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Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« on: January 17, 2013, 05:56:03 PM »
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Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?


 
There shouldn't be any rational need to have more than 7 bullets loaded in your gun at any one time.

What if you're facing multiple bad guys? You can't expect people to defend against 3-4 bad guys with just 7 bullets! - this seems to be the primary argument from gun nuts.

What if, indeed.

What if you're facing an onslaught of meth addicts trying to break into your house? What if you have to face an entire street gang? What if civilization collapses, and you have to take on a roving band of marauders? What if the zombie apocalypse happens, and you're faced with a yard full of walkers?

What if?

The problem is that you can always come up with a reason to rationalize whatever you want. But how often are people going to be faced with situations that require more than 7 bullets?

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The DUmmies seem to think that criminals all across the state of NY spent all day yesterday pulling those 3 rounds out of their 10 round magazines.  :mental:

Do they seriously think that someone who will break the law by using a gun in an unlawful manner is going to only load 7 rounds at a time?


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1. Because if a 30 round mag

"Saves even one life it's worth it." Isn't that usually your mantra?

DUmmies hate it when their own words are used against them.

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6. Oh lookee here

I got myself a brand new gun nut! Don't worry, you have plenty of company here on DU. Enjoy your stay.

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38. 30 round mags don't save lives, they take them.

At least they'll take far, far more lives than they could ever hope to save. Clear enough for ya?

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Just because you fear guns is not a good enough reason to limit them to what you think they should have. When it comes down to it the only people you have to worry about with 30 rounds in a magazine are not going to obey the seven rule anyway.

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2. Can we include the police in this discussion?

Why do they need high capacity magazines?

Does it take more than 7 bullets a clip to subdue a suspect?

I understand the law in NY does limit the police to only 7 rounds too.

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Jeff In Milwaukee (11,959 posts)
4. It does if the suspect has a 30-round clip (nt)

Now that there is a seven round max you won't have to worry about that will you?  :whatever:

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NCTraveler (1,037 posts)
7. I think that would be a reasonable limitation.

And should be agreed upon by the majority.

"There shouldn't be any rational need to have more than 7 bullets loaded in your gun at any one time."


That sentence is what should make it easy. They could have an extra 7 round back up clip.

Oh how generous of you allowing them to have a second seven round "clip", and here I thought you guys were going to be totally unreasonable. How long before we hear you don't need more than one magazine?  :mental:

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20. How about a hypothetical?

You're sitting in a back room or wherever, reading or surfing the web at night. Your family is asleep upstairs. Suddenly you hear the door kicked in and angry voices. Strangers (not the cops) are breaking into your home. Or, let's throw out the plural "voices" all together. All you know is a person or persons unknown are coming in forcefully.

Beside you leaning against the wall is a rifle with seven round mag and an identical one with thirty.

Which one would you pick up? Why?

I wouldn't grab either, I would pick up a stool and throw it at the intruder.  :-)

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41. Che Guevara's M1 Carbine had 15-round magazines

But I guess you would write that off as "It was necessary" or some other lame rationalization.

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45. He was shooting people for a good cause. nt

The DUmmy didn't use the sarcasm thingy so I dunno if he is series or not.

Ladies and gentle smurfs what we see happening is our government slowly chipping away at the second amendment. For now they will say 7 bullets, then after the next "work place violence incident" it will go down to 5 then to 3 then to 1. I imagine they will limit the amount of magazines next. Meanwhile they will swoop in and make it so hard to buy a single gun that there will be few gun owners then when we are accustomed to not having guns they will be able to easily make that final move and ban all guns.

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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2013, 06:04:48 PM »
In case you miss a lot while leading a target.
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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2013, 06:09:23 PM »
You load ten so you can fire both five-round strings of the National Match Course rapid fire without fiddling around with ammunition.
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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2013, 06:30:42 PM »
What reason do you have to limit the rights of people who pose no threat to you?
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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2013, 06:31:33 PM »
So New York forgot to add the exemption for police, but the police union also wants an exemption for retirees.  Um, why should police retiree's lives be any more valuable than other private citizens.


Will Secret Service be restricted to 7 rounds when Obama visits New York?  Will the private security for UN ambassadors be limited to 7 rounds?
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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2013, 06:32:07 PM »
Newsflash, numbnuts--my perfectly legal .45 caliber pistol is now ILLEGAL in the state of New York.

Why, you ask?  Simple.  The magazine holds eight rounds.

Thank God I live in a state that has a little common sense left (read: NOT NY.)
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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2013, 06:32:59 PM »
Quote from: WinOne4TheGipper on January 17, 2013, 06:30:42 PM
What reason do you have to limit the rights of people who pose no threat to you?

See, now you're just using facts and logic on them.  No fair.
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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2013, 06:44:49 PM »
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Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?

Nadin "CQB" and then get back to me, you fat stupid hairy homo.
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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2013, 06:54:25 PM »
The first one is a head shot, the other 6 are to make sure.  Holy crap are they freaking stupid.  I mean you are already going to have a mess to clean up.  May as well make sure your gun is firing correctly on a barely dead target.
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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2013, 06:55:45 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on January 17, 2013, 06:44:49 PM
Nadin "CQB" and then get back to me, you fat stupid hairy homo.


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Chiquita sells bananas, chimps like bananas so it's Bush's fault, right?

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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2013, 06:56:43 PM »
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Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?

How many rabid, diseased, crazed, and dangerous-to-society individuals are members of DU?

Now imagine these individuals having a meet-up somewhere. They are doing their drugs. They are feeding off of each others craziness. Their faux courage surges along with their constant rage and hatred. As the frenzied pinnacle of lunacy is reached a normal, decent person happens to stumble into the gathering and says God bless you, Merry Christmas, I love America, or any similar phrase. When the attack starts does he wish he has 7 bullets or more than 7 bullets?
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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2013, 07:22:56 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on January 17, 2013, 06:55:45 PM

The Nadin machine turned this up.
Chiquita sells bananas, chimps like bananas so it's Bush's fault, right?

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You may be onto something there.  Or on something.  I'm not sure which.

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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2013, 07:23:36 PM »
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Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?

 :banghead: Bad guys never come at you more than one at a time.

 :banghead: Without practice, reloading in CQB usually causes one to lose sight of the remaining targets, lose sight, lose the fight.

 :banghead: If I have to use 7 out of 17 rounds in my Glock to neutralize the threat, I've demonstrated that I have used restraint in dealing with that threat.  Are you DUmmies that are going to sit on my jury view it as restraint when I use all 7 of 7 rounds?  I think we all know the answer too that!

 :banghead:  How many magazines will you be restricted to carrying?

 :banghead: Arguing with a DUmmy is well, just as useful as banging my head on the wall.

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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2013, 07:36:25 PM »
Hell, even my 12 guage holds more than 7 rounds.
5 00 buck, 3 rifled slugs. 
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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2013, 07:41:08 PM »
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Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?

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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2013, 07:43:54 PM »
You don't have to explain a "need" before exercising a right.

That's why it's called a right.
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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2013, 08:03:00 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on January 17, 2013, 07:22:56 PM
You may be onto something there.  Or on something.  I'm not sure which.

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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2013, 08:10:19 PM »
My 686 only has 7 rounds in it.
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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2013, 08:15:36 PM »
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45. He was shooting people for a good cause. nt
That comment, right there, says why.
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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2013, 10:30:36 PM »
Well lets ask the people that were defending their homes and businesses after the Rodney King riots or after  A hurricane has blown down most of the city they live in. Or how about lets ask all the dead Mexicans that have dies from all the drug violence in a country that has harsher gun laws then we do if they would have liked to have had a chance to own a gun with a high capacity magazine.
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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2013, 10:43:11 PM »
Lucas McCain knows...

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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2013, 10:55:27 PM »
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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2013, 11:35:07 PM »
Because there are more than seven hoodrats who look like the son the jug-eared muslim never had.
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Re: Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2013, 01:49:36 AM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on January 17, 2013, 11:35:07 PM
Because there are more than seven hoodrats who look like the son the jug-eared muslim never had.
I had considered that. Huggybooboo has the number one off. Should be eight.
How ever. Obambi's sons rarely run in numbers that high.
2's, 3's, and 4's, seem to be more consistent.
Therefore, being a responsible conservative, and wishing to blindly follow the Grate Won, I propose this..
If two come through the door, I will redistribute my wealth to four each.
If four come through the door, I will evenly distribute to two, each.
Three could be a problem. Therefore, each gets two.
If one asks "please, sir, may I have another", I will give him/her/it one. Maybe two, if I feel generous.
Now everything is right with the world, and I feel good about myself.
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