Spitzer Wanted Sex Without Condoms, Mandatory 5-Year Sentence, READ WIRETAPS

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Dems Will Win (1000+ posts)       Tue Mar-11-08 01:58 PM
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Spitzer Wanted Sex Without Condoms, Mandatory 5-Year Sentence, READ WIRETAPS
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Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 02:06 PM by Dems Will Win
Disclosure: I have despised Eliot Spitzer since he stabbed my community in the back last year and approved not only a meg-resort in the Catskills but also casinos. Good riddance to bad rubbish! He will get 5 years MANDATORY in the federal pen for transporting a prostitute across state lines. No way out of the 5-year sentence either. No way.

Here are the Spitzer wiretaps so you can read for yourself how a Democratic sex addict can become a nightmare for the party:

19. Id. at 8, 21. Ms. Lewinsky testified that she had an orgasm. Id. at 8.

25. Id. at 17. After the sexual encounter, she saw the President masturbate in the bathroom near the sink. Id. at 18.

28. Id. at 19. They engaged in oral-anal contact as well. See Lewinsky 8/26/98 Depo. at 18-20.

29. Id. at 21-22. This was shortly after their first phone sex encounter, which occurred on January 16, 1996. Id. at 22; Lewinsky 7/30/98 Int. at 9. Phone sex occurs when one or both parties masturbate while one or both parties talk in a sexually explicit manner on the telephone.

31. Id. at 26. As Ms. Lewinsky departed, she observed the President "manually stimulating" himself in Ms. Hernreich's office. Id. at 27.

34. Id. at 30-31. Ms. Lewinsky testified that she had an orgasm. Id.

35. Id. at 30-32. They engaged in oral-anal contact as well. See Lewinsky 8/26/98 Depo. at 29-33.

37. Id. at 37-38. The President then put the cigar in his mouth and said to Ms. Lewinsky: "it tastes good." Lewinsky 7/30/98 Int. at 12-13; see also Lewinsky Depo. at 38.

40. Id. at 45-49. They had engaged in phone sex a number of times in the interim, according to Ms. Lewinsky. Lewinsky 7/30/98 Int. at 14-15.

41. Lewinsky 8/26/98 Depo. at 47. On this occasion, the President ejaculated. Id.

42. FBI Lab Report, Lab Nos. 980730002SBO and 980803100SBO, 8/17/98.

43. Lewinsky 8/26/98 Depo. at 49-51.

44. Ms. Lewinsky testified that she had multiple orgasms. Id. at 50.

45. Id. at 50-51; Lewinsky 8/6/98 GJ at 21. On this occasion, the President ejaculated. Lewinsky 8/26/98 Depo. at 50-51.

http://www.ibiblio.org/report/7grounds.htm#N_37_


Oh wait sorry, wrong sex addict. Here you go, the Spitzer wiretaps:

. Mrs. Jones, on May 8th, 1991, you went to a room in the Excelsior Hotel where you met Governor Clinton; is that correct?

...

Q. How long would you say you looked at the penis?

A. Five seconds.

Q. Did he have his hands on it?

A. Yes.

Q. Did you ever see him without his hands on it?

...

A. Yeah. I saw it. Because when he pulled his pants down, I saw it without his hands on it and I saw what it looked like.

Q. And then his – one or two hands were on it?

A. Yeah. Because he pulled his pants down with both hands and when he sat back, I mean, it's there and then he starts putting his hands all over it.

Q. All right. And what was he doing?

A. He was fondling himself.

Q. Did he have an erection?

A. Yes, he did.

...

Q. What did you do as soon as you saw that?

A. I jumped up and I said, "I'm not that kind of girl," after I looked at it and he was trying to grab me. But, I mean, I went on ahead and jumped up and I turned around and that's when I – that's the thing I drew there from this perspective of standing up, looking down on the couch at him.

Q. So you didn't see it before you stood up?

A. Yes. I looked at it. It was pointing my direction. But when I stood up, it was pointed to the left.

...

A. Oh, no. I started to leave. And he pulled up and I was fixing to go out and I said, "I've got to be going. I've got to go back to the registration desk. I'm going to get in trouble." He pulled up, you know, stood up. And he was just red as he could be. You could tell I had embarrassed him so bad, because he probably expected me to do something. And he pulled up his pants, trying to situate himself. And I don't think he tucked in his pants. He just pulled them up and zipped his pants up, still with an erect penis.

And he said, "Well, you know, if you have any trouble, I want you to have Dave Herrington call me immediately." And that was the second time he had mentioned Dave Herrington. And then I proceeded to go on to the door and he rushed up behind me. I started to open up the door, he put his hand on the door to where I could not open it up any further, and he stopped me and he says, "You're a smart girl, let's keep this between ourselves." And when I went out the door, the state trooper was there, which is Trooper Ferguson. And he was standing out there.

Q. Are you saying that the governor did not let you go out the door?

A. Not for a split second, yeah. He confined me for a moment to let me know that I'm a smart girl and let's just keep this between ourselves.

Q. And the governor had his hand on –

A. On the door. When I opened the door, he stopped it, the back of the door, long enough to let me know what he wanted to tell me.



Hold on, that's not it either, I've got it somewhere, this must be it:


LISA BELZBERG


Clinton linked with wealthy socialite


THE tangled love life of Bill Clinton was again under the microscope yesterday when he was romantically linked with a glamorous blonde.

A magazine photo showed the former president of the United States in an intimate pose with the Canadian socialite Lisa Belzberg, 38.

They were photographed by Newsweek in front of a refrigerator at her mansion in Katonah, New York. It rekindled long-standing speculation about the pair, who have been spotted together at a number of functions over the past year.

According to the New York Post, Ms Belzberg, a millionairess separated from her husband, the Seagram alcohol heir Matthew Bronfman, about a month ago following a liaison with Mr Clinton.

...

"Friends were stunned to see the photo of Clinton in front of Lisa’s stainless steel Sub-Zero refrigerator with Jonathan Alter’s cover story on the ex-president," the paper reported. The article claimed Mr Clinton and Ms Belzberg were involved in an encounter last month.

"She was seen flirting with Clinton at the Super Bowl party he hosted in his Harlem offices," it added. At the time Mr Clinton joked of his relationship with Ms Belzberg: "She married a guy worth $6 billion, but she still likes to flirt with me."

A spokeswoman for Ms Belzberg, who runs the educational organisation PENCIL , insisted that she has not been involved in another relationship since her split from Mr Bronfman. "There is no-one else," she said bluntly.

http://news.scotsman.com/billclinton/Clinton-linked-wit...

According to 6/12/02 Page Six of the New York Post: WHATEVER there was between Lisa Belzberg and Bill Clinton, it appears to be over. Belzberg, the brainy blonde behind the PENCIL nonprofit group that helps the public school system, was rumored to be more than friends with the former president, who lives just 10 minutes away from the mother of two in Westchester. "She's heartbroken," said one source. But there is little chance of reconciliation with her husband, Matthew Bronfman. The Seagram heir, who split with Lisa in February, is said to be very happily dating a fashion industry executive, Stacy Kaye.

Inside Politics 6/13/02: "The New York Post reported yesterday that the relationship between former President Bill Clinton and Lisa Belzberg 'appears to be over.' If we do the math, that means that Mr. Clinton and the pretty blonde socialite lasted seven weeks. "Tabloid rumors of a romance between the two appeared around April 23, claiming the pair met at a Christmas party last year. Mr. Clinton behaved like 'a big old hound dog' and later, trysts reportedly took place in mid-afternoons on the 24th floor of New York's chichi Hudson Hotel."



Clinton seen with new blonde


Mark Coleman In New York

BILL Clinton’s chequered love life became the source of fresh speculation yesterday after he was spotted with yet another blonde.

The former US president is reported to have shared an intimate dinner with Belinda Stronach, a married business woman.

According to reports, Mr Clinton, 56, wined and dined Ms Stronach, 35, the head of an international car parts company, in Toronto.

The pair have apparently struck up a cosy friendship and were caught embracing at the end of the evening.

"Clinton gave her a peck on the cheek before she got into her car," the New York Post reported. Another tabloid, the Daily News, pronounced that the two "had dinner and were seen embracing before they parted".

The papers said that the couple appeared to be fairly close, exchanging fond glances as they walked around the city.

Mr Clinton, who was in Toronto for a party honouring the musician Ronnie Hawkins, who has been diagnosed with cancer, twitched awkwardly with his mobile phone after realising that he and Ms Stronach, who was wearing a black dress and diamond necklace, were being followed by photographers.

The revelations are bound to renew consternation between Mr Clinton and his wife Hillary, to whom he has been married for 26 years.

Four months ago Mr Clinton was linked with another blonde socialite, Lisa Belzberg, 38, who is also a Canadian.

http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=173&id=10366820...


Sorry, that wasn't it either. I think if I hit Control-V here, we'll get the Spitzer wiretaps:

78. At approximately 3 : 2 0 p.m., TEMEKA RACHELLE LEWIS,
a/k/a "Rachelle," the defendant, using the 6587 Number, received
a call from Client-9. During the call, LEWIS told Client-9 that
they were still trying to determine if his deposit had arrived.
Client-9 told LEWIS that he had made a re'servation at the hotel,
and had paid for it in his name. Client-9 said that there would
be a key waiting for her, and told LEWIS that what he had on
account with her covered the "transportation" (believed to be a
reference to the cost of the trainfare for "Kristen" from New
York to Washington, D.C.). LEWIS said that she would try to make
it work. (Call 9636R). At approximately 3:24 p.m., LEWIS, using
the 6587 Number, called CECIL SUWAL, a/k/a "Katie," a/k/a "Kate,"
the defendant, at the 3390 Number. LEWIS explained to SUWAL what
Client-9 had proposed. SUWAL told LEWIS she would call her back.
(Call 9642R) . At approximately 3 : 53 p.m., MARK BRENER, a/k/a
"Michael," the defendant, using the 0937 Number, called LEWIS at
the 6587 Number. BRENER and LEWIS discussed the problem about
Client-9's deposit. (Call 9654R). At approximately 4:18 p.m.,
SUWAL, using the 3390 Number, sent a text message to LEWIS at the
6587 Number, stating: "hotel." (Call 9659R) .

79. At approximately 4:21 p.m., TEMEKA RACHELLE LEWIS,
a/k/a "Rachelle, " the defendant, using the 6587 Number, called
"Kri~ten.~Du ring the call, LEWIS told "Kristen" that the
package had arrived, and that "theyu (believed to be a reference
to MARK BRENER, a/k/a "Michael," and CECIL SUWAL, a/k/a "Katie,"
a/k/a "Kate," the defendants) just got the mail. LEWIS told
"Kristen" to get to Penn Station and call her when she picked up
her tickets. (Call 9661R) . At approximately 4 :48 p.m., LEWIS
sent a text message to "Kristen," stating: "TRAIN INFO Departing
from Penn St. Arriving 8 Union St. Washington, DC NYC to DC Train
# 129 Dep. 5:39pm Arr. 9pm." (Call 9G79R). At approximately
4:54 p.m., LEWIS sent another text message to "KristenItts tating:
"TRAIN INFO Return trip DC to NYC Train #84 Dep. 2/14 8:35pm Arr.
ll:57am." (Call 9683R).

...

82. At approximately 8:47 p.m., TEMEKA RACHELLE LEWIS,
a/k/a "Rachelle," the defendant, using the 6587 Number, received
a call from Client-9. During the call, Client-9 told LEWIS to
tell "Kristen" to go to the hotel and go to room 871. Client-9
told LEWIS that the door would be open. Client-9 told LEWIS that
there would be a key in the room, but the door would be ajar.
LEWIS asked if the hotel staff might pass by the door and close
it, and Client-9 said no it was okay. Client-9 explained that
the door would not be visibly open, but if someone pushed it, the 4
door would open. LEWIS told Client-9 that his balance was
$2,721.41, and that if he wanted to do an additional "150OU or
even "2000" it would be better. Client-9 said that he did not
know if he could get to a machine to do that, but he would see.
LEWIS said that 'Kristen" would go directly to room ,871. Client-
9 asked LEWIS to remind- him what 'Kristen" looked like, and LEWIS
said that she was an American, petite, very pretty brunette, 5
feet 5 inches, and 105 pounds. Client-9 said that she should go
straight to 871, and if for any reason it did not work out, she
should call LEWIS. (Call 9731) .

83. At approximately 9 : 3 2 p.m., TEMEKA RACHELLE LEWIS,
a/k/a "Rachelle," the defendant, using the 6587 Number, received
a call from "Kristen." During the call, '"Kristen" said that she
was in the room. LEWIS told "Kristen" that she would call her
back when she knew when Client-9 would be there. (Call 9734R).
84. At approximately 9:36 p.m., TEMEKA RACHELLE LEWIS,
a/k/a 'Rachelle," the defendant, using the 6587 Number, received
a call from "Kristen." During the call, LEWIS told "Kristen"
that "he," a reference to Client-9, was at the hotel. "Kristen"
told LEWIS that she just talked to him. 'Kristen" said that
Client-9 was coming'to her. LEWIS told "Kristen" that Client-9
should be giving her "extra," and that the extra should be
deposited into- LEWIS told "Kristen" to text her when he
arrived and LEWIS would start the four hours then, and also to
let her know if he left early. (Call 9741R).

85. On February 14, 2008, at approximately 12:02 a.m.,
TEMEKA RACHELLE LEWIS, a/k/a "Rachelle," the defendant, received
a call from "Kristen." During the call, "Kristen" told LEWIS ,
that "he," a reference to Client-9, had left. LEWIS asked
"Kristen" what time he got there, and "Kristen" said "15 after .
. . maybe 10." LEWIS asked "Kristen" how she thought the
appointment went, and "Kristen" said that she thought it went
very well. LEWIS asked "Kristen" how much she collected, and
'Kristen" said $4,300. "Kristen" said that she liked him, and
that she did not think he was difficult. "Kristen" stated: 'I
don't think he's difficult. I mean it's just kind of like . . .
whatever. . . I'm here for a purpose. I know what my purpose is.
I am not a . . . moron, you know what I mean. So maybe that's
why girls maybe think they're difficult . . . . " "Kristen"
continued: "That's what it is, because you're here for a
. Let's not get it twisted - I know what I do, you
know." LEWIS responded: "You look at it very uniquely, because .
. . no one .ever says it that way." LEWIS continued that from
what she had been told "he" (believed to be a reference to
Client-9) "would ask you to do things that, like, you might not
think were safe - you know - I mean that . . . very basic things.
. . . "Kristen" responded: "I have a way of dealing with that .
. . I'd be like listen dude, you really want the sex? . . . You
know what I mean." Near the end of the call, LEWIS and "Kristen"
discussed "Kristen's" departure via Amtrak, the room that Client9
had provided for "Kristen," and "Kristen's" share of the cash
that Client-9 had provided to her. (Call 9750R).


Sorry about the mixup there...

By the way, because he transported a prostitute and paid for trainfare across state lines, Spitzer will get a CERTAIN 5 years in the pokey.

Perry Logan  (1000+ posts)         Tue Mar-11-08 01:59 PM
Response to Original message
1. Leave my party. Please. Pretty please?

ha ha

[Lord Undies]

oldcanyonaz  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-11-08 02:00 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. No shit.

Dems Will Win (1000+ posts)       Tue Mar-11-08 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #3
10. How come we can talk about Larry Craig and Mark Foley but not about Bill Clinton
   Isn't that a double standard?

Dems Will Win (1000+ posts)       Tue Mar-11-08 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. I'm trying to save the party from certain doom, but Bill and Hillary could leave if they like
   Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 02:03 PM by Dems Will Win
Take Eliot with them when they go!

eyesroll (1000+ posts)         Tue Mar-11-08 02:00 PM
Response to Original message
2. IF he is charged and IF he is convicted of that offense without plea bargaining.
   Nothing is automatic.
Something like 70% of defendants plea bargain.

Dems Will Win (1000+ posts)       Tue Mar-11-08 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #2
7. It's actually a special law on prostitution rings, there is no plea-bargaining allowed

writes3000 (624 posts)         Tue Mar-11-08 02:00 PM
Response to Original message
4. Is this Really necessary? No. Cheap shots are cheap. n/t

Umbram (362 posts)        Tue Mar-11-08 02:02 PM
Response to Original message
6. I'm sure you had some sort of inane point to make... maybe you should try again. (nt)

amborin (941 posts)        Tue Mar-11-08 02:04 PM
Response to Original message
8. vicious right wing smears, sick, vicious, unacceptable

Bucky  (1000+ posts)         Tue Mar-11-08 02:04 PM
Response to Original message
9. What a slimy little man you are. Obama's change is all about getting rid of parasites like you.
   Go back to Free Republic.

Dems Will Win (1000+ posts)       Tue Mar-11-08 02:07 PM
Response to Reply #9
14. But but this is all official testimony, no Free Republic involved.

ha ha

JackORoses  (1000+ posts)         Tue Mar-11-08 02:06 PM
Response to Original message
11. ouch!

Vinnie From Indy  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-11-08 02:07 PM
Response to Original message
12. If we could only kick around in YOUR closets for a peek!
   Why are you even here?

I pity the folks that have to suffer you on a regular basis.

loindelrio  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-11-08 02:07 PM
Response to Original message
13. You are a real piece of work n/t

OPERATIONMINDCRIME  (1000+ posts)         Tue Mar-11-08 02:08 PM
Response to Original message
15. Gee, I Can't Imagine Why You'd Harbor Bitterness Towards Men Getting Laid.
(photo of Virgin Airline plane)

thewiseguy (199 posts)        Tue Mar-11-08 02:09 PM
Response to Original message
16. Please remove this thread.

ha ha

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5020789

Then the original post is deleted and replaced with:

Dems Will Win (1000+ posts)       Tue Mar-11-08 01:58 PM
Original message
Hilbots can dish it out but can't take it!
   Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 02:10 PM by Dems Will Win
Let you have the Kitchen Sink for 5 minutes. That's what awaits a Hillary vs. McCain Race.

I'll go easy on you and self-delete.

ha ha


   

[mamacags]

Moonbat or not the OP gets a standing ovation from me for that one!

[jukin]

Bad move to "Swift Boat" the clintons.

[Crazy Horse]

 

Priceless 

[Carl]

The REALITY based community sure reacts violently when confronted with it.

[BlueStateSaint]

The REALITY based community sure reacts violently when confronted with it.

And here it is . . .

It Wasn't the Sex; Suspicious $$ Transfers Led to Spitzer
Officials Say Spitzer Is 'Client 9' in a Federal Complaint Against the Prostitution Ring

By BRIAN ROSS
March 10, 2008

The federal investigation of a New York prostitution ring was triggered by Gov. Eliot Spitzer's suspicious money transfers, initially leading agents to believe Spitzer was hiding bribes, according to federal officials.

It was only months later that the IRS and the FBI determined that Spitzer wasn't hiding bribes but payments to a company called QAT, what prosecutors say is a prostitution operation operating under the name of the Emperor's Club.

As recently as this past Valentine's Day, Feb. 13, Spitzer, who officials say is identified in a federal complaint as "Client 9," arranged for a prostitute "Kristen" to meet him in Washington, D.C.

The woman met Client 9 at the Mayflower Hotel, room 871, "for her tryst," according to the complaint. Client 9 also is alleged to have paid for the woman's train tickets, cab fare, mini bar and room service, travel time and hotel.

It goes on here . . .

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4424507&page=1

It's about the money, DUmb****s.

[Flame]

 

Hats off to the OP!  That was great!

[DumbAss Tanker]

Looks like there's been a breach of the reality-antireality containment vessel, Captain!

 

[franksolich]

Why is it that the primitives are trying to draw parallels between the crimes of the Impeached One, and the crimes of the governor of New York?

They're utterly different sorts of crimes, no parallels other than that sex was part of the mix.

[Carl]

Why is it that the primitives are trying to draw parallels between the crimes of the Impeached One, and the crimes of the governor of New York?

They're utterly different sorts of crimes, no parallels other than that sex was part of the mix.

I do believe sir that you have answered your own question.
They are hoping to gloss over again the fact that real crimes (violations of written statutes) occurred.

The most ironic part was that a couple of weeks ago the primitives were in full war dress over a bogus NYT story about Sen.McCain supposedly having an affair.

Now it is the same NYT that broke the story on Gov.Spitzer.