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This is interesting.  I found this on the Daily Caller site, and it's got a video there.  

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U.S. Navy creates ‘game-changing’ jet fuel from seawater [VIDEO]

Giuseppe Macri    5:59 PM 04/07/2014

The U.S. Navy has developed a new process for generating jet fuel out of ordinary seawater — thanks to technology that could be widely deployed in as little as a decade.

Described as a “game-changer” by officials, the new process extracts carbon dioxide and produces hydrogen gas from seawater, and transforms it into a liquid hydrocarbon fuel thats already been successfully tested in an unmodified two-stroke internal combustion engine.

That means none of the ships making up the Navy’s full fleet will need to be retrofitted or updated to use the fuel.

The Naval Research Laboratory began the project in 2011 and reports it could be commercially viable within seven to 10 years at a stable production cost between $3-6 dollars per gallon.

Without the fluctuating cost of oil prices and shortages or the time-consuming refueling process of meeting oil tankers, Navy ships equipped with the tech could join the nuclear-fueled aircraft carriers and submarines that stay deployed for years at a time.

OPEC?  What's that? O-) :whistling:

The rest, along with the video, is here:

http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/07/u-s-navy-creates-game-changing-jet-fuel-from-seawater-video/
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Re: U.S. Navy creates ‘game-changing’ jet fuel from seawater
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2014, 04:53:04 AM »
Oh my. They're going to use CO2? We're going to freeze to death without CO2 in the atmosphere......[DUmmie panic mode]
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Re: U.S. Navy creates ‘game-changing’ jet fuel from seawater
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2014, 07:30:15 AM »
Oh my. They're going to use CO2? We're going to freeze to death without CO2 in the atmosphere......[DUmmie panic mode]

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Re: U.S. Navy creates ‘game-changing’ jet fuel from seawater
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2014, 08:13:18 AM »
Things that sound too good to be true usually are.  The quoted part of the story says ships wouldn't need to be retrofitted to burn it, not make it.  Two things strike me about the method, one is that getting enough dissolved CO2 out of the seawater to do this would require processing very large amounts of seawater for each gallon make, and that doing anything chemically with CO2 normally requires huge energy inputs, on a scale that only the reactors in the carriers could be used for practically.

I'm pretty skeptical, of course it'd still be cheaper than the $50+ per gallon actual cost for biofuel that the Navy is currently being forced to buy and use in large quantities in order to support political causes, donors, and bundlers.
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Re: U.S. Navy creates ‘game-changing’ jet fuel from seawater
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2014, 11:55:28 AM »
Things that sound too good to be true usually are.  The quoted part of the story says ships wouldn't need to be retrofitted to burn it, not make it.  Two things strike me about the method, one is that getting enough dissolved CO2 out of the seawater to do this would require processing very large amounts of seawater for each gallon make, and that doing anything chemically with CO2 normally requires huge energy inputs, on a scale that only the reactors in the carriers could be used for practically.

I'm pretty skeptical, of course it'd still be cheaper than the $50+ per gallon actual cost for biofuel that the Navy is currently being forced to buy and use in large quantities in order to support political causes, donors, and bundlers.

That's why I would think that the Ford-class CVNs would be retrofitted to do this.  If it only cost $30 a gallon, it would be a shitload cheaper than that damned biofuel.
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Re: U.S. Navy creates ‘game-changing’ jet fuel from seawater
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2014, 10:17:10 AM »
That's why I would think that the Ford-class CVNs would be retrofitted to do this.  If it only cost $30 a gallon, it would be a shitload cheaper than that damned biofuel.
Government subsidizing the biofuel industry and giving DUmmies a chance to rant against higher food prices, the military budget and military industrial complex all at the same time......what a great democrat plan. Feed those soybeans to cows and pigs, we'll get more out of them.
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Re: U.S. Navy creates ‘game-changing’ jet fuel from seawater
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2014, 11:06:06 AM »
...what a great democrat plan. Feed those soybeans to cows and pigs, we'll get more out of them.

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