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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Karin on October 13, 2019, 07:29:08 PM
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212579329 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212579329)
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 03:45 PM
ansible (755 posts)
Unprecedented Blackouts And $6 Gasoline: California's Energy Crisis
Millions of Californians may have just suffered an unprecedented, induced blackout by the state's largest (and bankrupt) utility, PG&E, just so it isn't blamed for starting even more fires causing it to go even more bankrupt... but at least the price of gas is soaring.
After which stats on gas prices and other misery.
Response to ansible (Original post)
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:02 PM
rockfordfile (3,563 posts)
2. Buy a electric car
Response to rockfordfile (Reply #2)
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:17 PM
Ptah (29,798 posts)
3. How would you charge it if there is no electricity?
:lmao:
Numbskulls.
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Response to rockfordfile (Reply #2)
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:17 PM
Ptah (29,798 posts)
3. How would you charge it if there is no electricity?
Buy a generator that runs on the $6.00 a gallon gasoline. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
I read an article that those who instaled solar panels are without power as wel,l as the cells put the energy into the grid. They didn't install batteries to store the power they produced.
They need to invite AOC out to solve the problem for them :-) :-) :lmao: :lmao: :rotf: :rotf: :-) :-) :loser:
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CA -- perfect storm of stupidity and circumstances. The OPPOSITE of the sports definition of "luck."
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Buy a generator that runs on the $6.00 a gallon gasoline. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
I read an article that those who instaled solar panels are without power as wel,l as the cells put the energy into the grid. They didn't install batteries to store the power they produced.
They need to invite AOC out to solve the problem for them :-) :-) :lmao: :lmao: :rotf: :rotf: :-) :-) :loser:
If you still can locate that article, I'd appreciate the link. I thought the whole point of solar was to cover your own usage and being connected to the grid was to sell back the excess or use theirs on a cloudy day. That's a special kind of stupid if there's no battery storage
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Buy a generator that runs on the $6.00 a gallon gasoline. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
I read an article that those who instaled solar panels are without power as wel,l as the cells put the energy into the grid. They didn't install batteries to store the power they produced.
They need to invite AOC out to solve the problem for them :-) :-) :lmao: :lmao: :rotf: :rotf: :-) :-) :loser:
What good is the solar power if you do not have storage capacity to use when the sun is not out? That is very odd.
BTW AOC would suggest buying a power strip and plugging it into itself. :-)
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Sun Oct 13, 2019, 03:45 PM
ansible (755 posts)
Unprecedented Blackouts And $6 Gasoline: California's Energy Crisis
Millions of Californians may have just suffered an unprecedented, induced blackout by the state's largest (and bankrupt) utility, PG&E 1., just so it isn't blamed for starting even more fires 2. causing it to go even more bankrupt... but at least the price of gas is soaring 3..
1. PG&E and EBMUD (and SMUD?) followed the rule imposed by the state PUC. The same rule SoCal Edison, LAL&P, EBMUD, and SMUD all have to follow. And unlike DU-Moron ansible, I know what those acronyms stand for without using Google.
2. California and Montana are unique among US states in requiring electric utilities to pay for all the costs of fires that might have been sparked by their equipment. The burden of proof is low, it includes fires started by equipment shot up by drunken morons or damaged by saboteurs, it includes damages exacerbated by courts restricting PG&E tree trimming and cutting and by forest and grassland mismanaged by the state.
3. This past Saturday I got premium gas at Costco for ~$4.19 a gallon. Costco is a low-price seller, but that's just 40 cents a gallon higher than I paid a couple of weeks ago for mid-grade at a local station that is pretty typical of the prices at stations in my neighborhood.
DU-grade Progs need PG&E to be the bogeyman in this because reality points to their beloved government and enviros as culprits.
* Fall has been fire season in CA longer than I've been alive (and I have faint memories of the Kennedy-Nixon debates). This was true long before PG&E because of the weather patterns in parts of CA - high winds, low humidity, and lightning - and dry fuel on the ground (dry grasses, leaves, needles, dead brush and trees).
* Enviros have gotten courts and regulatory agencies to severely restrict utilities ability to cut down and trim back trees near power lines. Government and enviros changed the environment in which PG&E operates - decades after power lines were built. The changed happened quite a few years ago, and the number of trees that would otherwise have been but down or seriously cut back has multiplied.
* Enviros have gotten the State of California to change how it manages its lands. The fuel of the sort I listed above is no longer cleared out. Further, enviros have gotten courts and regulatory agencies to severely restrict property owners' rights to clear fuel off their lands.
* Government and enviros have driven many lumber companies out of California, companies that cleared fuel out of the forests they managed as part of their normal operations.
Notice that while DUpipo are diligently bogeymanizing PG&E, they have no alternative solution. PG&E supplies power to 2/3-3/4 of California. DUpipo want to kill PG&E, but suggest no alternatives. The Prog-natural default is state take-over, but if they think the State of California will do as well or better than PG&E, they need to drive California highways a lot, long enough for the bumping and jarring and (not good) vibrations to get through their thick skulls what state maintenance accomplishes.
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What good is the solar power if you do not have storage capacity to use when the sun is not out? That is very odd.
BTW AOC would suggest buying a power strip and plugging it into itself. :-)
Power strips probably frighten AoC just like garbage disposals do.
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If you still can locate that article, I'd appreciate the link. I thought the whole point of solar was to cover your own usage and being connected to the grid was to sell back the excess or use theirs on a cloudy day. That's a special kind of stupid if there's no battery storage
The article was on Drudge a few days ago. It is gone now.
Maybe they can cut down the trees and burn them in boilers to run the turbines to make electric. then there will be no more forests to burn.
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Newsome has this covered. He is making taxpayers pay for abortions for college students.
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If you still can locate that article, I'd appreciate the link. I thought the whole point of solar was to cover your own usage and being connected to the grid was to sell back the excess or use theirs on a cloudy day. That's a special kind of stupid if there's no battery storage
http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?98541-Calis-Green-Energy-Dreams-turn-into-its-Nightmare (http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?98541-Calis-Green-Energy-Dreams-turn-into-its-Nightmare)
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http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?98541-Calis-Green-Energy-Dreams-turn-into-its-Nightmare (http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?98541-Calis-Green-Energy-Dreams-turn-into-its-Nightmare)
Mucho grassyass and a hi5!
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rockfordfile (3,563 posts)
2. Buy a electric car
TESLA WARNS DRIVERS TO CHARGE CARS BEFORE CALIFORNIA BLACKOUT
"A utility company in your area announced they may turn off power in some areas of Northern California beginning October 9 as part of public safety power shutoffs, which may affect power to charging options," the notification for a Northern California Tesla driver read. "We recommend charging your Tesla to 100% today to ensure your drive remains uninterrupted. As always, your touchscreen will display live statuses of Superchargers in your area—simply tap on a desired Supercharger station to confirm its availability."
https://www.newsweek.com/tesla-warns-drivers-charge-cars-before-california-blackout-1464239 (https://www.newsweek.com/tesla-warns-drivers-charge-cars-before-california-blackout-1464239)
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Depending on their commute length and traffic, a Tesla might have been OK for a couple of days. Nissan Leafs, especially early ones, OTOH, are probably only good for a single day's round-trip commute, if that.
SUCKERS!!!
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maybe they should move to mexico or some other socialist utopia. :bird:
Wait till the utility company raises the rates to cover the loss in earnings for shutting off the lights. :-) :-) :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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Make no mistake: the California government is NOT making any errors. Their laws are proceeding PRECISELY as INTENDED, which is to condition the rubes to accept Brownouts as The New Normal, which MUST and WILL occur regularly once they phase out fossil and nuclear fuels. AS PLANNED.
It's actually amazing there aren't any more DUmmies who realize this. If Ban the GOP were there he'd be dancing all over the threads hi-fiving the blackouts and other idiotic Deep State proclamations.
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rockfordfile (3,563 posts)
2. Buy a electric car
Was this an Enviro-True-Believer being serious or a scarcastic call-out of Enviro-True-Believer stupidity?