The Right’s Made-up ‘Constitution’

[Freeper]

MrScorpio (56,055 posts)

The Right’s Made-up ‘Constitution’


 
July 6, 2013

For Tea Partiers and libertarians, it is an article of faith that the Constitution tightly constrained the federal government and gave broad powers to the states. But that is bogus history — mere propaganda — and suggests that the Right’s rank-and-file has never read or understood the document, says historian Jada Thacker.

By Jada Thacker

The Cato Institute’s Handbook for Policy Makers says, “The American system was established to provide limited government.” The American Enterprise Institute states its purpose to “defend the principles” of “limited government.” The Heritage Foundation claims its mission is to promote “principles of … limited government.” A multitude of Tea Party associations follow suit.

At first glance the concept of “limited government” seems like a no-brainer. Everybody believes the power of government should be limited somehow. All those who think totalitarianism is a good idea raise your hand. But there is one problem with the ultra-conservatives’ “limited government” program: it is wrong. It is not just a little bit wrong, but demonstrably false.

The Constitution was never intended to “provide limited government,” and furthermore it did not do so. The U.S. government possessed the same constitutional power at the moment of its inception as it did yesterday afternoon.

This is not a matter of opinion, but of literacy. If we want to discover the truth about the scope of power granted to federal government by the Constitution, all we have to do is read what it says.

The Constitution’s grant of essentially unlimited power springs forth in its opening phrases: “We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

http://consortiumnews.com/2013/07/06/the-rights-made-up-constitution/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023190341

This is rich, the left accusing us of making up things about the Constitution. These are people who tell us the right to murder the unborn shall not be infringed, yet doesn't give us the right to own a gun.

These are the people who think promote the general welfare means that everything should be given for free. If you look closely it says provide for the common defense then it says promote the general welfare. Words have meanings despite the attempt to Orwellionize our language. Promote means to allow and not interfere with, provide means to give to. This notion that our founders wanted to take from the producers and give to the moochers is insane. They wanted a free society where each of us could take responsibility for ourselves and make better lives for ourselves with no interference from the government.

RC (22,137 posts)
8. That "promote the general Welfare" part covers Single Payer, Universal Health Care.

It is Constitutional. The general health of a nation does affect the vigor of the common defence, also. General good health of the population also contributes to the insurance of domestic Tranquility.

 

[JohnnyReb]

The Constitution was never intended to “provide limited government,” and furthermore it did not do so. The U.S. government possessed the same constitutional power at the moment of its inception as it did yesterday afternoon.

Yesterday afternoon must have been sometime around Apiril 1865.........damn I over slept again.

[Bad Dog]

Even O'bummer complains the Constitution has too many "negative rights" (for the government).

[Carl]

The all powerful government you useless parasites think will cater to you will instead bury you in a ditch.
If you are lucky they will kill you first though.

[Big Dog]

Mrs. Corpio
But that is bogus history — mere propaganda — and suggests that the Right’s rank-and-file has never read or understood the document, says historian Jada Thacker.

"Historian" is a meaningless word. It confers no authority, nor does it imply any special expertise.

The DUmp's two examples of "historians" prove the point:
1. PhDD, who is incapable of critical thought.
2. gNads, who needs no introduction and who defies explanation.

Historian Jada Thacker may spend her days in a college Office of Professional Begging, or post scanner traffic on a Pennysaver, for all we know.

[Freeper]

"Historian" is a meaningless word. It confers no authority, nor does it imply any special expertise.

The DUmp's two examples of "historians" prove the point:
1. PhDD, who is incapable of critical thought.
2. gNads, who needs no introduction and who defies explanation.

Historian Jada Thacker may spend her days in a college Office of Professional Begging, or post scanner traffic on a Pennysaver, for all we know.

Historian is like Scientist, as long as you agree with the premise they promote then they are correct, and yes we do the same thing, but we tend to listen to all the information and decide who is right. We don't just jump on a bandwagon because some scientist or historian has said so.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

A national birth rate of 35 live births / 1000 would be best for the economy and thus the general welfare.

Since we're currently running 21 live births / 1000 obviously we need to legislate against anything that inhibits pregnancy or its coming to full term.

[jukin]

They are being even more crazy than normal and the DUches were stocked up for years.

Any bets this 'historian' thinks that 1+1=POTATO?

Single payer by definition is slavery and theft.

[Skul]

Who was it that said something on the order of.."What we do, accuse the others of doing"?
I'm thinking Mousey Dung or Linen.

[Splashdown]

AMENDMENT X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

I'm just an English teacher, but this seems pretty straightforward in terms of limited government.

[obumazombie]

Even O'bummer complains the Constitution has too many "negative rights" (for the government).

His billing as a constitutional scholar has slipped precipitously.

[FlaGator]

Hahaha!!! Somebody making up things about the Constitution so they can accuse others of making up things about the Constitution. DU pretzel logic at its finest!

[txradioguy]

MrScorpio (56,055 posts)

The Right’s Made-up ‘Constitution’

Made up Dorkio?  Really?  

How many made up "rights" have your Libtard brethren written into the Constitution?  Abortion "rights" Gay "rights"  Free healthcare "rights"?  Misuse of the Commerce clause, abuse of the 4th Amendment...the second amendment and a complete and total misinterpretation and implementation of the First Amendment where religion is concerned.

And you have the f**king nerve to claim Conservatives have a view of the Constitution that's "made up"?

I honest to God wish you'd man up and sign up over here so I could take your ass to school on something you were obviously asleep on when it was taught.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Single-parent households are bad for the general welfare.

DECREED -- All men must marry the women they impregnate.

[USA4ME]

RC

That "promote the general Welfare" part covers Single Payer, Universal Health Care. It is Constitutional.

Then why didn't the Founding Fathers institute it immediately?

Why was it not even an issue for about 200 years?

Yeah, I know. Explaining that away is tough. Try anyway.

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[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Then why didn't the Founding Fathers institute it immediately?

Why was it not even an issue for about 200 years?

Yeah, I know. Explaining that away is tough. Try anyway.

Because the same founders who couldn't anticipate advances in weapon technology and communications were nonetheless, able to foresee a day when a massive technocratic bureaucracy that would govern everything from the availability of hip-replacement surgery to the size of your soda with peerless execution and they knew this was the free society they had long dreamed of.

[USA4ME]

Because the same founders who couldn't anticipate advances in weapon technology and communications were nonetheless, able to foresee a day when a massive technocratic bureaucracy that would govern everything from the availability of hip-replacement surgery to the size of your soda with peerless execution and they knew this was the free society they had long dreamed of.

Your answer required thought. Liberals don't have that going for them.

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[I_B_Perky]

RC (22,137 posts)
8. That "promote the general Welfare" part covers Single Payer, Universal Health Care.

It is Constitutional. The general health of a nation does affect the vigor of the common defence, also. General good health of the population also contributes to the insurance of domestic Tranquility.

Horse shit dummie. Complete and utter horse shit. Promote the general welfare, at the time, meant enforcing equality under the law... from the richest landowner to the poor sot passed out in the street. Where most of these people came from laws were not equally enforced.

The general welfare clause meant equal opportunity. It did not mean taking from someone and giving to someone else under threat of force. It also meant equality under the tax code.

Answer me this dummie... if you can... why should I, a person who sacrificed and worked his ass off to make it, should have my hard earned money taken away and given to a loser like you? Let me explain it another way dummie... I need some wood at the moment. I don't have the money to purchase said wood right now. I have a real need for that wood. So I guess it is OK if I show up at your house and start taking the wood from your house cause I have a need? Is it OK dummie? Well is it? Give me your address and I will be over with my truck cause daggone it I need that wood!!!

**** you dummie and the welfare bitch that spawned you!!!! You are a parasite on the nation. Move to a communist country where there is the free healthcare you seek.

[diesel driver]

Horse shit dummie. Complete and utter horse shit. Promote the general welfare, at the time, meant enforcing equality under the law... from the richest landowner to the poor sot passed out in the street. Where most of these people came from laws were not equally enforced.

The general welfare clause meant equal opportunity. It did not mean taking from someone and giving to someone else under threat of force. It also meant equality under the tax code.

Answer me this dummie... if you can... why should I, a person who sacrificed and worked his ass off to make it, should have my hard earned money taken away and given to a loser like you? Let me explain it another way dummie... I need some wood at the moment. I don't have the money to purchase said wood right now. I have a real need for that wood. So I guess it is OK if I show up at your house and start taking the wood from your house cause I have a need? Is it OK dummie? Well is it? Give me your address and I will be over with my truck cause daggone it I need that wood!!!

**** you dummie and the welfare bitch that spawned you!!!! You are a parasite on the nation. Move to a communist country where there is the free healthcare you seek.

Damn, Perky.  You're rolling!  ^5, buddy!

And all totally true.  Here's another good example. 

I live in a trailer, you live in a 5,000 sf house.  I have 3 acres, you have 300.  I have a rowboat, you have a yacht.

I deserve those things you have, therefore, the government should take those things away from you and give them to me, AND, you should have to pay for me to keep them as well!

Why?

According to the DUmbasses and this DUmbass so-called hystoricalian, it's in the Constitution!

Complete, total, and utter 

I've tried to see things from the liberal POV, but I couldn't get my head up my ass.

[hillneck]

RC (22,137 posts)
8. That "promote the general Welfare" part covers Single Payer, Universal Health Care.

That's because you're a idiot.  Back to why we call you leeches on society for good reason.    

[DefiantSix]

The all powerful government you useless parasites think will cater to you will instead bury you in a ditch.
If you are lucky they will kill you first though.

There are days I hope their luck craps out.  Does that make me evil? 

[JohnnyReb]

That's because you're a idiot.  Back to why we call you leeches on society for good reason.    

Back when The Constitution was written that would have been about the highlight of your medical care.....and Obama is taking us back to that level as fast as he can.

[Wineslob]

WTF guys? Don't you know it's a "Living Document"?

 

[JohnnyReb]

WTF guys? Don't you know it's a "Living Document"?

 

Been on life support for the last few years though.

[DefiantSix]

Been on life support for the last few years though.

It happens when you try to read progressive dogma into the document.