Author Topic: remembering the late red round one (Read 5924 times)

franksolich · « **on:** July 11, 2010, 08:32:03 AM »

This past week marked the fifth anniversary of the passing of the late red round one, and one looked with eager anticipation for a campfire on Skins's island commemorating the event.

One looked in vain.

On previous anniversaries, at least one, but usually two, campfires blazed big and long as the primitives reminisced about the late red round one.

On past anniversaries, it provided a reunion of the acolytes of the late red round one, the Andyites, many of whom no longer hang around Skins's island, or if they do, only rarely.

It was a great opportunity to find out what was up with all of them, the Andyites; what was new, how their lives had been going, what they were doing, where they were, how they were doing.

But this year, the curiosity remains unsated, as there was nothing to commemorate the late red round one.

(The late red round one was mentioned in one campfire last week, but in a single isolated comment, and lumped with a couple of other primitives of yore.)

Because the primitives on Skins's island were so remiss, it's up to us to remember the late red round one.

If anyone has any, how about sharing memories of the late red round one?

franksolich · « **Reply #1 on:** July 11, 2010, 09:15:20 PM »

Well, no one remembered the late red round one.

So "unsticky" this goes.....

Ballygrl · « **Reply #2 on:** July 11, 2010, 09:18:05 PM »

Who is he Frank?

franksolich · « **Reply #3 on:** July 11, 2010, 09:19:11 PM »

Quote from: Ballygrl on July 11, 2010, 09:18:05 PM

Who is he Frank?

One of the three martyrs of Skins's island.

You obviously weren't around five years ago, madam.

It's a long story.

And like, really complicated.

Ballygrl · « **Reply #4 on:** July 11, 2010, 09:23:47 PM »

I've only been reading at DU for a few years, and hardly paid attention to the names of the posters.

thundley4 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 11, 2010, 09:30:02 PM »

Didn't the DUmmies have a big "remembrance thread" for Andy last year? That whole episode is probably something Beth would rather forget, or at least have her involvement forgotten.

franksolich · « **Reply #6 on:** July 11, 2010, 09:38:07 PM »

Quote from: thundley4 on July 11, 2010, 09:30:02 PM

Didn't the DUmmies have a big "remembrance thread" for Andy last year? That whole episode is probably something Beth would rather forget, or at least have her involvement forgotten.

The primitives had one in 2005, in 2006, in 2007, in 2008, and 2009, sometimes more than one.

But the primitives forgot all about the late red round one this year, apparently.

As mentioned before, some of us always looked forward to those campfires, because long-ago primitives went to them, and we could catch up with what was new with them.

franksolich · « **Reply #7 on:** July 11, 2010, 09:39:00 PM »

Quote from: Ballygrl on July 11, 2010, 09:23:47 PM

I've only been reading at DU for a few years, and hardly paid attention to the names of the posters.

Well, to make a long story short, a complicated story simple, franksolich killed Andy Stephenson.

franksolich · « **Reply #8 on:** July 11, 2010, 09:41:19 PM »

At least that's what the primitives say.

chitownchica · « **Reply #9 on:** July 11, 2010, 11:40:01 PM »

Bally,
I wasn't around then, but I have read about it here. This guy Andy worked with some woman who was just X dollars away from proving election fraud in either the Gore/Bush or Kerry/Bush races. As I recall, this woman was running a scam, or at least was accused of it. Andy then got sick, and due to having some really bad illness, the DUmp raised 50k to send him to Johns Hopkins. Then the drunkard Pitt heard that it might be a scam, and was irate because he had put his faultless reputation on the line to get the word out about the fundraiser. This caused many DUers to wonder if it was all a ruse. Not sure how the folks at CC or CU were involved, but I think they questioned the voter fraud scam that was perpetrated on the dummies, and questioned whether this Andy illness was indeed real. That caused fire and brimstone to rain from the skies of dummieland onto some of our esteemed colleagues here. I may have some of the facts wrong, but I think it's pretty close.

crockspot · « **Reply #10 on:** July 12, 2010, 12:19:18 AM »

I remember the day we killed the late red round one, with our bare hands. It was a great achievement for the VRWC, and kept the Chimperor in office for a full 8 years.

delilahmused · « **Reply #11 on:** July 12, 2010, 02:25:47 AM »

Well I remember how Will almost ruined the fund raising for Andy's lifesaving surgery. He was the healthiest person with pancreatic cancer the world has ever seen. Well enough to carry on prancing across the country, wining and dining hither and yon on his way to Johns Hopkins. And he survived the surgery, making a miraculous recovery...after a mere few days, recuperating at Miss Waverly's with the dust bunnies she has hiding under the bed. And after all that, all the snafus, the heroic efforts of Beth, the stupidest person on the internet, he was done in by a tiny dog named Ballot. Poor Andy. One wonders how Termite and Ballot are doing.

Cindie

PatriotGame · « **Reply #12 on:** July 12, 2010, 03:20:25 AM »

Quote from: franksolich on July 11, 2010, 09:19:11 PM

One of the three martyrs of Skins's island.

You obviously weren't around five years ago, madam.

It's a long story.

And like, really complicated.

Oh gosh those were good times. Scamdy.com, in-fighting, back-biting, felonious donation collections that funded a private vacation, and the #1 most successful VRWC black-op that manipulated a person's private health care in history. Andy tried to scam his fellow DUmp monkeys by using his hate for President Bush to make what should have been a private health issue into a vehicle for free money.
He killed himself and was VERY publicly exposed by doing so.

franksolich · « **Reply #13 on:** July 12, 2010, 07:51:42 AM »

Quote from: chitownchica on July 11, 2010, 11:40:01 PM

.....Andy then got sick, and due to having some really bad illness, the DUmp raised 50k to send him to Johns Hopkins. Then the drunkard Pitt heard that it might be a scam, and was irate because he had put his faultless reputation on the line to get the word out about the fundraiser. This caused many DUers to wonder if it was all a ruse. Not sure how the folks at CC or CU were involved, but I think they questioned the voter fraud scam that was perpetrated on the dummies, and questioned whether this Andy illness was indeed real. That caused fire and brimstone to rain from the skies of dummieland onto some of our esteemed colleagues here. I may have some of the facts wrong, but I think it's pretty close.

That's reasonably close.

Where we were fooled was that pancreatic cancer is a really wasting disease, but for some reason the red round one remained healthy-looking and robust-looking clear up until the last three weeks of his life.

The late red round one did in fact have pancreatic cancer, although that was only the secondary cause of his death.

But how the late red round one managed to pull that off, looking hale and hearty until the end, stumps one.

However, the issue was not, really, the red round one, but Doug's stupid ex-wife, who was in charge of the fund-raiser to get the red round one in for a special operation at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore.

Doug's stupid ex-wife did some pretty stupid things, running that fund-raiser.

Mine is a minority opinion, but I don't think Doug's stupid ex-wife raised even a tenth or a twentieth of the $50,000 goal, and much of that had to come from members of freerepublic and conservativeunderground, not from Skins's island (conservativecave did not then exist).

It was during the Scamdal that franksolich and Doug's stupid ex-wife "bonded," a match made in Heaven for the internet.

Ralph Wiggum · « **Reply #14 on:** July 12, 2010, 08:27:19 AM »

Quote from: crockspot on July 12, 2010, 12:19:18 AM

I remember the day we killed the late red round one, with our bare hands. It was a great achievement for the VRWC, and kept the Chimperor in office for a full 8 years.

Ballygrl · « **Reply #15 on:** July 12, 2010, 08:53:43 AM »

Quote from: chitownchica on July 11, 2010, 11:40:01 PM

Bally,
I wasn't around then, but I have read about it here. This guy Andy worked with some woman who was just X dollars away from proving election fraud in either the Gore/Bush or Kerry/Bush races. As I recall, this woman was running a scam, or at least was accused of it. Andy then got sick, and due to having some really bad illness, the DUmp raised 50k to send him to Johns Hopkins. Then the drunkard Pitt heard that it might be a scam, and was irate because he had put his faultless reputation on the line to get the word out about the fundraiser. This caused many DUers to wonder if it was all a ruse. Not sure how the folks at CC or CU were involved, but I think they questioned the voter fraud scam that was perpetrated on the dummies, and questioned whether this Andy illness was indeed real. That caused fire and brimstone to rain from the skies of dummieland onto some of our esteemed colleagues here. I may have some of the facts wrong, but I think it's pretty close.

I googled the story last night and it took me to Free Republic, a thread there had a post of Will Pitt blaming conservatives, but it was noted in that thread afterward that Will is the 1 who brought up the issue 1st questioning the validity of the story.

Ballygrl · « **Reply #16 on:** July 12, 2010, 09:05:20 AM »

I'm not going dwell on this because I personally don't want to get involved in the personal lives of people, but I'm almost positive and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Johns Hopkins was 1 of those medical facilities where they pay for airfare and either provide accommodations or have them available at a discounted rate, also and maybe I'm wrong, but I thought that if a person couldn't pay they wouldn't be refused treatment there even if they're out of state residents? Johns Hopkins is 1 of the top facilities for pancreatic research and treatment, and they have many trials that have and still do go on, and when a trial or experimental treatment is given it's usually given free.

God Bless this man though, it's such a horrible disease.

DumbAss Tanker · « **Reply #17 on:** July 12, 2010, 09:52:53 AM »

Quote from: Ballygrl on July 12, 2010, 08:53:43 AM

I googled the story last night and it took me to Free Republic, a thread there had a post of Will Pitt blaming conservatives, but it was noted in that thread afterward that Will is the 1 who brought up the issue 1st questioning the validity of the story.

That's pretty much exactly what happened. While CU's posters among others were somewhat skeptical (After all, if it's on DU and about money it's presumptively a scam, and that includes $kammer's fund drives for the site), it was Pitt who called out Andy on DU itself as a scammer, putting the whole fundraising thing on the skids. Pitt then had a lapse of memory as well as honor (Really a chronic, lifelong problem on that one), and blamed the Eeeevil Conservatives for it, overlooking the minor factoid that they can't post on DU anyway.

Andy was a self-absorbed dumbshit, which means he was no worse than most of DU; it's unfortunate that he died, but his demise had a lot to do with a series of bad choices in both life and medical care. That's about the most positive way I can put it.

JohnnyReb · « **Reply #18 on:** July 12, 2010, 10:42:04 AM »

Will Pitt is to writing as Calpiggy is to poetry.

DEADLY

delilahmused · « **Reply #19 on:** July 12, 2010, 10:59:49 AM »

Quote from: franksolich on July 12, 2010, 07:51:42 AM

That's reasonably close.

Where we were fooled was that pancreatic cancer is a really wasting disease, but for some reason the red round one remained healthy-looking and robust-looking clear up until the last three weeks of his life.

The late red round one did in fact have pancreatic cancer, although that was only the secondary cause of his death.

But how the late red round one managed to pull that off, looking hale and hearty until the end, stumps one.

However, the issue was not, really, the red round one, but Doug's stupid ex-wife, who was in charge of the fund-raiser to get the red round one in for a special operation at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore.

Doug's stupid ex-wife did some pretty stupid things, running that fund-raiser.

Mine is a minority opinion, but I don't think Doug's stupid ex-wife raised even a tenth or a twentieth of the $50,000 goal, and much of that had to come from members of freerepublic and conservativeunderground, not from Skins's island (conservativecave did not then exist).

It was during the Scamdal that franksolich and Doug's stupid ex-wife "bonded," a match made in Heaven for the internet.

I'm not convinced he had pancreatic cancer. In Seattle he had just about every test you can have. I think he panicked before he had all the results and told DU he probably had cancer (as the doctor there put a shunt in, it's more likely he had pancreatitis). Beth went off the deep end with her need to add meaning to her otherwise anonymous, unsatisfying existence. Andy saw $ signs and a scam was born. Remember, all monies went directly to Andy and the only way Bethie knew what amount was sent was if they emailed her.

The only thing we know for sure is he had a CT scan or some such at JH that showed a small lesion on his lungs, much like one would have after a really bad cold or bronchitis. One does not recover from pancreatic cancer as quickly as he did. I still think Amity was on the right track...she thought he had his stomach stapled or some such cosmetic thing. I researched the medical end of things until I was blue in the face. I think after the procedure, whatever it was (one could tell from the pic of him in the hospital he was in kind of a recovery room for day surgery) he didn't follow the docs instructions and got an infection. One reaps what one sows.

Cindie

soleil · « **Reply #20 on:** July 12, 2010, 11:34:32 AM »

I never really knew the details of all of this. I was fairly new to DU at that time, and I caught bits and pieces here and there. I knew there were talks of a scam, but in the end he died. I was never sure of what he died from. I always assumed it was his sickness that the money was being raised for.

Who is Doug? I know who y'all are referring to when you say his ex-wife, but I don't know who he is.

And also if I can ask this, how on earth could you, Frank, have been blamed for any of this? And how did FR and DU get intermingled in all of this?

crockspot · « **Reply #21 on:** July 12, 2010, 12:40:03 PM »

Quote from: soleil on July 12, 2010, 11:34:32 AM

I never really knew the details of all of this. I was fairly new to DU at that time, and I caught bits and pieces here and there. I knew there were talks of a scam, but in the end he died. I was never sure of what he died from. I always assumed it was his sickness that the money was being raised for.

Who is Doug? I know who y'all are referring to when you say his ex-wife, but I don't know who he is.

And also if I can ask this, how on earth could you, Frank, have been blamed for any of this? And how did FR and DU get intermingled in all of this?

Doug is both a low rent comedian, and the luckiest man on earth for having escaped the clutches of his ex wife. I believe that Frank was a DUer at the time, and helped run scamdy.com, which tracked all the postings related to... well.... scamdy...

franksolich · « **Reply #22 on:** July 12, 2010, 03:28:17 PM »

Quote from: soleil on July 12, 2010, 11:34:32 AM

Who is Doug? I know who y'all are referring to when you say his ex-wife, but I don't know who he is.

Doug's stupid ex-wife is EFerrari, but when she first hopped ashore Skins's island, she used the name "sfexpat2000."

She came ashore in November 2004, along with a whole slew of "vote fraud" activists.

In a newspaper story, she frankly admitted she had never known the late red round one in person; that it was an "internet relationship."

Doug's stupid ex-wife was named #03 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009, although not because of her role in the Scamdal (which had taken place some years earlier). She was the only top primitive whose description needed no links to anything she wrote in 2009, because most knew her as well as their own right hand, and so the following is perhaps of only little use to newcomers:

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,38456.0.html

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And also if I can ask this, how on earth could you, Frank, have been blamed for any of this?

God only knows.

thundley4 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 12, 2010, 03:44:38 PM »

Even DailyKos thought there was a scam going on.

franksolich · « **Reply #24 on:** July 12, 2010, 03:48:04 PM »

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Author Topic: remembering the late red round one (Read 5924 times)