http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3725315Contrary1 (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-03-08 08:23 PM
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Texas defies World Court, Bush on execution
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"HOUSTON - The planned execution this week of a man convicted in one of Houston's most brutal murder cases in a generation has become among the most contentious in the state that has the nation's busiest capital punishment system.
International attention has been focused on the execution of convicted killer Jose Medellin scheduled for Tuesday. The International Court of Justice, also known as the World Court, said the Mexican-born Medellin and some 50 other Mexicans on death row around the nation should have new hearings in U.S. courts to determine whether a 1963 treaty was violated during their arrests.
Medellin, now 33, is the first among the 50 who is set to die.
His attorneys contend Medellin was denied the protections of the Vienna Convention, which calls for people arrested to have access to their home country's consular officials. He has been in the United States since the age of 3..."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080803/ap_on_re_us/texas_e...
Possumpoint (333 posts) Sun Aug-03-08 08:26 PM
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1. I Agree With Texas
Screw Mexico. If the man is guilty, fry him.
Dangerous troll!
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anDB1 (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-03-08 08:31 PM
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5. International treaties ratified by Congress are the highest law of the land.
Higher even than The Constitution.
This is not a matter of what rights that monster deserves.
This is a matter of our obligations as a country on the world stage.
It's that sacred yet uneven "Rule of Law" DUmmie thing again, isn't it?
vitamin_D (4 posts) Sun Aug-03-08 08:28 PM
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2. Why is the shrub sticking his nose in this?
I wonder what the shrub would have done if it was one of his daughters that was brutally raped.
The President's nose is in it because your precious World Court ask him to put his nose in it. Idiot.
Rex (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-03-08 08:29 PM
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3. Well the US does NOT answer to any governing body outside our borders.
We think ourselves immune from any kind of court outside our own system. We think we can hold people regardless of any international laws. See Gitmo.
Gitmo is the result of international idiocy, not the answer to it.
IanDB1 (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-03-08 08:34 PM
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7. It does not matter what he deserves. We have obligations under international law.
If we do not fulfill our obligations, then nobody else needs to fulfill theirs toward us.
Remember that the next time you leave the country and wonder, "What if this medication I have a doctor's prescription for is still illegal in the country I'm visiting?"
So this Mexican trash is suppose to escape his sentence so you can smuggle dope into other countries?
robcon (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-03-08 09:06 PM
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10. Huh? What international Laws???
Texas is a sovereign state. The U.S. is a sovereign country. We have to live up to treaties we have signed, BUT NOT TO DIRECTION WE RECEIVE FROM INTERNATIONAL BODIES WHO HAVE NO JURISDICTION IN THIS CASE.
There is no harm in international agencies' having a problem with the death penalty in this case. Like other "friend of the court" pleas, we can choose to abide by their counsel, or ignore it. I think it is wise to ignore their counsel in this case.
Such thinking will not draw you a remark on DUmpass Island. You breath has been wasted.
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-03-08 08:36 PM
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8. Poor Jose, what a sweetheart....
"Medellin speaks, reads and writes English and gave a written confession.
"Don't feel sorry for me," he said on an anti-death penalty Web site where inmates seek pen pals. "I'm where I'm at because I made an adolescent choice."
Medellin, on death row for almost 14 years, was one of six teenagers arrested and charged with the gang rape and murders of Elizabeth Pena, 16, and Jennifer Ertman, 14. The two Houston girls, returning from a friend's house, took a shortcut home and stumbled on a group of teenagers drinking beer after initiating a new gang member.
Evidence showed the girls were gang raped for more than an hour, then were kicked, beaten and strangled. Their bodies were found four days later."
Those girls were someone's daughter, grandchild, sister, niece.
But **** 'em, anyway.
Poor Jose.
I remember when this happened, as I was living in Houston at the time.
These ****ers are sub-human and should have been destroyed years ago.
A pit bull bites a neighbor who has taunted it for years and is put down. All the "Progressives" shout, "Huzzah!".
But let these sorry mother****ers rape a couple of innocent teenage girls for an afternoon and then sadistically take their lives, and we are supposed to act all kindly toward them?
**** 'em.
For about an hour.
And then stomp their faces in and finish it off with a good beating.
Then strangle them.
Until they are dead, dead, dead.
Lawdy! I spoke too soon. TiT has a lucid moment.
