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Folks, there has always been legal wiretapping
« on: March 10, 2008, 03:34:27 PM »
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theboss (1000+ posts)     Mon Mar-10-08 03:46 PM
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Folks, there has always been legal wiretapping
I know that it is the standard DU mindset to think that the world was invented in 2000.

But the fact that Spitzer was caught on a wiretap does not necessarily mean:

1. It was a warrantless wiretap or
2. It was Spitzer's phone.

My guess is, the FBI had a warrant to tap the prostitute's phone and Spitzer called her. Sucks for him.

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This is pure gold.................pure I tell ya  :rotf:

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chimpsrsmarter  (1000+ posts)       Mon Mar-10-08 03:48 PM
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1. i agree, i'm sure they were already witetapping that ring and Spitzer picked the 
 wrong time to make a call.

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WHEN CRABS ROAR (735 posts)      Mon Mar-10-08 03:53 PM
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2. And the FBI has been doing warrantless wiretaps for a very
 long time.


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bryant69  (1000+ posts)       Mon Mar-10-08 03:55 PM
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4. And Warrented Wirtaps? 
 Warrented in the sense that they were issued a Warrant that granted them permission to perform said Wiretaps.

Bryant

 
No dumbass............ :thatsright:

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lonestarnot  (1000+ posts)      Mon Mar-10-08 03:54 PM
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3. Get busted with the equipment and it's a felony... so who cares about that?
  And illegal wire taps are inadmissable as evidence! PU stinky.


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MrCoffee  (1000+ posts)      Mon Mar-10-08 03:57 PM
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5. Shhhh...you're ruining all the fun!
 The FBI had a warrant to tap the escort services' phone.

 
Okay who's mole  :lmao:

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theboss (1000+ posts)     Mon Mar-10-08 04:05 PM
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7. I know, but everyone here is a maniac
 Honestly, if George Bush was tapping Spitzer's phone and found this out....do you think he would prosecuting him?

 
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tom_paine (1000+ posts)       Mon Mar-10-08 04:01 PM
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6. But what we have not had EVER in American History, is a totalitarian
 Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 04:02 PM by tom_paine
cabal which has turned the DOJ into a criminal organization and wing of a single party.

Nevr, except at the local level in the Deep South during Jim Crow has there ever been such a systemic corruption of the Law Enforcement apparatus by criminal elements now RUNNING said law enforcement apparatus.

Amerika is now a small Mississippi Town in the 1930s and the Bushies are the "KKK Sheriff", and we Democrats are the N****rs.

You may be right, boss, but under such circumstances can you not see why we would feel the way we do?


WTF  :mental:

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theboss (1000+ posts)     Mon Mar-10-08 04:06 PM
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8. Because none of you can read the article?
 It was the prostitutions ring's phone that was tapped. Spitzer was Client 9. They later identified him.


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tom_paine (1000+ posts)       Mon Mar-10-08 04:25 PM
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17. If you want me to read an article, perhaps you should link to it?
 The real problem here is the same one ANY totalitarian nations like Amerika is transitioning to, Putin's Russia or Communist China, to name a couple, is the mistrust of pervasively corrupt authority.

Even if I read the article, knowing what I know about the Bushies, the media, and our Empire, I would be remiss if I put on my blinders and said, "The Official Story is True."

Hell, how often has the Official Story been a half-truth or outright fabrication even back before 2000 when America was free?

Even more to the point, of course, is the question of why this will ruin Spitzer while Vitter retains his seat and likely will continue to do so for exactly the same allegations.

This just further cements the similarity of Putin's Russia or Communist China to Amerika 2008.

Putinist/Bushist/Communist Party Official Caught = no trouble, investigation buried, no consequences for official

Opposition Official Caught (sometimes, like Don Seigelman, they don't even have to do anything criminal) = RUINED.

So even IF what you say is true and the Official Bushie Story is true, this is the sickening aspect of totalitarianism that lies just beneath.


What a ****ing IDJIT

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Lone_Star_Dem  (1000+ posts)       Mon Mar-10-08 04:07 PM
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9. I just said in another thread I suspect due to the nature of the investigation it was a legal
 Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 04:08 PM by Lone_Star_Dem
... warranted wiretap. They're not that overly difficult to obtain in such cases. 


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Rex (1000+ posts)      Mon Mar-10-08 04:09 PM
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11. My guess too.
 But it could be a warrantless wiretap, we shall see. They could have heard her talking about someone like him and then checked into his inbound and outbound calls, from home and work. With or without a warrant. They wouldn't need one if he called her from work. They would if he called from home, so the point is valid.


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theboss (1000+ posts)     Mon Mar-10-08 04:12 PM
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13. Not if they were tapping HER phones....
 Everyone indication is that his phones were not tapped. Hers were.

Why can no one grasp this?


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WinkyDink  (1000+ posts)      Mon Mar-10-08 04:11 PM
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12. I'm sure Spitzer is familiar with using wire-taps to crack prostitution rings.
 Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 04:12 PM by WinkyDink
Indeed, maybe the Feds just glommed onto some of his erstwhile info, say, from 2004?


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Re: Folks, there has always been legal wiretapping
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2008, 03:39:09 PM »
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tom_paine (1000+ posts)       Mon Mar-10-08 04:01 PM
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6. But what we have not had EVER in American History, is a totalitarian
 Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 04:02 PM by tom_paine
cabal which has turned the DOJ into a criminal organization and wing of a single party.

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Re: Folks, there has always been legal wiretapping
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2008, 03:39:44 PM »
Yes, that's right Tom Paineintheass. It's just a plantation!!! Now get back to pickin'!!! Who let you on the interwebs anway!!?!?!? :-)
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Re: Folks, there has always been legal wiretapping
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2008, 03:43:08 PM »
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So even IF what you say is true and the Official Bushie Story is true, this is the sickening aspect of totalitarianism that lies just beneath.

Thank God someone FINALLY blamed Bush.  I was afraid I was going to have to go to Kos to get the latest BDS amusement.
 
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Re: Folks, there has always been legal wiretapping
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2008, 04:48:01 PM »
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tom_paine (1000+ posts)       Mon Mar-10-08 04:25 PM
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17. If you want me to read an article, perhaps you should link to it?
 The real problem here is the same one ANY totalitarian nations like Amerika is transitioning to, Putin's Russia or Communist China, to name a couple, is the mistrust of pervasively corrupt authority.

Even if I read the article, knowing what I know about the Bushies, the media, and our Empire, I would be remiss if I put on my blinders and said, "The Official Story is True."

Hell, how often has the Official Story been a half-truth or outright fabrication even back before 2000 when America was free?

Even more to the point, of course, is the question of why this will ruin Spitzer while Vitter retains his seat and likely will continue to do so for exactly the same allegations.

This just further cements the similarity of Putin's Russia or Communist China to Amerika 2008.

Putinist/Bushist/Communist Party Official Caught = no trouble, investigation buried, no consequences for official

Opposition Official Caught (sometimes, like Don Seigelman, they don't even have to do anything criminal) = RUINED.

So even IF what you say is true and the Official Bushie Story is true, this is the sickening aspect of totalitarianism that lies just beneath.

To sum it up......"I am going to believe what I want to believe and am not interested in any facts to the contrary."

Of course these are the superintellectuals of our society. :rotf:
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