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Listen up DU! What is the biggest threat to our democracy?
« on: March 09, 2008, 11:37:00 PM »
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cbayer  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Mar-10-08 12:17 AM
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Listen up DU! What is the biggest threat to our democracy?
   
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Two opinions that are worth a read.

In my mind, the greatest threat to democracy right now is the impulse to confirm for people what they believe rather than challenge their preconceptions or tell them difficult truths. The more uncertain things become the more people tell you what you want to hear. We've left the age of persuasion, we've entered the age of confirmation. People don't listen to a argument and maybe change their mind anymore. They hear an argument and if it is not what they already believe in, they go somewhere else.

I think the greatest threat to democracy is having a public that thinks it is fully informed but is not really very well informed at all. Too often in this digital age we jump right into the debate without having the facts.

Transcribed a few answers from NOW (the PBS show) that I thought were the most pertinent tonight.

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Greatest threat to democracy? Easy answer: liberalism.

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blonndee  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Mar-10-08 12:20 AM
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1. Corporatized, for-profit media
   
Which your post actually seems to support. Do you agree?
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2. Babies are not born with an impulse to conform.
   
That is a wholly learned behavior that corporate interests spend billions of dollars teaching us.

The corporate media is the most pernicious influence on what we call our democracy.
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cbayer  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Mar-10-08 12:26 AM
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6. I don't agree with your premise.
   
I think babies do nothing but conform.

As we grow, we hopefully develop the ability to discriminate and make decisions for ourselves.

The corporate media is expert at over-riding our ability to discriminate. And we should be fearful of their power. But where are we to get our information?
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4. repukes n/t
   
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9. self-importance
   
will be the downfall of the human, regardless.
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12. Apathy as regards corrupt public officials.
   



Bush and Cheney and their minions laugh in our faces over their blatant misuse of power and they just keep committing more crimes because they know no one will stop them.



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12. Apathy as regards corrupt public officials.
   



Bush and Cheney and their minions laugh in our faces over their blatant misuse of power and they just keep committing more crimes because they know no one will stop them.



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Re: Listen up DU! What is the biggest threat to our democracy?
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2008, 12:31:38 AM »
Liberals, Socialist, and Communist follwed by radical Islamic terrorist and rouge countries trying to get the bomb.
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Re: Listen up DU! What is the biggest threat to our democracy?
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2008, 05:12:54 AM »
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Listen up DU! What is the biggest threat to our democracy?
   
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Two opinions that are worth a read.

In my mind, the greatest threat to democracy right now is the impulse to confirm for people what they believe rather than challenge their preconceptions or tell them difficult truths. The more uncertain things become the more people tell you what you want to hear. We've left the age of persuasion, we've entered the age of confirmation. People don't listen to a argument and maybe change their mind anymore. They hear an argument and if it is not what they already believe in, they go somewhere else.

I think the greatest threat to democracy is having a public that thinks it is fully informed but is not really very well informed at all. Too often in this digital age we jump right into the debate without having the facts.

Transcribed a few answers from NOW (the PBS show) that I thought were the most pertinent tonight.

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That someone would post that on DU is rich,you don`t believe exactly what you are supposed to and you are gone.
No chance to persuade or change minds.

I am sure what the op is whining about is that so many in the country reject the primitives ideals of socialism.
What they don`t realize is that rejection of socialism is a natural reaction to the loss of freedom and that is what socialism brings,there is no other possibility.

Some controlling authority would have to make the decisions as to who had enough,too much and not enough.
Since DUmmies all think of socialism as a free ride to wealth and comfort they omit that part form the equation in their wee little minds.

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Re: Listen up DU! What is the biggest threat to our democracy?
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2008, 06:46:46 AM »
Funny how both of those could be applied to DU, or Global Something Change just as easily.
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Re: Listen up DU! What is the biggest threat to our democracy?
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2008, 09:44:58 PM »
So.....the Bayer aspirin primitive just described how the primitives think, and are.
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Re: Listen up DU! What is the biggest threat to our democracy?
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2008, 11:10:27 PM »
Again, not a Democracy, DUmmies.
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