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Offline franksolich

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silly primitive does better
« on: June 18, 2009, 06:57:26 AM »
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Oh my.

This is a reasonably new bonfire, just lit:

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SoCalDem  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-18-09 07:48 AM
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Why should children always "do better" than their parents?

For decades, this has been the mantra of parents, or at least we are all told it has been or should be.

More , more and then even MORE has led us to where we are, at this very moment in time.

Did we "succeed"?

Are our children happier, more well adjusted? Are they "better"?

Better than what?

Us?

Their grandparents?

Their neighbors, whose parents may have had a higher starting point?

The "poor kid" in their class?

Perhaps the "more" they really needed was more of US, more TIME from us, more guidance, more limits, more discipline.

When we look back at what we lost along the way to More, was it worth it? Will they thank us?

Why is "better than" always considered in monetary terms?

In my 60 years on this planet, I have seen many people who were truly happy, and they had NOTHING to be happy about. I've seen young mothers simply ecstatic, just to know that their child's tumor had shrunk, while still knowing that the child would most likely be gone within a year or two. I've also seen people so angry they were about to pop a vein because someone took their parking place.

Is "better than" just a mirage that we all chase? Do we ever "get there"?

If we did, would be recognize it? or would we keep trying for even better?

Just one primitive's seen the bonfire thus far:

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Dappleganger  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jun-18-09 07:52 AM
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1. It has nothing to do with 'things'

I want them to be better educated, make wiser choices and be happier.

I don't want them to go through a lot of the shit we have gone through, and we want them to have more CHOICES than we had (more freedom).

It has nothing to do with material things.

I don't think the bonfire's going to go anywhere.
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Re: silly primitive does better
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2009, 08:02:41 AM »
It will be a short thread.  SoCalDem smoked some dope, had a "profound" and narrow thought, digested the thought all the way through it's stunted mental gut, and then decided to sh*t it out through it's fingertips into the toilet we know as DU.

Unfortunately, the first reply flushed the whole thing. 

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Re: silly primitive does better
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2009, 08:40:53 AM »
OK DUmmie, you've made an excuse for you and your offsprings failures.....now back to munching CHEETO's.
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Re: silly primitive does better
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2009, 09:22:14 AM »
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Dappleganger  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jun-18-09 07:52 AM
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1. It has nothing to do with 'things'

I want them to be better educated, make wiser choices and be happier.

I don't want them to go through a lot of the shit we have gone through, and we want them to have more CHOICES than we had (more freedom).

It has nothing to do with material things.

Anyone else notice this gem of irony?

They want their little'uns to have Choices?  Freedom?  How about the Freedom to be indebted for life for your parents delusional desire to be cared for, in every manner, from the cradle to the grave, in the most inefficient manner possible?  How about the Choice to either give ever increasing amounts of their pay to a government that views every dollar earned as its own, or go to prison for tax evasion?  The Freedom to choose what kind of car they want to buy, or whether they want to have paper or plastic bags, or in what trash can to throw food scraps?

You, DUmmie, would not know what Freedom or Choice is if it hit you upside the head.  When presented with a choice, you would run to the nearest gov't entity and say "what should I do?".  Just STFU, sit down, and hold on while the conservatives show you what freedom is, including freedom to fail.