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Yes, Kyle Rittenhouse Acted in Self-Defense
« on: November 06, 2021, 11:06:49 AM »
Yes, Kyle Rittenhouse Acted in Self-Defense

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I’m no Perry Mason, but if somebody tells you he’s going to kill you, and then he starts chasing you and tries to grab your weapon, he’s not interested in a calm and rational exchange of ideas. It’s safe to assume he intends to do what he just told you he’s going to do.

Kyle Rittenhouse is neither a hero nor a murderer. He’s a kid who got in over his head and defended his own life when things went wrong. If he hadn’t shot those guys, they would’ve killed him. And all the people screaming at him right now would’ve just shrugged, because they only care about human life when it serves their political ends.

I’m sorry those guys are dead, but they shouldn’t have chased down a heavily armed man they had just threatened to kill. If you don’t like it, send your complaints to the Darwin Awards.

Treacher appears to have not noticed that Rittenhouse was also offering first aid to injured people and was trying to put out (literal) fires. That said, Rittenhouse probably was in deeper water than he expected. OTOH, he's being judged by 12 rather than carried by 6, so in the ultimate sense he was prepared.
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Re: Yes, Kyle Rittenhouse Acted in Self-Defense
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2021, 03:17:09 PM »
Yes, Kyle Rittenhouse Acted in Self-Defense

https://jimtreacher.substack.com/p/yes-kyle-rittenhouse-acted-in-self

Treacher appears to have not noticed that Rittenhouse was also offering first aid to injured people and was trying to put out (literal) fires. That said, Rittenhouse probably was in deeper water than he expected. OTOH, he's being judged by 12 rather than carried by 6, so in the ultimate sense he was prepared.

Imagine how much better things would have been if Kenosha had decided to maintain order from the beginning, rather turning the streets over to the mob.

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Re: Yes, Kyle Rittenhouse Acted in Self-Defense
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2021, 04:01:56 PM »
Imagine how much better things would have been if Kenosha had decided to maintain order from the beginning, rather turning the streets over to the mob.

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Re: Yes, Kyle Rittenhouse Acted in Self-Defense
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2021, 04:50:07 PM »
I've always been firmly in the "Rittenhouse acted in self-defense" camp, but the more I learn about the sequence of events, the more I can't help but admire how well he handled himself when faced with a bunch of absolutely psychopathic criminal monsters.
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Re: Yes, Kyle Rittenhouse Acted in Self-Defense
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2021, 04:57:18 PM »
In addition to the 5 felonies he's charged with, there is also one misdemeanor charge of Possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18. He was 17 at the time of the incident.

Then there's this minor infraction:

Failure to comply with an emergency order from State or Local Government.

Kenosha officials imposed an 8 p.m. curfew the night of the shootings. Rittenhouse was still on the streets as midnight approached. The offense is punishable by up to $200 in forfeitures.

Kinda hard for me to believe that he'd be found guilty of any of the felony charges, but I think there is a case to be made for the misdemeanor charge(s).

Let's see what the jury thinks.
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Re: Yes, Kyle Rittenhouse Acted in Self-Defense
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2021, 05:23:49 PM »


Kinda hard for me to believe that he'd be found guilty of any of the felony charges, but I think there is a case to be made for the misdemeanor charge(s).

Let's see what the jury thinks.

Were any other rioters charged that night or any night with violating the curfew? Unless there were the defense could argue that they were piling on charges and malicious persecution. (Hell I think he's a hero.)

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Re: Yes, Kyle Rittenhouse Acted in Self-Defense
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2021, 05:33:12 PM »
Were any other rioters charged that night or any night with violating the curfew? Unless there were the defense could argue that they were piling on charges and malicious persecution. (Hell I think he's a hero.)

Irrelevant. Rioters aren't being charged in this trial -- only Rittenhouse.

My opinion is also irrelevant, but I think if Rittenhouse is guilty of anything it's poor judgment in grabbing a medical bag, a firearm, and trying to save the day. He shouldn't be punished for his poor judgment beyond what he's already been through. When I was his age, I was just trying to figure out where my time card was at work -- certainly not trying to make a difference in my community. He should be admired for that reason, but as we all know, if he was ignorant of the law about his age and firearms, that's no excuse.

Fine him a couple hundred dollars and 80 hours of community service.

Let him learn from his mistake.
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Re: Yes, Kyle Rittenhouse Acted in Self-Defense
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2021, 05:54:05 PM »
In addition to the 5 felonies he's charged with, there is also one misdemeanor charge of Possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18. He was 17 at the time of the incident.

Then there's this minor infraction:

Failure to comply with an emergency order from State or Local Government.

Kenosha officials imposed an 8 p.m. curfew the night of the shootings. Rittenhouse was still on the streets as midnight approached. The offense is punishable by up to $200 in forfeitures.

Kinda hard for me to believe that he'd be found guilty of any of the felony charges, but I think there is a case to be made for the misdemeanor charge(s).

Let's see what the jury thinks.
I don't believe Kyle is being charged with that in this trial. I could be wrong, but curfew was never in any list of state charges I have seen.

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Re: Yes, Kyle Rittenhouse Acted in Self-Defense
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2021, 06:45:05 PM »
I don't believe Kyle is being charged with that in this trial. I could be wrong, but curfew was never in any list of state charges I have seen.

I don't make this stuff up, Mr Mannn. The article is dated 4 days ago, so it's relatively new.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/explainer-charges-kyle-rittenhouse-face-80917080
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Re: Yes, Kyle Rittenhouse Acted in Self-Defense
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2021, 08:51:15 PM »
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Yes, Kyle Rittenhouse Acted in Self-Defense

https://jimtreacher.substack.com/p/yes-kyle-rittenhouse-acted-in-self

...I’m sorry those guys are dead, but they shouldn’t have chased down a heavily armed man they had just threatened to kill. If you don’t like it, send your complaints to the Darwin Awards


I'm not sorry in the slightest these leftist scumbags each received the natural consequences of their actions.

Perhaps Jim Treacher is just a better man than I am because he can be sorry for the loss of a felon in posession of a firearm, a pedophile and a wife beater from the ranks of society, all killed while attempting to add homocide to their individual rap sheets.

I don't care.
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