveau, a person who had gone out for a walk and noticed a trail of blood leading to the boat called authorities....

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ... http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/20/Watertown-Police-Chief-Dzhokhar-Killed-Brother-by-Running-Over-Him-Fired-at-Officers-from-Boat
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But they were angels according to the dad.  ::)
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The older brother was uninjured enough to be cuffed?

This is the third time this year we've heard of cops getting in major gun battles and not seriously wounding -- sometimes not hitting! -- their target. The heat of battle and all that, but these guys are pros, and none of them can deal a fatal shot?

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But they were angels according to the dad.  ::)

Mooselimb angels about the work of the Mooselimb concept of God.

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The older brother was uninjured enough to be cuffed?

This is the third time this year we've heard of cops getting in major gun battles and not seriously wounding -- sometimes not hitting! -- their target. The heat of battle and all that, but these guys are pros, and none of them can deal a fatal shot?

Have you ever had someone shoot or throw pipe bombs at you, dumb ass??

I would like to see every policeman carry automatic weapons with a 30 round clip in their vehicle and use them in situations where no one else could be injured by stray bullets. In that case, the fuzz could call the coroner. No handcuffs needed.

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Wait a minute.  I read where he was so full of bullets the doctors quit counting.  You mean to tell me not one of their bullets was a bull's eye?
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Your insult was far more meaningful than your post. I'm obviously not the first to make this assessment, considering your reputation rating. But, let's move past that and back to the topic:

Here's the first case to which I was referring:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/07/16888732-women-shot-by-cops-were-just-delivering-papers?lite

I cannot find the exact count now, but the LAPD fired off over 100 rounds at the two women they mistook for Christopher Dorner. They hit neighboring houses and trees, struck the stationary vehicle about 30% of the time. The women were unarmed.

This is the second: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/26/nyregion/bystanders-shooting-wounds-caused-by-the-police.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

The NYC cops emptied their guns at a man who had just shot a co-worker. The man pulled his weapon, and the cops opened fire. They shot nine by-standers.

By the way, I am not alone on this discussion board in my questioning of the cops ability to hit their targets. Shall I give you the link to the other "dumb asses"?


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Some are saying that this has been 'de-bunked' but I'm not sure What has been de-bunked?

The video interview is here (below) and the Police Chief's explanation starts at 8:32

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/20/justice/massachusetts-bombers-accomplices/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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Dragged down the street? Thats rough.

I'm not surprised the brother spread some more of that jihadi love. /s Muzzles usually have this martyrdom pact not to let the other be taken alive. Looks like the angel gunned for him as soon as he saw bro in custody.


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I cannot find the exact count now, but the LAPD fired off over 100 rounds at the two women they mistook for Christopher Dorner. They hit neighboring houses and trees, struck the stationary vehicle about 30% of the time. The women were unarmed.

From experience...rounds coming at you while you're firing rounds at someone...will make even the best of shooters miss.

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I did call the police in the city of Kingston, NY once to dispatch a rabid raccoon that had made its way into a fenced area of my workplace. They showed up and emptied their 9mm pistol at a distance of 5' about 14 rounds I think and failed to kill the coon! They did slow it down though so I had to go wack it with a tire iron! Just sayin. 
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I did call the police in the city of Kingston, NY once to dispatch a rabid raccoon that had made its way into a fenced area of my workplace. They showed up and emptied their 9mm pistol at a distance of 5' about 14 rounds I think and failed to kill the coon! They did slow it down though so I had to go wack it with a tire iron! Just sayin. 

Had a great, great grandmother that died before I was born. The old folks used to talk of her. They said she carried a .38 in her apron and could hit a mad dog on the run. She was a regular Annie Oakley with her .38. I guess some folks are just naturals with a weapon.
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I did call the police in the city of Kingston, NY once to dispatch a rabid raccoon that had made its way into a fenced area of my workplace. They showed up and emptied their 9mm pistol at a distance of 5' about 14 rounds I think and failed to kill the coon! They did slow it down though so I had to go wack it with a tire iron! Just sayin.  

Maybe the raccoon was doing the Watusi instead of sitting up on it's hind legs saying, "shoot me, shoot me".
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From experience...rounds coming at you while you're firing rounds at someone...will make even the best of shooters miss.

Real life isn't some Dirty Harry movie.


Not according to some of the TiTs here.    These cops were having bombs/grenades thrown at them.   

 

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Wait a minute.  I read where he was so full of bullets the doctors quit counting.  You mean to tell me not one of their bullets was a bull's eye?
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That came directly from the doctor that worked on him.   They were cuffing him dead or alive.   


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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-boston-bombings-watertown-20130421,0,7458478.story

This chief is all over the news giving interviews which are conflicting.  He seems to be taking credit for the capture also, when Watertown police were most likely no where near the house when it all went down.


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Your insult was far more meaningful than your post. I'm obviously not the first to make this assessment, considering your reputation rating. But, let's move past that and back to the topic:

You did not answer my question. Have you ever had someone shoot at you? I have in the Army. Crickets, crickets.

I would not brag about a 8 negative to 1 positive post. Plus, I am a staunch conservative who does not like liberals or RINOs and will dump on their case in a heartbeat. BTW, grow some balls, and quote what I said the next time, noob.

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Just went looking for any credible article on cause of death and there is none as the ME has not issued anything yet.   Huffington post has one article from a Boston Globe contributor who was in ER when he was brought in and that is it. 

He was in cardiac arrest (meaning quite dead) when he was brought in.  They worked on him 15 minutes and called it.  Period, the end.




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The older brother was uninjured enough to be cuffed?

This is the third time this year we've heard of cops getting in major gun battles and not seriously wounding -- sometimes not hitting! -- their target. The heat of battle and all that, but these guys are pros, and none of them can deal a fatal shot?

I remembered this in my gun class, that many of the current  PO's are terrible shots, according to our NRA instructors. They are not practicing enough as it is, and combine that with adrenaline at the scene.
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I am a staunch conservative who does not like liberals or RINOs and will dump on their case in a heartbeat. BTW, grow some balls, and quote what I said the next time, noob.

I see. So, according to you, even though what I said is fully in line with many long-time members of this forum and fully documented with references to news stories, I am either a liberal or a RINO with no balls.

Got it. I read you quite clearly.


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I see. So, according to you, even though what I said is fully in line with many long-time members of this forum and fully documented with references to news stories,

Link?  You said you would.  Still waiting.


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I'm going with the first one for now.




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A doctor involved in treating the Boston Marathon bombing suspect who died in a gunbattle with police says he had injuries head to toe and all limbs intact when he arrived at the hospital.

Dr. David Schoenfeld said 26-year-old Tamerlan Tsarnaev was unconscious and had so many penetrating wounds when he arrived at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center early Friday that it isn't clear which ones killed him, and a medical examiner will have to determine the cause of death.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/20/Doctor--Dead-bomb-suspect-had-wounds-head-to-toe

Just sayin...
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Link?  

Link???!!! Scroll up two posts. Good lord, man -- are you blind?

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Link???!!! Scroll up two posts. Good lord, man -- are you blind?

Scrolled all the way to the top of the page n00b.

Nothing I've seen backed up what you said here:

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By the way, I am not alone on this discussion board in my questioning of the cops ability to hit their targets. Shall I give you the link to the other "dumb asses"?

Still waiting n00b
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Dzhokhar Killed Brother by Running over Him....must have taken "drivers ed" in government public school.
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