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Title: First day on the job, untrained worker sent to his death and no one gives a f--k
Post by: CactusCarlos on February 02, 2008, 04:48:25 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=367x7248

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First day on the job, untrained worker sent to his death and no one gives a f--k!
Posted by Omaha Steve on Sat Feb-02-08 02:49 PM


http://anti-union.blogspot.com/2008/01/blatant-racism-another-death-and-injury.html

FROM: NY1

Family members are mourning the loss of a man who died Wednesday during his first day on the job at a construction site in the Fort Greene section of Brooklyn. Police say 43-year-old construction worker Jose Palacios plummeted 13 floors to his death when a scaffolding collapsed on Clinton Avenue. Officials with the Department of Buildings say fast winds caused the scaffolding to give way.

(Fellow worker Ricardo) Uribe said it was Palacios' first day on the job.

Palacios leaves behind a wife and 17-year-old daughter in Mexico City. He left them behind once before when he came to the States seeking more opportunities. "He comes here for work, to give his family a better life. Just for that," nephew Octavio Solis. Now his family in the States, the niece and nephew he lived with in Astoria, Queens, have the grueling task of telling his family in Mexico."All his family is in Mexico. How are we talk to them?" said Solis. Palacios' mother's health is fragile, Solis says. "She's 74 years. She's old. She's sick with diabetes. She could die, too," said Solis.

The DOB had sent out an advisory Wednesday morning about the high winds, urging all builders, contractors, developers and property owners to secure their construction sites and buildings.

Another illegal alien Hispanic construction worker has died right here in Brooklyn, this time it was his very first day on the job. While my heart goes out to the families affected by this tragedy. I cannot help but wonder if this is possibly another sweatshop construction accident?

The workers allegedly were building or working off a 3 tier or suspended scaffold on the rooftop of a 13 story building to do stucco work, by OSHA regulations if the scaffold was being erected they should have been wearing an independent safety harness, the DOB warning about winds should have stopped that detail from taking place and the relative interviewed, who also worked on the site, did not speak a word of English. The New York Times has pointed out that the deceased was here illegally. Could this be yet another death caused by the underground construction industry in New York? Those companies that employ and abuse undocumented workers every day of the week. How bad is it to be a undocumented worker here in New York? It's real bad, it's a modern slavery and it's in every industry. From blatant racism to horrendously unsafe working conditions and without the proper equipment.

Let us focus once again on my term sweatshop construction, or what one could call the underground work force and the modern day slave like conditions in which undocumented immigrant workers must endure to maintain a job for unscrupulous contractors and the effect it has on it's competition, the state and the public.

FULL story at link.

Why anti-union.blogspot.com ?
This site is dedicated to Lawyer/PR man, Rick Berman, who works as a lobbyist for the corporate war against unions and the working class. His MO is to start websites who falsely claim to be factual and through truth, half truth and out right lies, misinform the public, unions are not his first campaign and I'm sure it will not be his last.
Heres an interview from 60 Minutes and a Full Story I wrote.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/05/60minutes/main2653020.shtml

http://unionreview.com/center-union-facts-anti-union-lobby-its-worst

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Title: Re: First day on the job, untrained worker sent to his death and no one gives a f--k
Post by: djones520 on February 02, 2008, 04:55:56 PM
These people don't give a damn about the man.  If anything, their happy he died, because it gives them another "item" for their ludicrous conspiracy theories.
Title: Re: First day on the job, untrained worker sent to his death and no one gives a f--k
Post by: franksolich on February 02, 2008, 04:57:05 PM
You know, I read the weekly Morbidity and Mortality Report; been reading it for years.

I read all the time about fatalities from accidents on the job.

However, I also read other sources, and one suspects there's more deaths at the workplace--hundreds of times more, thousands of times more--in that socialist paradise of the workers and peasants, China.

My God, a lot of people die in the Maoist Heaven-on-Earth, far out of proportion to their numbers (about three or four times the population of the United States).

Here, such things are an aberration; there, such things are so commonplace as to be hardly worth mention.
Title: Re: First day on the job, untrained worker sent to his death and no one gives a
Post by: Chris_ on February 02, 2008, 05:03:50 PM
"Non-Union construction workers are 500% more likely to die at work in NY."

I can't speak for New York, but if the union workers there are like some of the union workers here, the reason that non-union workers are 500% more likely to die is that they are 500% more likely to actually be working.

If I offend any union workers here I apologize. I agree that unions were originally formed for the right reasons and can be a good thing; however, around here it seems like most unions have been perverted into almost mafia-like organizations that just exist to get more for less.
Title: Re: First day on the job, untrained worker sent to his death and no one gives a f--k
Post by: FlaGator on February 02, 2008, 06:57:54 PM
How does it matter if he was trained or untrained as the head line boasts. Do scaffolds somehow know not to collapse when trained union workers are standing on them? Did the unions get that in a labor agreement with the scaffolding manufacturers or something?
Title: Re: First day on the job, untrained worker sent to his death and no one gives a f--k
Post by: DixieBelle on February 02, 2008, 07:46:47 PM
So high winds only attack scaffolds with non-union workers now??
Title: Re: First day on the job, untrained worker sent to his death and no one gives a
Post by: Uhhuh35 on February 02, 2008, 07:50:14 PM
You know, I read the weekly Morbidity and Mortality Report; been reading it for years.
My God, a lot of people die in the Maoist Heaven-on-Earth, far out of proportion to their numbers (about three or four times the population of the United States).

Frank I thought you were joking about the Morbidity and Mortality Report! I Googled it and bookmarked it for later.
It is tragic the man died but it seems to me the story is there to get sympathy for the illegal aliens.
Title: Re: First day on the job, untrained worker sent to his death and no one gives a f--k
Post by: Zeus on February 02, 2008, 08:01:15 PM
Obviously his death would be more bearable if'n the construction worker was Union or had at least 2 days on the job  :whatever:
Title: Re: First day on the job, untrained worker sent to his death and no one gives a f--k
Post by: Lord Undies on February 02, 2008, 08:20:58 PM
Slaves don't travel 2000 miles and break the law to work the plantation.  The analogy is absurd.
Title: Re: First day on the job, untrained worker sent to his death and no one gives a f--k
Post by: Chris_ on February 02, 2008, 10:38:38 PM
20% of all workplace fatalities are in the construction industry.  It is one of the most dangerous in the country.

http://www.lni.wa.gov/Safety/Research/FACE/files/trends.pdf